Changing block size IBM branded Micron S650DC-800 SSD

Discussion in 'Hard Drives and Solid State Drives' started by kdub, Dec 30, 2019.

  1. kdub

    kdub New Member

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    Hey all,

    Stumbled across this ebay listing for IBM 800Gb 2.5" SAS 12Gb/s SED Flash SSD Drive FC 6258 01ML202 - DS8000/DS8880

    Seems like a great price but I see this note in description:
    Referencing model number MTFDJAK800MBS-2AN16ABBA shown in the photos, according to this data sheet these are IBM branded Micron S650DC-800 SED drives w/512b blocksize. I've messaged the seller for confirmation of the P/N.

    Two questions:
    1. If the part number is accurate indicating 512b block, how could IBM make them 528b without being able to change back to 512b?
    2. Is the block size permanently fixed from the factory or can it be changed between listed sizes using Micron's Storage Executive or even Seagate's SeaChest, similar to how IBM 520b HDD can be reformatted to 512b?

    Any experience with these? Appreciate any comments. Thanks.

    And because it may assist in answering my question, according to this website S650DC-800 drives are the same as Seagate 1200.2 and cross-referencing here it seems equivalent Seagate P/N is ST800FM0183 or possibly ST800FM0213.
     
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  2. azev

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    hmmm this is the first time I see a drive posting stating that the drive block size are permanent and cannot be changed. I assume the reason they did this is because they have tried it them self and failed. I am personally very tempted to get one and see whether it trully cannot be re-formatted to 512 block size because the price is excellent if it can be done.

    I think the one reason why the drive block size cannot be changed have to do with the firmware on the drive. Unfortunately I've had many different drive with custom firmware that I have given up on trying to flash back to the oem firmware :(
     
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  3. kdub

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    My sentiment as well. I wasn't sure if a third party firmware could prevent things like block size changes.
    I feel your pain; I'm currently messing with 6 IBM branded seagate ST4000NM0043. Hoping it's possible to put them back to OEM.

    Anyway, if it turns out 528b can be changed to 512b, please leave at least 4 of them for me ;)
     
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  4. Brick

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    I picked one up. Tried a few things but nothing worked. Let me know if you want me to try something else.
    Here is what I tried:

    sg_format -format --size=512 --fmtpinfo=0 /dev/sg4
    resulting in:
    bad argument to '--fmtpinfo', accepts 0 to 3 inclusive

    ./SeaChest_Format_140_11923_64 -d /dev/sg4 --stopOnListError --fastFormat 1 --formatUnit 512 --poll --confirm this-will-erase-data
    resulting in: Erase functions are only allowed on Seagate products

    msecli -U -i /micron_fw/M019/ -n /dev/sg4
    resulting in:
    This will update the Unsupported Model drive in the system
    Are you sure you want to continue(Y|N):Y

    Updating firmware on drive /dev/sg4 (Serial No. )
    .Firmware Update on /dev/sg4 failed with status 17

    Device Name : /dev/sg4
    Firmware Update on /dev/sg4 Failed!
    CMD_STATUS : Not a valid / supported drive
    STATUS_CODE : 17

    Copyright (C) 2019 Micron Technology, Inc.
     
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  5. kdub

    kdub New Member

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    I appreciate your initiative. I'm much more familiar with SAS HDD and have actually never used micron storage executive so my apologies for some inevitable trial error.

    How is this connected to your machine? HBA I'm hoping?

    Could still be locked or frozen. Or even need to have SED initialized before it lets you do anything. Can you show me the output of the following commands:
    Code:
    smartctl -x /dev/sg4
    ./SeaChest_Format_140_11923_64 -d /dev/sg4 -i --showSupportedSectorSizes
    sdparm -a /dev/sg4
    Not sure if it's a typo but your sg_format command is missing a - in front of -format

    You can try:
    Code:
    sg_format --format --size=512 -fmtpinfo=0 --six -v /dev/sg4
    You could also try a PSID revert to reset the drive back to factory defaults. It requires TCG commands be enabled on your linux box. See page 24 in the micron storage executive manual:
    https://www.micron.com/-/media/clie...ware/storageexecutive_user_guide_en.pdf?la=en

    or page 35 in the cli manual:
    https://www.micron.com/-/media/clie...li/storage_executive_cli_user_guide.pdf?la=en

    Also, for future reference in case we have to restore full provision, max LBA at 512 is 1,562,824,367 according to:
    https://www.micron.com/-/media/documents/products/data-sheet/ssd/s600dc_series_2_5_sas_ssd.pdf

    After all this, we can try sedutil and if all else fails we can look into using camcontrol on ssds.
     
