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Brocade ICX Series (cheap & powerful 10gbE/40gbE switching)

capn13

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This site is terrible for my wallet.

6610-24P ordered and on the way. 3 10Gb ports after linking my two 6450s was nowhere near enough bandwidth.
You're telling me.

But fear not you're not alone: ordered two 7250-24's earlier so the house can now be re-wired/fibred :)

Goodbye cheapo switches, hellow bandwidth!!
 

seatrope

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Hi all, and thanks @fohdeesha again for all of your mentoring!

Question for anyone who’s opened their 6450. I have a 6450-48P which I’m not using any POE devices with. Want to swap fans but I can’t figure out how to open the case. A search of this thread didn’t yield anything relevant (apologies if I missed something). I removed all screws and the top cover is loose except for the area towards the back which seems riveted to the frame below with two rivets on each side. I tried to attach a photo but for some reason there’s an upload error.

Did you guys just force it open? Seems to be bending the frame backward when I try to lever it open.
 

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Did you guys just force it open? Seems to be bending the frame backward when I try to lever it open.
You don't have to force it, it'll come off freely when all screws are removed. There are a *lot* of screws holding the cover on though and I remember some of them being in unexpected places. Give me a few minutes to move everything off of mine and pull it out and I'll detail screw locations.
 

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Seem to have removed all the screws I can see. Did another close inspection. What I can see is that there are 4 rivet type things along the back edge of the side panels (2 each side) which are preventing me from lifting off the top. Still can’t upload a picture ...
 

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Screw locations on my 24P upstairs:

Top cover front edge: 3
Per Side, front by rack ears:1 -- midway back: 1
Back, bottom edge in each corner: 1 -- middle of back by AUX power input: 1

edit: Oops, the cluster of 3 screws IS the rack ears. There's just 1 in the middle of that holding the cover on.
 

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Will the ICX6610 PoE model run on the lower spec 250W PSUs? I don't need anything even close to 1kW, I'm drawing something like 15W from my 6450 right now. If possible I'm thinking of picking up a couple of RPS15-E (250W) so I'll have two racked and the fans will spin down. A 250W supply would put me at a more efficient PSU load compared to the 1kW as well. Thoughts?
 

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So my icx is pulling this error on start up not sure if anyone had this issue before or how to fix it. I hit b but cant stop the boot loader with B it just reenters back into it.

Code:
ICX Boot Code Version 10.1.00 (grz10100)
Enter 'a' to stop at memory test
Enter 'b' to stop at boot monitor
.BOOT ERR: load monitor failed (ERR0)
$

Boot(Mem-Test)>mt
1: [20000000] {Incremental}
Failed at 0: expected 0, actual 400
 
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Dreece

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I'm no Brocade expert, but that doesn't look promising... :eek:

Do you have home insurance? Sometimes you can claim power-surge damage.

Though not sure if they would class an enterprise switch as a 'home personal-use' product, whatever you do, don't say you work from home, because that's when they'll throw the 'business use' argument at you and you get nada.
 
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Will the ICX6610 PoE model run on the lower spec 250W PSUs? I don't need anything even close to 1kW, I'm drawing something like 15W from my 6450 right now. If possible I'm thinking of picking up a couple of RPS15-E (250W) so I'll have two racked and the fans will spin down. A 250W supply would put me at a more efficient PSU load compared to the 1kW as well. Thoughts?

it'll run with the non-PoE supplies, it'll just disable poe (obviously) but you're not going to save any power draw or gain efficiency. the PoE supplies are two seperate DC supplies, the 12v supply that powers the actual switch is the exact same 250w capacity as the non-PoE models. There's a second DC supply around ~54v with a capacity of 750w that is strictly for the PoE daughterboard, it's not going to cause any extra power draw with no PoE devices in use. and even if you do enable a few PoE devices, you're looking at an extra draw of maybe 2 watts per PoE device, so even if the 54v DC rail is doing 50% efficiency because the draw is so far away from it's rated load, you're still barely looking at 2 extra watts of losses
 

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So my icx is pulling this error on start up not sure if anyone had this issue before or how to fix it. I hit b but cant stop the boot loader with B it just reenters back into it.

