edge router eBGP hardware in 2022 - not a walk in da park at all?

tinfoil3d

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Kinda thought that anything around 1 maybe 2k USD used router would do the job, no? For starters that'll be dual 1gbit uplink or so. I see from some reddit posts that mikrotik can do the job, ubi and maybe even fortigate but that's all sub-optimal. I kinda naively thought I can get away with some 5-7 year old cisco or something that would do the trick of holding entire internet tables but I was wrong?
I saw that even arista 7050 switch that I have appears to not be able to eat even the whole ipv6 table, ipv4 would not even start. Which was quite a surprise.
 

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you want a full bgp view? probably any mikrotik CCR released after 2020 can hold one table(as an example, CCR2004-16G-2S+PC for $500). or you can use a modest server.
 

tinfoil3d

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Yes, full v4 and v6. I saw recommendations for mt, but had some issues even with switches. MT is super cheap and kinda feels even less reliable than software router. Not that I can try it out right now but the overall picture in my head is pretty much like I said. Am I wrong?
If I want to go a real "router" hardware, enterprise grade, jun, brocade, anything else, that is second-hand but can still run today, that's probably never gonna cost less than 2k? I remember reading this wonderful blog Creating an Autonomous System for Fun and Profit but his router was dated and probably is hitting limits now as ipv4 has grown since the year he deployed it.
 

tinfoil3d

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Well I do have a valid justification, I just don't know much about the hardware side of things. For starters just renting some addresses from DC is fine but I'd love to have full control and flexibility that comes with own AS and prefixes.
Otherwise yeah, why won't you just give out ipv6 to everyone without any requirements.
 
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discoeels

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Well I do have a valid justification, I just don't know much about the hardware side of things. For starters just renting some addresses from DC is fine but I'd love to have full control and flexibility that comes with own AS and prefixes.
Otherwise yeah, why won't you just give out ipv6 to everyone without any requirements.
Oh, I meant for myself; I don't have one. There would be no point to it(for me) anyway.
 

tinfoil3d

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They are actually gonna handle internet sized tables better than any designated hardware under 1-2k? That's the question I'd like to know the answer to.
 

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Yes, full v4 and v6. I saw recommendations for mt, but had some issues even with switches. MT is super cheap and kinda feels even less reliable than software router. Not that I can try it out right now but the overall picture in my head is pretty much like I said. Am I wrong?
If I want to go a real "router" hardware, enterprise grade, jun, brocade, anything else, that is second-hand but can still run today, that's probably never gonna cost less than 2k? I remember reading this wonderful blog Creating an Autonomous System for Fun and Profit but his router was dated and probably is hitting limits now as ipv4 has grown since the year he deployed it.
I understand that MT has made improvements with Version 7.

Here are some details

MikroTik – RouterOS v7 – BGP performance testing for full tables

They also have a VM to simulate a 500k BGP Table which I've yet to test.

Put 500,000+ BGP routes in your lab network!!! Download this VM and become your own upstream BGP ISP for testing
 

tinfoil3d

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@fohdeesha turned out it didn't went unnoticed, it was actually on yahoo japan auctions, and assumed noone would need it. two bots were betting on it for 12 straight hours, ending at about 3.1k USD. also seller wasn't savvy at all and they won't accept a return if module would turn out to be broken, or any other reason, at which point i dropped my considerations to buy it.
On the other hand I really need someone who's willing to spend some time with me explaining the basics and recommend some routers. Time paid of course.