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    Thanks kdub. Now we have more info than before. Still stuck at 528. Have not tried the PSID revert, sedutil or camcontrol but can work on it more within the next few days. No RAID controller involved. The drive is in a disk shelf connected via QLogic Corp. ISP2532-based 8Gb Fibre Channel to PCI Express HBA (rev 02)

    Code:
    smartctl 6.6 2016-05-31 r4324 [x86_64-linux-4.15.0-72-generic] (local build)
    Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
    
    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
    Vendor:               IBM-SSG
    Product:              IBM-SSGMSVW800
    Revision:             7201
    Compliance:           SPC-4
    User Capacity:        800,166,073,344 bytes [800 GB]
    Logical block size:   528 bytes
    LU is resource provisioned, LBPRZ=1
    Rotation Rate:        Solid State Device
    Form Factor:          2.5 inches
    Logical Unit id:      0x20000090fa6f010c
    Serial number:        redacted
    Device type:          disk
    Transport protocol:   Fibre channel (FCP-2)
    Local Time is:        Fri Jan 10 20:58:17 2020 EST
    SMART support is:     Available - device has SMART capability.
    SMART support is:     Enabled
    Temperature Warning:  Enabled
    Read Cache is:        Enabled
    Writeback Cache is:   Disabled
    
    === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
    SMART Health Status: OK
    
    Percentage used endurance indicator: 0%
    Current Drive Temperature:     26 C
    Drive Trip Temperature:        65 C
    
    Elements in grown defect list: 0
    
    Vendor (Seagate) cache information
      Blocks sent to initiator = 55
      Blocks received from initiator = 0
      Blocks read from cache and sent to initiator = 4
      Number of read and write commands whose size <= segment size = 0
      Number of read and write commands whose size > segment size = 0
    
    Vendor (Seagate/Hitachi) factory information
      number of hours powered up = 118.45
      number of minutes until next internal SMART test = 18
    
    Error counter log:
               Errors Corrected by           Total   Correction     Gigabytes    Total
                   ECC          rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    uncorrected
               fast | delayed   rewrites  corrected  invocations   [10^9 bytes]  errors
    read:   251411357        0  16731278  251411357          0       6343.472           0
    write:         0        0         0         0          0       4616.117           0
    verify:        0        0         0         0          0       3200.664           0
    
    Non-medium error count:        0
    
    No self-tests have been logged
    
    Background scan results log
      Status: waiting until BMS interval timer expires
        Accumulated power on time, hours:minutes 118:27 [7107 minutes]
        Number of background scans performed: 13,  scan progress: 0.00%
        Number of background medium scans performed: 0

