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Brocade ICX Series (cheap & powerful 10gbE/40gbE switching)

Dreece

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I have too much infrastructure already built to swap out to all mellanox. Will have to bite the bullet and buy one to see if those cables work.

Bought a dozen Brocade 57-1000042-02 just to get me going.
We get by with what is sensible... the best way is to never allow yourself to be pressured into getting everything done overnight... walk away from it for a couple of days and you'll be better for it. You have the foundation, that's what matters.
 

itronin

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Almost done with my fan mod for the ICX6650. Might not win any beauty pageants, but she's so much quieter now.

Dunno. the blue paint job looks pretty cool. Really cool overall actually! Harkens back to the day when google and symantec painted their chassis' yellow. did you connect these fans to the interior sensors? Mine's in the basement so I honestly don't care. I have to say though add a le mans racing strip and you're all set! nice job!
 

Churchill

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We get by with what is sensible... the best way is to never allow yourself to be pressured into getting everything done overnight... walk away from it for a couple of days and you'll be better for it. You have the foundation, that's what matters.

I'm a HUGE proponent of getting all the parts ready for install and then deploying at once. I've got a laundry list of equipment that I have to replace and upgrade in my cabinet. I have next weekend set aside for this so I'll have most everything ready to go. Time is the one thing I do NOT have allot of and need to plan accordingly.

I already know that I have to:

1. Upgrade the switch to the latest firmware
2. Flash 3 cards
3. Install SFP's into the switch, verify all ports active.
4. Pray

Cabinet rebuild:

1. Remove old hardware and cables: 2 switches and a old desktop converted to server.
2. Rack TOR Brocade switch
3. Install/Upgrade Servers (New backup system, increase RAM in main system )
4. Cable everything up.
5. Turn devices on one at a time
6. Pray
 
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Dreece

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I have to say though add a le mans racing strip and you're all set! nice job!
LOL... I thought for a sec you were going to flesh out the upgrade path to a "put it on 22s, and throw in an rgb strip while you're at it".... :D

If I was going to go for beauty I'd take the front front off and take it in for rose gold electro plating, chamaeleon powder coat the rest of the shell and possibly even replace the port leds with blues and shove a small tft screen with a switch to hook into the console port... now we have functional bling. :cool:
 

Dreece

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I'm a HUGE proponent of getting all the parts ready for install and then deploying at once. I've got a laundry list of equipment that I have to replace and upgrade in my cabinet. I have next weekend set aside for this so I'll have most everything ready to go. Time is the one thing I do NOT have allot of and need to plan accordingly.

I already know that I have to:

1. Upgrade the switch to the latest firmware
2. Flash 3 cards
3. Install SFP's into the switch, verify all ports active.
4. Pray

Cabinet rebuild:

1. Remove old hardware and cables: 2 switches and a old desktop converted to server.
2. Rack TOR Brocade switch
3. Install/Upgrade Servers (New backup system, increase RAM in main system )
4. Cable everything up.
5. Turn devices on one at a time
6. Pray
Pray indeed! ;)

Thing with the all in approach is that you leave yourself open to mistakes... unless you've done the feasibility/planning/sign-off well in advance and know exactly what and why and how beforehand, which is not how we often tend to do things when it comes homelabs... the principle of taking the back seat now and again is more for those who are upgrading on the fly, it pays dividends.

If you had it all planned out well in advance then you're more than correct to race forward full steam... I cheer you on! I draw no judgement, just try to get my two cents in here and there where I can to help balance out a fellow technophobe's goals, we're all on the road, just in different cars with differing routes.
 

Churchill

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I like being in my Humvee whereas I know I'll not get there fast I will run over everything in the way and get there alive.

I've done quite a bit of research on these switches, cards, and networking. I'm running into nearly a week of replication from one system to another due to folks wanting more and more data and the data hoarding never stops :D
 

Dreece

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The brash bold and confident spirit of a traditional American... no such thing as the slow lane.
I will carefully tag along in your slipstream in my Mini with a few tanks of gas, cos you're gonna need juice very very soon in that guzzler. :p
 
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Churchill

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:usa:

I'm putting in a 40GB network in my house, there is absolutely nothing normal about this as it's massive overkill.

I'm honest in my insanity.
 
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capn13

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Interesting to note several people's comments on G-Electronic from eBay. I wasn't sure they would ship my 7250's to the UK since the description notes (somewhat emphatically) that they don't ship International (or APO/DPO).

But I received shipping info earlier...lets hope the packing is up to scratch :confused:
 

Dreece

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Hope so mate, nothing worse than a lemon or a badly bruised potato turning up from across the pond.
 

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Interesting to note several people's comments on G-Electronic from eBay. I wasn't sure they would ship my 7250's to the UK since the description notes (somewhat emphatically) that they don't ship International (or APO/DPO).

