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mtg

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Now I'll try.
Bought.
Drive curiosity.
With this one.

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I also picked one of these up recently, it's purring along happily with my QYFQ + 4x some random 16gb Kingston fury rdimms. It's actually the best "behaved" motherboard I have currently, posts _super_ fast compared to all my other systems, though the W790 board I have is close. I wonder who the customer was?
 
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RolloZ170

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No, still F01 here. Seems relatively stable though?
relative ? i don't have issues.
F01 date, microcodes and SPS(PCH FW) are similar to BIOS F17 of MS33-AR0 which came one year earlier than the CPA.
 
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Has anyone tried using a W790 chipset motherboard other than the Asus W790 with the SPR-SP D0 CPU? I found some very cheap HP Z4G5 workstation motherboards that use the W790 chipset, but I was told that they can only be used with W-24** series CPUs.
 

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Has anyone tried using a W790 chipset motherboard other than the Asus W790 with the SPR-SP D0 CPU? I found some very cheap HP Z4G5 workstation motherboards that use the W790 chipset, but I was told that they can only be used with W-24** series CPUs.
There is a branch here about ASRock WS motherboards and D0 processors. Findings with Asrock W790-WS, Xeon SPR-SP D0, and BCLK OC (and lack thereof) Bottom line - it works on ASRock, for the rest - the only way to tell is to try, no manufacturer guarantees that ES processors will work but so far it's 2 working for 2 tried. Well, 4 for 4 if you count Asus and ASRock variants.
 
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Has anyone tried using a W790 chipset motherboard other than the Asus W790 with the SPR-SP D0 CPU?
i got D0 & E0 working on supermicro X13SRA-TF because i got the board with very old Intel ME,
any update of the ME blocked any ES from starting(they helt in reset by ME)
the ME is useless for others because it is in initialized state, cleaning is impossible because the ME Tools v16.10/11 are not avail. so far.
 
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painkoyo

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doesn't sound good, but thanks for your reply!
and by the way, can anyone provide info on this motherboard, like is it a w790 chipset or a c741? I can't find any info anywhere.
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doesn't sound good, but thanks for your reply!
and by the way, can anyone provide info on this motherboard, like is it a w790 chipset or a c741? I can't find any info anywhere.
W790. It is a motherboard for Dell Precision T7960 workstation, here’s the link to its page Dell site. It says it supports Xeon W-34xx processors so it is definitely W790.IMG_0570.jpeg
Does motherboard look familiar? :)
 

RolloZ170

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doesn't sound good, but thanks for your reply!
and by the way, can anyone provide info on this motherboard, like is it a w790 chipset or a c741? I can't find any info anywhere.
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attention: Dell uses proprietäry pin layout for the 24pin,not ATX.
you need all the expensive PSU and PDU.
in EU i can provide Q08S E0 for testing, have also 12C/112L W5-3425 E3 QS who needs new home.
 
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painkoyo

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truly impressive expertise!
my main goal is using SPR-SP ES CPU to test 300 series optane dcpmm with different SKU. since i have succeeded with C741 chipset and Q079, i am wondering the possibility to power (or even overclocking) them with W790 chipset, so i am looking for some suitable W790 motherboards. I’m short on funds, so I have to be thrifty.
anyway, thanks for all the info.
 
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RolloZ170

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and Q079, i am wondering the possibility to power (or even overclocking) them with W790 chipset, so i am looking for some suitable W790 motherboards.
Q079 is locked, so you can OC only by BCLK. this works only with ASRock W790 WS R1.0(Hyper BCLK Engine)
on all other boards your PCIe etc clocks are rising with the BCLK and get unfunctional at some point.
for the HP/Dell W790 boards it is highly possible the intel ME don't start the D0/E0 ES like the SM X13SRA-TF.
remember my X13SRA-TF starts ES only with early/old ME 16.10.0.1400, next ME ver. 16.10.5.1562 blocks ES from start.
there is a way out, you can update early/old ME but keeping the ES friendly config.

Dell 7960 BIOS 1.0.5( 25 Apr. 2023 ) missing D0 microcode but E0 supported.
HP Z4 G5 WS BIOS 01.01.27 Rev.A ( Nov 16, 2023 ) removed whole D0 support, E0 supported.
 

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Q079 is locked, so you can OC only by BCLK. this works only with ASRock W790 WS R1.0(Hyper BCLK Engine)
on all other boards your PCIe etc clocks are rising with the BCLK and get unfunctional at some point.
for the HP/Dell W790 boards it is highly possible the intel ME don't start the D0/E0 ES like the SM X13SRA-TF.
remember my X13SRA-TF starts ES only with early/old ME 16.10.0.1400, next ME ver. 16.10.5.1562 blocks ES from start.
there is a way out, you can update early/old ME but keeping the ES friendly config.

Dell 7960 BIOS 1.0.5( 25 Apr. 2023 ) missing D0 microcode but E0 supported.
HP Z4 G5 WS BIOS 01.01.27 Rev.A ( Nov 16, 2023 ) removed whole D0 support, E0 supported.
extremely helpful info, think you.

all BIOS for W790 lack dcpmm support because Xeon Ws don't support them at all.
in fact, the whole idea comes from a chart made by Yuuki_Ans:
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if the leak was true, Intel may have been planning support for DCPMM on WS for quite some time at least, and perhaps the W790 has remained compatible, the reason why we can't use DCPMM on W790 is just W-24xx/34xx CPUs do not contain a memory controller that is adapted for DCPMM? and since SPR-SP D0 has proved to contain it, this maybe worth a try?
 
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if the leak was true, Intel may have been planning support for DCPMM on WS for quite some time at least
no,all final stepping QS.
Intel® Optane™ Persistent Memory Supported - No

if you believe some chinese sellers, all SPR-SP also have 4x16GB HBM built in.
and since SPR-SP D0 has proved to contain it, this maybe worth a try?
You may have missed the fact that Intel no longer supports DCPMM 300, this includes intel MRC packages for BIOS support.
besides there were steppings after D0 because they have bugs.
 
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