    Code:
        /dev/sg4: IBM-SSG   IBM-SSGMSVW800    7201
    Read write error recovery mode page:
      AWRE        1  [cha: n, def:  1, sav:  1]
      ARRE        1  [cha: n, def:  1, sav:  1]
      TB          0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      RC          0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      EER         0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      PER         0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      DTE         0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      DCR         0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      RRC         1  [cha: n, def:  1, sav:  1]
      COR_S       0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      HOC         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      DSOC        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      LBPERE      0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      WRC         5  [cha: y, def:  5, sav:  5]
      RTL       7000  [cha: n, def:7000, sav:7000]
    Disconnect-reconnect (SPC + transports) mode page:
      BFR         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      BER         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      BIL         0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      DTL         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      CTL        15  [cha: y, def: 15, sav: 15]
      MBS       160  [cha: y, def:160, sav:160]
      EMDP        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      FA          0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      DIMM        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      DTDC        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      FBS         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
    Format (SBC) mode page:
      TPZ         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      ASPZ        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      ATPZ        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      ATPLU       0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      SPT         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      DBPPS     528  [cha: n, def:512, sav:528]
      INTLV       1  [cha: n, def:  1, sav:  1]
      TSF         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      CSF         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      SSEC        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      HSEC        1  [cha: n, def:  1, sav:  1]
      RMB         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      SURF        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
    Rigid disk (SBC) mode page:
      NOC         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      NOH         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      SCWP        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      SCRWC       0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      DSR         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      LZC         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      RPL         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      ROTO        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      MRR       65000  [cha: n, def:65000, sav:65000]
    Verify error recovery (SBC) mode page:
      V_EER       0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      V_PER       0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      V_DTE       0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      V_DCR       0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      V_RC       11  [cha: n, def: 11, sav: 11]
      V_COR_S     0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      V_RTL     7000  [cha: y, def:7000, sav:7000]
    Caching (SBC) mode page:
      IC          0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      ABPF        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      CAP         0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      DISC        1  [cha: y, def:  1, sav:  1]
      SIZE        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      WCE         0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      MF          0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      RCD         0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      DRRP        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      WRP         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      DPTL       -1  [cha: n, def: -1, sav: -1]
      MIPF        0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      MAPF       -1  [cha: y, def: -1, sav: -1]
      MAPFC      -1  [cha: n, def: -1, sav: -1]
      FSW         1  [cha: y, def:  1, sav:  1]
      LBCSS       0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      DRA         0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      SYNC_PROG   0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      NV_DIS      0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      NCS        10  [cha: y, def: 10, sav: 10]
      CSS         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
    Control mode page:
      TST         1  [cha: y, def:  1, sav:  1]
      TMF_ONLY    1  [cha: y, def:  1, sav:  1]
      DPICZ       0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      D_SENSE     0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      GLTSD       0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      RLEC        0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      QAM         1  [cha: y, def:  1, sav:  1]
      NUAR        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      QERR        1  [cha: y, def:  1, sav:  1]
      RAC         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      UA_INTLCK   0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      SWP         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      ATO         1  [cha: n, def:  1, sav:  1]
      TAS         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      ATMPE       0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      RWWP        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      AUTOLOAD    0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      BTP         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      ESTCT     3097  [cha: n, def:3097, sav:3097]
    Protocol specific logical unit mode page:
      LUPID       0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
    Protocol specific port mode page:
      PPID        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
    Power condition mode page:
      PM_BG       0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      STANDBY_Y   0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      IDLE_C      0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      IDLE_B      0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      IDLE        0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      STANDBY     0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      ICT        10  [cha: y, def: 10, sav: 10]
      SCT       36000  [cha: y, def:36000, sav:36000]
      IBCT      6000  [cha: y, def:6000, sav:6000]
      ICCT        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      SYCT        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      CCF_IDLE    1  [cha: y, def:  1, sav:  1]
      CCF_STAND   1  [cha: y, def:  1, sav:  1]
      CCF_STOPP   2  [cha: y, def:  2, sav:  2]
    Power consumption mode page:
      ps_id       0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
    Informational exceptions control mode page:
      PERF        1  [cha: y, def:  1, sav:  1]
      EBF         0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      EWASC       1  [cha: y, def:  1, sav:  1]
      DEXCPT      0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      TEST        0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      EBACKERR    0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      LOGERR      0  [cha: y, def:  0, sav:  0]
      MRIE        4  [cha: y, def:  4, sav:  4]
      INTT      144000  [cha: y, def:144000, sav:144000]
      REPC        0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
    Background control (SBC) mode page:
      S_L_FULL    0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      LOWIR       0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      EN_BMS      1  [cha: n, def:  1, sav:  1]
      EN_PS       0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      BMS_I      72  [cha: n, def: 72, sav: 72]
      BPS_TL      0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      MIN_IDLE    0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
      MAX_SUSP    0  [cha: n, def:  0, sav:  0]
    

    Code:
    ==========================================================================================
     SeaChest_Format - Seagate drive utilities - NVMe Enabled
     Copyright (c) 2014-2019 Seagate Technology LLC and/or its Affiliates, All Rights Reserved
     SeaChest_Format Version: 1.4.0-1_19_23 X86_64
     Build Date: Jun 10 2019
     Today: Fri Jan 10 21:02:50 2020
    ==========================================================================================
    
    /dev/sg4 - IBM-SSGMSVW800 - redacted - SCSI
    
    Supported Logical Block Sizes and Protection Types:
    ---------------------------------------------------
      * - current device format
    PI Key:
      Y - protection type supported at specified block size
      N - protection type not supported at specified block size
      ? - unable to determine support for protection type at specified block size
    Relative performance key:
      N/A - relative performance not available.
      Best   
      Better 
      Good   
      Degraded
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Logical Block Size  PI-0  PI-1  PI-2  PI-3  Relative Performance  Metadata Size
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                    512     Y     N     N     N                   N/A            N/A
                    520     Y     N     N     N                   N/A            N/A
    *               528     Y     N     N     N                   N/A            N/A
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    NOTE: Device is not capable of showing all sizes it supports. Only common
          sizes are listed. Please consult the product manual for all supported
          combinations.
    
    If I read that right, the IBM firmware allows 512 or at least SeaChest_Format thinks so.

    Code:
        IBM-SSG   IBM-SSGMSVW800    7201   peripheral_type: disk [0x0]
          PROTECT=0
          Unit serial number: redacted
          LU name: 20000090fa6f010c
        mode sense (6) cdb: 1a 00 01 00 fc 00 
    Mode Sense (block descriptor) data, prior to changes:
      Number of blocks=1515466048 [0x5a542d40]
      Block size=528 [0x210]
        mode select (6) cdb: 15 11 00 00 18 00 
    mode select (6):
    Fixed format, current; Sense key: Illegal Request
    Additional sense: Invalid field in parameter list
      Field replaceable unit code: 17
      Sense Key Specific: Error in Data parameters: byte 9 bit 7
    MODE SELECT command: Illegal request sense key, apart from Invalid opcode
    

    And for good measure:
    Code:
    root@machine:/home/user/msecli -J -b 1562824367 -l 512 -n /dev/sg4
    This command is not supported for the drive
    
    Copyright (C) 2019 Micron Technology, Inc.
    
