ES Xeon Discussion

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DHamov

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Just to confirm, these devices run at the same full clock rate as the production parts?
I bought those Q03J from ebay seller ea_memory here, the cpu's arived were shiped 2 days after the order and arived 4 days after the order. Communication and everything went very smooth and fast, asked for Fedex shipping. Make an offer for a better price, i got quite some discount 2x500USD+shipping, and maybe could have negotiated more. Just most importantly i could not test them yet because my DHL Express from the US had some issues with my ASROCK mainboard transport at customs. It is rescheduled to arrive Friday so hopefully i can tell you more experience over the weekend. I think clock speeds will be ok, just not expecting the accelerators to work.
 

Unb0rn

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Hey!
I think I saw some success stories on X12DPi with QVM7 in this thread.
I have an X12DPi-N6-AS081, it came with BIOS 1.1b - tried to set it up, but it wont go further than POST code "ad"
Tried upgrading to 1.1c - everything is the same, I can see the memory and CPU identified in IPMI webif, post codes progressing to the point of "ad" and then nothing.
Maybe someone else had the issue like that? Thanks!
 

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I have an X12DPi-N6-AS081, it came with BIOS 1.1b - tried to set it up, but it wont go further than POST code "ad"
Tried upgrading to 1.1c - everything is the same, I can see the memory and CPU identified in IPMI webif, post codes progressing to the point of "ad" and then nothing.
"ad" = ready to boot event, if all went good this is the last code you get.
but if you have no screen (BMC VGA) this is the code from last succesfull working POST not this current.
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try BIOS 1.0a
 

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is Q03J actually E0 like the listings say? all the specs feel like a D0 (35x turbo multiplier, no part number string), but $570 for a 60-core E0 would be a good deal - the cheapest octal channel C741 boards are several hundred dollars cheaper than a W790-SAGE.
 
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"ad" = ready to boot event, if all went good this is the last code you get.
but if you have no screen (BMC VGA) this is the code from last succesfull working POST not this current.
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try BIOS 1.0a
I can see post codes switching after the power cycle, but yep it stays on ad (after briefly shown 0xd9) and the screen doesn't come up.
On that BIOS 1.0a, the BMC forbids downgrade to both 1.0a and 1.1 - the only way to do it would be to desolder the chip I think
 

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is Q03J actually E0 like the listings say? all the specs feel like a D0 (35x turbo multiplier, no part number string)
yes. all ES have "0000" only EV-QS & QS have Brand strings and same specs than prod.part
Q03J 60C step 4 E0 1.6Ghz 3.5Ghz ( update: E0 but doesn't work on ASRock Rack C741 boards while Q0KL i.e. working )
QYFX 60C step 3 D0 1.7Ghz 3.4Ghz
 
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DHamov

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Just "received*" my long awaited Asrock SP2C741D16X-2T Mainboard, ordered from the US. Placed a Q03J but it wont post. error code FF which i could not find in the manual but according to here ( ASRock > Debug LED Troubleshooting Checklist ) gives directions to " Please check if the CPU is installed correctly and then clear the CMOS. " Then I tried reseating the memory, reduced all memory to a single stick, reseated the other cpu. Still only tried single cpu config with cpu0.

I am getting a bit desperate... Any ideas? Who knows maybe they upgraded the bios, and it wont support the E stepping. maybe both cpu faulty. Mainboard problem. Returing the MB to the US, would be a headage, maybe i was naive and to optimistic.

Any suggestions of things to try would be welcome.
 
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I am getting a bit desperate... Any ideas? Who knows maybe they upgraded the bios, and it wont support the E stepping. maybe both cpu faulty. Mainboard problem. Any suggestions would be welcome.
there is seller said Q03 */Q08 * (E0) is not working on non Gigabyte motherboard. unclear....
try return and replace to X13/MS73+Q0KL/Q0KG/Q0KM?
 