Code:
ICX Boot Code Version 10.1.00 (grz10100)
Enter 'a' to stop at memory test
Enter 'b' to stop at boot monitor
.BOOT ERR: load monitor failed (ERR0)
$

Boot(Mem-Test)>mt
1: [20000000] {Incremental}
Failed at 0: expected 0, actual 400
it's dead. I'd say replace the RAM in any other case but given it seemingly took an indirect strike of some kind (through mains) I seriously doubt that'll fix it
 

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it'll run with the non-PoE supplies, it'll just disable poe (obviously) but you're not going to save any power draw or gain efficiency. the PoE supplies are two seperate DC supplies, the 12v supply that powers the actual switch is the exact same 250w capacity as the non-PoE models. There's a second DC supply around ~54v with a capacity of 750w that is strictly for the PoE daughterboard, it's not going to cause any extra power draw with no PoE devices in use. and even if you do enable a few PoE devices, you're looking at an extra draw of maybe 2 watts per PoE device, so even if the 54v DC rail is doing 50% efficiency because the draw is so far away from it's rated load, you're still barely looking at 2 extra watts of losses
Sounds like it'll be good enough for me out of the box. Thanks! Looking forward to playing with the SDN features when it arrives :)
 

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Hey @fohdeesha any idea why the 7xxx series has the option to run a hypervisor? Curious how they are using it.
it runs the main fastiron app in a VM for isolation/security purposes, you can switch it off and have it run "native" with a bootloader arg for debugging purposes, but shouldn't be ran in production like that. If you got a switch that says "HV disabled" during boot, you need to turn it back on. I've gotten a couple ICX7750s like that, pretty sure they came from the old brocade offices directly (they had the same QR sticker as the others I've gotten from there)
 
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Can i take a Brocade ICX6650 and utilize this as a 4 port 40GBe switch? In this way I truly only need 3 devices plugged into these ports for backups and job replications. I can then take the front part of these switches, drop in a bunch of 10GBE modules and call it day and have 10/40GBE?

I want to simplify my networking stack from 3 switches to 1 if possible with the least amount of equipment due to spacing. Right now it's a 1GB switch, 10GB switch, and 40GB switch. I have a feeling that the answer to my question is YES but it cannot hurt to double check

Answer: YES


Ok looks like I can do this, posted replies.

Any solid QFP modules I can use for this switch?
 

Churchill

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Are the runs short? If so you can use NetApp QSFP SAS DACs, they're stupid cheap.

They won't do 56Gb if you're using Infiniband or Mellanox proprietary Ethernet, but they'll happily do 40Gb on the 66xx series.
Less than 3ft for 2 of the runs and then 15' for one run. Nothing over that though.

Those modules still applicable? Not too worried about 56GBe, 40GB is just fine for me so reflashing the cards to generic Mellanox versions is just fine.


also Any 10GBT modules that folks recommend? I have 10GBT everywhere so far and I want to have that one switch that's compatible with everything.
 

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Less than 3ft for 2 of the runs and then 15' for one run. Nothing over that though.

Those modules still applicable? Not too worried about 56GBe, 40GB is just fine for me so reflashing the cards to generic Mellanox versions is just fine.
Yes. I only purchased the the short cables (stacking) and the 15' (5m) cables (servers). They work great. specifically X6559-R6, thick cables so not very flexible. About $8.00 - how much ever you want to pay.
 

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Yes. I only purchased the the short cables (stacking) and the 15' (5m) cables (servers). They work great. specifically X6559-R6, thick cables so not very flexible. About $8.00 - how much ever you want to pay.

I'll need them to curve SLIGHTLY as I do pretty good in my cable management. I think they will do just fine for what I need.

Time to go shopping fo Brocade ICX6650's
 
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