     
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    I don't recall if any issues arise from using a fiber channel vs directly to the HBA. I'll have to read around. If it's not a total pain, it's probably best to try a direct connection.

    sdparm shows drive sector size is set at 528 "DBPPS 528 [cha: n, def:512, sav:528]" DBPPS stands for 'data bytes per physical sector'. Default for this drive is 512 but currently it's set to 528. When a drive power cycles it always loads the value in sav. Pretty sure 'cha: n' means this is not a direct changeable value. I'm guessing this is set automatically upon formatting and can't be changed otherwise.

    I don't think it will work but we can try this command to set the current size to 512 and also set the sav value to 512. FYI adding --long to the sdparm -x command will show you the full description for all the page attributes.

    Code:
    sdparm --set=DBPPS=512 --save /dev/sg4
    I'd like to think a full psid revert would set the value back to 512. Somewhere another post suggested using sedutils to erase all the bands and using the MSI password. I'm not sure if that's relevant here.

    What's the Micron model number on the drive?
     
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  8. Brick

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    S650DC, specifically the MTFDJAK800MBS. Sadly the PSID revert won't run.
    Code:
    msecli -X -P -p xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -n /dev/sg4
    This command is not supported for the drive
    
    Copyright (C) 2019 Micron Technology, Inc.
     
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    hmmm...what's the output from:

    Code:
    ./SeaChest_Security -d /dev/sg4 --tcgInfo --showLockedRegions --showEraseSupport --deviceInfo
    
     
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    Looks like you'll need access to the IBM® SAS Disk Array Manager, but note you cannot change pdisks from an array to 512/4k: IBM Knowledge Center

    If I were a betting man, I would estimate that these drives were likely in an array.
     
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  11. Brick

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    --showEraseSupport is not a parameter for any of the versions of SeaChest_Security that I have. Without that...
    Code:
    ==========================================================================================
     SeaChest_Security - Seagate drive utilities - NVMe Enabled
     Copyright (c) 2014-2019 Seagate Technology LLC and/or its Affiliates, All Rights Reserved
     SeaChest_Security Version: 2.0.1-1_19_23 X86_64
     Build Date: Jun 10 2019
     Today: Sat Jan 11 06:56:59 2020
    ==========================================================================================
    
    /dev/sg4 - IBM-SSGMSVW800 - redacted - SCSI
        Vendor ID: IBM-SSG
        Model Number: IBM-SSGMSVW800
        Serial Number: redacted
        Firmware Revision: 7201
        World Wide Name: 20000090FA6F010C
        Drive Capacity (GB/GiB): 800.17/745.21
        Temperature Data:
            Current Temperature (C): Not Reported
            Highest Temperature (C): Not Reported
            Lowest Temperature (C): Not Reported
        Power On Time: Not Reported
        Power On Hours: Not Reported
        MaxLBA: 1515466047
        Native MaxLBA: Not Reported
        Logical Sector Size (B): 528
        Physical Sector Size (B): 4224
        Sector Alignment: 0
        Rotation Rate (RPM): SSD
        Form Factor: 2.5"
        Last DST information:
            Not supported
        Long Drive Self Test Time:  51 minutes
        Interface speed:
            Not Reported
        Annualized Workload Rate (TB/yr): Not Reported
        Total Bytes Read (B): Not Reported
        Total Bytes Written (B): Not Reported
        Encryption Support: Self Encrypting
        Cache Size (MiB): Not Reported
        Percentage Used Endurance Indicator (%): Not Reported
        Read Look-Ahead: Not Supported
        Write Cache: Disabled
        SMART Status: Unknown or Not Supported
        ATA Security Information: Not Supported
        Firmware Download Support: Full, Segmented
        Specifications Supported:
            SPC-4
            ----
            ----
            ----
            ----
            ----
            ----
            ----
            ----
        Features Supported:
            Power Comsumption
            UNMAP
            TCG
            Automatic Write Reassignment [Enabled]
            Automatic Read Reassignment [Enabled]
            EPC
            Informational Exceptions [Mode 4]
    TCG Device Information:
    TCG Type: TCG Enterprise
    Data Access: Unlocked
    Supported TCG Features:
        TPER
        Locking
        Geometry
    TCG Drive Locking Regions:
    ==========================
    Name                   Common Name                         Range Start             Range Length            Read Status       Write Status    LockOnReset
    Global_Range           Locking                             N/A                     N/A                     Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle
    Band1                  Locking                             N/A                     N/A                     Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle
    Band2                  Locking                             N/A                     N/A                     Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle
    Band3                  Locking                             N/A                     N/A                     Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle
    Band4                  Locking                             N/A                     N/A                     Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle
    Band5                  Locking                             N/A                     N/A                     Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle
    Band6                  Locking                             N/A                     N/A                     Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle
    Band7                  Locking                             N/A                     N/A                     Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle
    Band8                  Locking                             N/A                     N/A                     Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle
    Band9                  Locking                             N/A                     N/A                     Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle
    Band10                 Locking                             N/A                     N/A                     Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle
    Band11                 Locking                             N/A                     N/A                     Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle
    Band12                 Locking                             N/A                     N/A                     Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle
    Band13                 Locking                             N/A                     N/A                     Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle
    Band14                 Locking                             N/A                     N/A                     Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle
    Band15                 Locking                             N/A                     N/A                     Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle
    