But I received shipping info earlier...lets hope the packing is up to scratch :confused:
They offered to give me a partial refund if I'd keep the broken switches, there's like 4 ports minimum on each switch that aren't working.
 

capn13

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One thing that confuses me is how one arrives at the optics part numbers from the official Brocade part numbers.

For example, referring to @fohdeesha's datasheet on the 6450, I see Brocade part number 10G-SFPP-SR (a 10GBASE-SR, SFP+ optic, LC, 300 m over multimode fibre optic).

And perusing STH that is equivalent to a Brocade 33011-000 transceiver....put where to those latter part numbers come from? I had a search thru ruckus but perhaps by search-fu isn't strong enough..

Can anyone enlighten me please?
 

capn13

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They offered to give me a partial refund if I'd keep the broken switches, there's like 4 ports minimum on each switch that aren't working.
Fingers crossed then...I can make up the GbE port numbers easily enough but like you I'd prefer the SFP+ ports to be intact!
 

Dave Corder

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I'm having a couple issues with my ICX6610-48P. I bought it on ebay a few months ago, but have only now just gotten it installed (moved to a new house, setting up network from scratch with the new switch).

First, the LED on one of the power supplies keeps cycling on and off and the log is filled with these messages:

00 days 14h53m08s:A:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is down
00 days 14h52m28s:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
00 days 14h52m03s:A:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is down
00 days 14h51m23s:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
00 days 14h50m57s:A:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is down
00 days 14h50m17s:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
00 days 14h49m52s:A:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is down
00 days 14h49m12s:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
00 days 14h48m47s:A:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is down
00 days 14h48m06s:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
00 days 14h47m46s:A:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is down
00 days 14h47m06s:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
00 days 14h46m41s:A:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is down
00 days 14h46m01s:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
00 days 14h45m35s:A:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is down
00 days 14h45m05s:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is up


Do I have a defective PSU? If so, does anyone have one they're willing to part with to replace it?

Seems like I have Rev A power supplies. Here's the info for the one that's working:

Power supply 2 (AC - PoE) present, status ok
Model Number: 23-0000142-02
Serial Number: 64K
Firmware Ver: A


Second, nothing happens when I plug in my Ubiquiti wireless APs. No link or PoE. I have 'inline power' enabled on the ports I'm trying to use, but that doesn't seem to have any effect. Is there some trick to getting PoE going, or do I possibly have a defective PoE board?
 

Dreece

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Does appear a defective PoE board, apparently they can be replaced, however there is another thread rolling in this subforum right now where the gent has put a new one in and his switch isn't getting past the bootloader.
 

Dave Corder

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Does appear a defective PoE board, apparently they can be replaced, however there is another thread rolling in this subforum right now where the gent has put a new one in and his switch isn't getting past the bootloader.
I just found that thread. Not seeing any other error messages in my logs at the moment, but when I have a chance I will open it up and look at the PoE board.
 

Dave Corder

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Naturally, now that I've posted about a possible PoE issue, it appears to be working fine now. Still have the PSU issue, though.
 
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Dreece

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These brocades are awesome, but they do run hot and need adequate cooling, I've got mine in my cold attic and it's still pushing around 54 degrees. PSUs fail, that's a given, easily replaceable, plugnplay... but thank goodness yours is fine :)
 

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I'm having a couple issues with my ICX6610-48P. I bought it on ebay a few months ago, but have only now just gotten it installed (moved to a new house, setting up network from scratch with the new switch).

First, the LED on one of the power supplies keeps cycling on and off and the log is filled with these messages:

00 days 14h53m08s:A:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is down
00 days 14h52m28s:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
00 days 14h52m03s:A:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is down
00 days 14h51m23s:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
00 days 14h50m57s:A:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is down
00 days 14h50m17s:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
00 days 14h49m52s:A:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is down
00 days 14h49m12s:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
00 days 14h48m47s:A:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is down
00 days 14h48m06s:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
00 days 14h47m46s:A:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is down
00 days 14h47m06s:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
00 days 14h46m41s:A:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is down
00 days 14h46m01s:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
00 days 14h45m35s:A:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is down
00 days 14h45m05s:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE Power supply 1 with 748000 mwatts capacity is up


Do I have a defective PSU? If so, does anyone have one they're willing to part with to replace it?

Seems like I have Rev A power supplies. Here's the info for the one that's working:

Power supply 2 (AC - PoE) present, status ok
Model Number: 23-0000142-02
Serial Number: 64K
Firmware Ver: A


Second, nothing happens when I plug in my Ubiquiti wireless APs. No link or PoE. I have 'inline power' enabled on the ports I'm trying to use, but that doesn't seem to have any effect. Is there some trick to getting PoE going, or do I possibly have a defective PoE board?

that's a bad PSU