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Just "received*" my long awaited Asrock SP2C741D16X-2T Mainboard, ordered from the US. Placed a Q03J but it wont post. error code FF which i could not find in the manual but according to here ( ASRock > Debug LED Troubleshooting Checklist ) gives directions to " Please check if the CPU is installed correctly and then clear the CMOS. " Then I tried reseating the memory, reduced all memory to a single stick, reseated the other cpu. Still only tried single cpu config with cpu0.

I am getting a bit desperate... Any ideas? Who knows maybe they upgraded the bios, and it wont support the E stepping. maybe both cpu faulty. Mainboard problem. Returing the MB to the US, would be a headage, maybe i was naive and to optimistic.

Any suggestions of things to try would be welcome.
code FF ist just nothing happens, no code given.
both possible BIOS (initial 1.03 and beta 10.10) includes microcode for stepping E0 806f4 / 87
 

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Any ideas? Who knows maybe they upgraded the bios, and it wont support the E stepping. maybe both cpu faulty. Mainboard problem. Any suggestions would be welcome.
check BMCWebGUI inventory for last working BIOS version. if not 1.03 update to this.
 

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check BMCWebGUI inventory for last working BIOS version. if not 1.03 update to this.
Thanks, i did not know that this could work without post, but there is a lot i dont know. i will try it, have to admit i never used any BMCWebGUI, but now i am motivated to learn it and try.
 

DHamov

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I got in the BMCWebGui. At first i tried with firefox browser, and i could not flash the bios, the browse button to upload the bios was not responding. Then i tried with the Chrome browser (as recommended by RolloZ170 in pm). The flashing to bios 1.03 as well as beta bios 10.10 seemed to work. But after a power cycle (several ones naturaly). still no change, any new, bios 1.03 or 10.10 also do not show up in the ipmi anywhere.

Overall no progress. still error F.F. I tried dozens of things. cmos resets, with and without battery, booting with and withoug without battery, booting without any components except memory and cpu. Booting with cpu only. Different psu. reseating ram, cpu, tried 2 different cpu's, both Q0J3. All the same results. i tried1 some more cmos resets, another psu.Different Jumper settings, bios over ride, ME_recovery the 3 jumper setting variations that i found in the manual that seemed to make sense to me.

The only small change i got was when installing also the second cpu and or vga card. Then the ff code did not come almost instantly like 1 second after power on as always but the led error code display stayed of for a while, and the board forced some sort of resets itself. i heared the relais of the psu clicking, then it tried to boot for 5-10 seconds then again psu relais clicking. after 3-4 resets or retries, by the board itself ( i only powered it on, it stayed off (in stand by) after another try, (me pressing the power button) the same/similar happened some restarting, without any error codes, and then after 3-4 auto resets, the ff code came, and did not dissapear again :(. Also not after other restarts. Removing the second psu, or vga card, resulted in almost immediate ff code as any of all the booting attemps before.

Normally i would guess faulty motherboard, but with these ES cpu's who knows, maybe its still a compatibility issue.
Out of curiosity i tried to boot without cpu. Then i do not get the FF error code, but also nothing more happens. It seems just in standby with some green lights, but no errors or beeping. Also no errors in the ipmi log.
When i tried with the QYFS (D0) i got code FF exactly the same behavior as with Q0J3 (E0).

In the ipmi, there are no errors, on the other hand it shows no cpu information. there are no red lights no beeping, things sound pretty normal. Board and box look undamaged. Honestly the board is beautifull it would fit 2 noctua 140 air coolers, a lot of pcie cards but it is not going to make me happy if it does not run these ES cpu's. Maybe the cpu's are also faulty both although that is probably unlikely. But what is unlikely, is conditioned to the fact that some unlikely event already occurred. I already searched the manual and many forums for ff code. resulting in what i tried described above. I am getting out of idea's and hope to get this working. In retro spect i should have maybe first tried this cpu on a Asrock single socket board, that is available in europe, because i ordered this one from the US, and it will be a headache to return it in time.

Any suggestions about what to try or do are welcome!
I will also try to post in some other forums, to get some more ideas.
 
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