    NOTE1: The Global Range encompases all LBAs not already assigned to a range or band.
    NOTE2: All supported ranges or bands are shown.
           Not all bands will be used.
           Consult your security software to configure the different ranges or bands.
     
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  12. Brick

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    Switched to a SAS HBA away from the fibre channel setup. Ran the smartctl command and got some additional SAS info.
    Code:
    root@ubuntu:~# smartctl -x /dev/sg1
    smartctl 6.6 2016-05-31 r4324 [x86_64-linux-5.0.0-23-generic] (local build)
    Copyright (C) 2002-16, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
    
    === START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
    Vendor:               IBM-SSG
    Product:              IBM-SSGMSVW800
    Revision:             7201
    Compliance:           SPC-4
    User Capacity:        800,166,073,344 bytes [800 GB]
    Logical block size:   528 bytes
    LU is resource provisioned, LBPRZ=1
    Rotation Rate:        Solid State Device
    Form Factor:          2.5 inches
    Logical Unit id:      0x5000c500ad704f6c
    Serial number:        redacted
    Device type:          disk
    Transport protocol:   SAS (SPL-3)
    Local Time is:        Sat Jan 11 15:05:57 2020 UTC
    SMART support is:     Available - device has SMART capability.
    SMART support is:     Enabled
    Temperature Warning:  Enabled
    Read Cache is:        Enabled
    Writeback Cache is:   Disabled
    
    === START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
    SMART Health Status: OK
    
    Percentage used endurance indicator: 0%
    Current Drive Temperature:     23 C
    Drive Trip Temperature:        65 C
    
    Elements in grown defect list: 0
    
    Vendor (Seagate/Hitachi) factory information
      number of hours powered up = 129.92
      number of minutes until next internal SMART test = 41
    
    Error counter log:
               Errors Corrected by           Total   Correction     Gigabytes    Total
                   ECC          rereads/    errors   algorithm      processed    uncorrected
               fast | delayed   rewrites  corrected  invocations   [10^9 bytes]  errors
    read:   251411359        0  16731278  251411359          0       6343.472           0
    write:         0        0         0         0          0       4616.120           0
    verify:        0        0         0         0          0       3200.664           0
    
    Non-medium error count:        0
    
    No self-tests have been logged
    
    Background scan results log
      Status: waiting until BMS interval timer expires
        Accumulated power on time, hours:minutes 129:55 [7795 minutes]
        Number of background scans performed: 14,  scan progress: 0.00%
        Number of background medium scans performed: 0
    
    Protocol Specific port log page for SAS SSP
    relative target port id = 1
      generation code = 0
      number of phys = 1
      phy identifier = 0
        attached device type: expander device
        attached reason: SMP phy control function
        reason: power on
        negotiated logical link rate: phy enabled; 6 Gbps
        attached initiator port: ssp=0 stp=0 smp=0
        attached target port: ssp=0 stp=0 smp=1
        SAS address = 0x5000c500ad704f6d
        attached SAS address = 0x80e01d9d588000bf
        attached phy identifier = 8
        Invalid DWORD count = 0
        Running disparity error count = 0
        Loss of DWORD synchronization = 0
        Phy reset problem = 0
        Phy event descriptors:
         Invalid word count: 0
         Running disparity error count: 0
         Loss of dword synchronization count: 0
         Phy reset problem count: 0
    relative target port id = 2
      generation code = 0
      number of phys = 1
      phy identifier = 1
        attached device type: no device attached
        attached reason: unknown
        reason: unknown
        negotiated logical link rate: phy enabled; unknown
        attached initiator port: ssp=0 stp=0 smp=0
        attached target port: ssp=0 stp=0 smp=0
        SAS address = 0x5000c500ad704f6e
        attached SAS address = 0x0
        attached phy identifier = 0
        Invalid DWORD count = 0
        Running disparity error count = 0
        Loss of DWORD synchronization = 0
        Phy reset problem = 0
        Phy event descriptors:
         Invalid word count: 0
         Running disparity error count: 0
         Loss of dword synchronization count: 0
         Phy reset problem count: 0
    

    Connected to the SAS HBA, some additional info and features are reported by SeaChest_Security
    Code:
    ./SeaChest_Security_201_11923_64 -d /dev/sg1 --tcgInfo --showLockedRegions --deviceInfo
    ==========================================================================================
     SeaChest_Security - Seagate drive utilities - NVMe Enabled
     Copyright (c) 2014-2019 Seagate Technology LLC and/or its Affiliates, All Rights Reserved
     SeaChest_Security Version: 2.0.1-1_19_23 X86_64
     Build Date: Jun 10 2019
     Today: Sat Jan 11 15:25:02 2020
    ==========================================================================================
    
    /dev/sg1 - IBM-SSGMSVW800 - redacted - SCSI
        Vendor ID: IBM-SSG 
        Model Number: IBM-SSGMSVW800 
        Serial Number: redacted
        Firmware Revision: 7201
        World Wide Name: 5000C500AD704F6C
        Drive Capacity (GB/GiB): 800.17/745.21
        Temperature Data:
            Current Temperature (C): 23
            Highest Temperature (C): Not Reported
            Lowest Temperature (C): Not Reported
        Power On Time:  5 days 10 hours 14 minutes 
        Power On Hours: 130.23
        MaxLBA: 1515466047
        Native MaxLBA: Not Reported
        Logical Sector Size (B): 528
        Physical Sector Size (B): 4224
        Sector Alignment: 0
        Rotation Rate (RPM): SSD
        Form Factor: 2.5"
        Last DST information:
            DST has never been run
        Long Drive Self Test Time:  51 minutes 
        Interface speed:
            Port 0 (Current Port)
                Max Speed (GB/s): 6.0
                Negotiated Speed (Gb/s): 6.0
            Port 1
                Max Speed (GB/s): 6.0
                Negotiated Speed (Gb/s): Not Reported
        Annualized Workload Rate (TB/yr): 737.18
        Total Bytes Read (TB): 6.34
        Total Bytes Written (TB): 4.62
        Encryption Support: Self Encrypting
        Cache Size (MiB): Not Reported
        Percentage Used Endurance Indicator (%): 0.04980
        Read Look-Ahead: Not Supported
        Write Cache: Disabled
        SMART Status: Good
        ATA Security Information: Not Supported
        Firmware Download Support: Full, Segmented, Deferred
        Specifications Supported:
            SPC-4
            ----
            ----
            ----
            ----
            ----
            ----
            ----
            ----
        Features Supported:
            Power Comsumption
            UNMAP
            TCG
            Application Client Logging
            Self Test
            Automatic Write Reassignment [Enabled]
            Automatic Read Reassignment [Enabled]
            EPC
            Informational Exceptions [Mode 4]
            Format Unit
    TCG Device Information:
    TCG Type: TCG Enterprise
    Data Access: Unlocked
    Drive State: Use
    Drive Ports:
        Firmware Download - Unlocked
        UDS - Locked
    Security Operating Mode: 2 - TCG Security Active
    Supported TCG Features:
        TPER
        Locking
        Geometry
    TCG Drive Locking Regions:
    ==========================
    Name                  Common Name                        Range Start            Range Length            Read Status      Write Status    LockOnReset
    Global_Range          Locking                            N/A                    N/A                    Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle 
    Band1                  Locking                            N/A                    N/A                    Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle 
    Band2                  Locking                            N/A                    N/A                    Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle 
    Band3                  Locking                            N/A                    N/A                    Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle 
    Band4                  Locking                            N/A                    N/A                    Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle 
    Band5                  Locking                            N/A                    N/A                    Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle 
    Band6                  Locking                            N/A                    N/A                    Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle 
    Band7                  Locking                            N/A                    N/A                    Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle 
    Band8                  Locking                            N/A                    N/A                    Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle 
    Band9                  Locking                            N/A                    N/A                    Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle 
    Band10                Locking                            N/A                    N/A                    Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle 
    Band11                Locking                            N/A                    N/A                    Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle 
    Band12                Locking                            N/A                    N/A                    Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle 
    Band13                Locking                            N/A                    N/A                    Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle 
    Band14                Locking                            N/A                    N/A                    Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle 
    Band15                Locking                            N/A                    N/A                    Disabled          Disabled      PowerCycle 
    
    NOTE1: The Global Range encompases all LBAs not already assigned to a range or band.
    NOTE2: All supported ranges or bands are shown.
           Not all bands will be used.
           Consult your security software to configure the different ranges or bands.
    

    The msecli psid reset command still reports "This command is not supported for the drive"
     
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  13. kdub

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    I see "Security Operating Mode: 2 - TCG Security Active" in the output. Unless the firmware is preventing a revert then there must be something we're doing wrong. From the seagate secure documentation page 9
    https://www.cryptsoft.com/fips140/vendors/140sp2695.pdf

    Try
    Code:
    ./Sea_Chest_Erase -d /dev/sg4 --revertSP --psid <32 character psid> --confirm <confirm message it requires>
    If that doesn't work, try it with --revert instead of --revertSP

    In order to use revert(SP) and other TCG related commands, you have to have TCG enabled on boot. On Ubuntu you can usually check using:
    Code:
    cat /sys/module/libata/parameters/allow_tpm
    
    1 - enabled
    0 - disabled
    Not sure which OS your using but here's what the seachest docs have to say:
    Abstract --------
    The SeaChest_Erase --revert and --revertSP commands require specific support be enabled in the Linux kernel. This document describes the process to enable support for sending ATA Trusted Trusted Computing Group (TCG) commands in Linux. The focus is on how to do this through Ubuntu Linux 14.04LTS, however, the process should apply to other Linux’s as well although others may vary slightly.

    Modifying The GRUB Configuration File (Ubuntu example used) -----
    In order to make the change to allow TCG commands persist across reboots, you must modify the kernel boot parameters. In Ubuntu, this is accomplished by modifying the GRUB 2 configuration file. This section references the Grub2 configuration documentation from the Ubuntu Community: Grub2/Setup - Community Help Wiki Follow these steps to perform this modification in Ubuntu (other Linuxs may be similar).
    1. You must modify the file /etc/default/grub. You can do this by running "sudo gedit /etc/default/grub"
    2. Once this file is open in the editor of your choice, add "libata.allow_tpm=1" to the line that begins with "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT" (or which ever line in grub is the one you use to boot your kernel, but this is the default).
    3. Close your editor
    4. Run the command "sudo update-grub" to apply your changes to the grub boot configuration (the file modified in these steps is a config file for the config file).
    5. Restart your computer to make this active

    Temporarily Enabling TCG Commands In Linux -----
    You can temporarily enable TCG commands without modifying the kernel boot parameters. This can be accomplished by modifying the libata parameters file. Below is a sample script that can be run to do this. Sample Script: cd /sys/module/libata/parameters sudo chmod 644 allow_tpm echo 1 | sudo dd of=./allow_tpm sudo chmod 444 allow_tpm

    Tiny Core - Enabling TCG Commands ------
    Follow these steps to enable TCG commands on a Tiny Core bootable USB flash drive.
    1. Leave the USB flash drive in after you run the Windows-based USB boot maker tool.
    2. Using a (Windows) text editor go to USB:/boot/syslinux.cfg and in there, add libata.allow_tpm=1 on the append line with the other kernel boot parameters.
    3. Using a (Windows) text editor go to USB:/EFI/boot/refind.conf and add libata.allow_tpm=1 on the options line with the other kernel boot parameters Alternate method: If Linux is already booted and you only want to temporarily enable TCG commands, you can change the contents of /sys/module/libata/parameters/allow_tpm from "0" to a "1".

    Edit: forgot my response to zack$
    I believe you're correct on the origin. I gather from a very brief review of the IBM documentation is that the manager won't allow you to change the block size of disks already configured to be in the array, which it refers to as pdisks with 528 block. To change to 512 block, the disk has to be removed from the array and set as an hdisk. I suppose it's possible that this can only be done inside IBM array manager, but I would think the drive would allow you to format outside of the IBM manager. Especially a full wipe.

    It's probably too much to ask to find an IBM system to drop this drive in and test. I'm not sure if there's a way to set up the IBM manager on a standard linux box.
     
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    hmm this is very unfortunate, was following this thread closely especially because the pricing of this ssd is great deal if it works out.
     
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    It's not over just yet. Still some things to try. The problem with SED drives is there's often a specific order of operations needed to make these kind of changes. Which I'm not too familiar with. We haven't even messed with sedutils yet. I'm not sure if this works on ssds, but with hdd the hail mary is using camcontrol on freeBSD. Give it a try if you can, and post the output of diskinfo even if it doesn't work:
    Code:
    #get the drive location
    camcontrol devlist
    # get drive info to verify
    diskinfo -v <disk location, example: da1>
    # magic incantation assuming drive is da1
    camcontrol cmd da1 -v -c "15 10 0 0 v:i1 0" 12 -o 12 "0 0 0 8 0 0:i3 0 v:i3" 512
    # then format drive
    camcontrol format da1 -q -y
    Reformatting NetApp Disks from 520 sector size to 512 sector size using FreeNAS (FreeBSD) — Henderson's Law
     
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    Hmmmm just saw someone purchased 36 of the drives from Ebay. I guess someone either have the IBM array or have found the solutions to convert the block size.
     
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    Looks like the same user tried to buy all 48 of them on a week ago. They have 1188 feedback so I'm assuming this is another seller looking to make some money. Still 10 remaining. Of course, someone will buy all of them as soon as they read a solution here, if it exists.
     
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    FYI
    Code:
    root@c240-bsd1:~ # diskinfo -v da0
    da0
        528             # sectorsize
        800166073344    # mediasize in bytes (745G)
        1515466048      # mediasize in sectors
        4224            # stripesize
        0               # stripeoffset
        94333           # Cylinders according to firmware.
        255             # Heads according to firmware.
        63              # Sectors according to firmware.
        IBM-SSG IBM-SSGMSVW800    # Disk descr.
        redacted    # Disk ident.
        Yes             # TRIM/UNMAP support
        0               # Rotation rate in RPM
        Not_Zoned       # Zone Mode
    
    root@c240-bsd1:~ # camcontrol cmd da0 -v -c "15 10 0 0 v:i1 0" 12 -o 12 "0 0 0 8 0 0:i3 0 v:i3" 512
    camcontrol: error sending command
    (pass1:mps0:0:25:0): MODE SELECT(6). CDB: 15 10 00 00 0c 00
    (pass1:mps0:0:25:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error
    (pass1:mps0:0:25:0): SCSI status: Check Condition
    (pass1:mps0:0:25:0): SCSI sense: ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:26,0 (Invalid field in parameter list)
    (pass1:mps0:0:25:0): Field Replaceable Unit: 17
    (pass1:mps0:0:25:0): Data byte 9 bit 7 is invalid
     
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    RevertSP failed. Revert is not supported.
    Code:
    cat /sys/module/libata/parameters/allow_tpm 
    1
    ./SeaChest_Erase_201_11923_64 -d /dev/sg1 --revertSP --psid xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx --confirm this-will-erase-data
    ==========================================================================================
     SeaChest_Erase - Seagate drive utilities - NVMe Enabled
     Copyright (c) 2014-2019 Seagate Technology LLC and/or its Affiliates, All Rights Reserved
     SeaChest_Erase Version: 2.0.1-1_19_23 X86_64
     Build Date: Jun 10 2019
     Today: Mon Jan 13 19:56:14 2020
    ==========================================================================================
    
    /dev/sg1 - IBM-SSGMSVW800 - redacted - SCSI
    
    RevertSP
    RevertSP Failure!
    
    

    Revert is not supported with or without the psid.
    Code:
    ./SeaChest_Erase_201_11923_64 -d /dev/sg1 --revert --confirm this-will-erase-data
    ==========================================================================================
     SeaChest_Erase - Seagate drive utilities - NVMe Enabled
     Copyright (c) 2014-2019 Seagate Technology LLC and/or its Affiliates, All Rights Reserved
     SeaChest_Erase Version: 2.0.1-1_19_23 X86_64
     Build Date: Jun 10 2019
     Today: Mon Jan 13 19:58:23 2020
    ==========================================================================================
    
    /dev/sg1 - IBM-SSGMSVW800 - redacted - SCSI
    
    Revert
    Revert is not supported on this device.

    Tried sanitize blockerase and it failed.
    Code:
    ./SeaChest_Erase_201_11923_64 -d /dev/sg1 --sanitize blockerase --confirm this-will-erase-data
    ==========================================================================================
     SeaChest_Erase - Seagate drive utilities - NVMe Enabled
     Copyright (c) 2014-2019 Seagate Technology LLC and/or its Affiliates, All Rights Reserved
     SeaChest_Erase Version: 2.0.1-1_19_23 X86_64
     Build Date: Jun 10 2019
     Today: Mon Jan 13 19:52:11 2020
    ==========================================================================================
    
    /dev/sg1 - IBM-SSGMSVW800 - redacted - SCSI
    
    Sanitize
    Starting Sanitize Block Erase
    Sanitize command failed!
    

    No luck with sedutil either:
    Code:
    ./sedutil-cli --scan
    Scanning for Opal compliant disks
    /dev/sda   No  VM0160EASRP                              HPG3   
    /dev/sdb   No   
    No more disks present ending scan
    
    ./sedutil-cli --query /dev/sdb
    Invalid or unsupported disk /dev/sdb
    
     ./sedutil-cli --query /dev/sg1
    Invalid or unsupported disk /dev/sg1
     
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    Well shoot. This is very disappointing. Unless anyone else has a suggestion I'd probably send it back for a refund. Thank you for your effort.
     
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