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mintchipmadness

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Hello All,
I have an ICX7250-48P and I am trying find equivalent fans (new) to replace the old stock ones (Nidec). I tried to find the 3 wire Foxconn PIA040H12P but unfortunately all I can find are refurbished ones or 4 wire. What is everyone else replacing their fans with and still keeping the air flow the same? I decided to start looking for equivalent fans and the Delta FFB0412SHN-F00 appears close enough in specs (a little bit lower in air flow/pressure) and is available to purchase. Thank you for your help.
 
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RoachedCoach

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mintchipmadness said:
Hello All,
I have an ICX7250-48P and I am trying find equivalent fans (new) to replace the old stock ones (Nidec). I tried to find the 3 wire Foxconn PIA040H12P but unfortunately all I can find are refurbished ones or 4 wire. What is everyone else replacing their fans with and still keeping the air flow the same? I decided to start looking for equivalent fans and the Delta FFB0412SHN-F00 appears close enough in specs (a little bit lower in air flow/pressure) and is available to purchase. Thank you for your help.
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Here's what I did

 
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Kahooli

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mintchipmadness said:
Hello All,
I have an ICX7250-48P and I am trying find equivalent fans (new) to replace the old stock ones (Nidec). I tried to find the 3 wire Foxconn PIA040H12P but unfortunately all I can find are refurbished ones or 4 wire. What is everyone else replacing their fans with and still keeping the air flow the same? I decided to start looking for equivalent fans and the Delta FFB0412SHN-F00 appears close enough in specs (a little bit lower in air flow/pressure) and is available to purchase. Thank you for your help.
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nothing wrong with using a 4 wire fan on a 3 wire... just delete the 4th wire.
 
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tazplex

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New here...

I have recently acquired an ICX 7450. Does anyone know if the ICX7400-4X10GF module will negotiate SFP+ transceivers for 1/2.5/5/10G on the switch side, or it's limited to 1/10? I know some of the Mikrotik SFP+ transceivers and possibly Ubiquiti will do it, but not sure if they'll work correctly in the switch or default to 1G.

Thinking I might get lucky as the discontinued ICX7450-32ZP supported 2.5G and hopefully they have the same chipsets, Anyone know? Thanks.
 
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tazplex said:
New here...

I have recently acquired an ICX 7450. Does anyone know if the ICX7400-4X10GF module will negotiate SFP+ transceivers for 1/2.5/5/10G on the switch side, or it's limited to 1/10? I know some of the Mikrotik SFP+ transceivers and possibly Ubiquiti will do it, but not sure if they'll work correctly in the switch or default to 1G.

Thinking I might get lucky as the discontinued ICX7450-32ZP supported 2.5G and hopefully they have the same chipsets, Anyone know? Thanks.
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You’ll need to search the thread for which mgig SFPs have worked. The switch itself is only aware of 1/10g. SFPs that support other speeds have worked, but the switch will class it as a 10g port.
 
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56ip1234

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I recently acquired a few 7150s, specifically a 7150-24P and two 7150-C12Ps. None of the units included rack ears.

For the 7150-24P I used the "PhyinLan Rack Mount Kit Universal Adjustable 19 Inch Rack Ears for HP/ProCurve/Aruba/OfficeConnect/HPE and Other Switches". They are not a perfect fit, but with some patience and iterative screw tightening, they are firmly connected. I used 1/4" long #6-32 screws with a single washer. The 7150-24P does not have a lot of clearance for the SFP+ cages so be careful not to use too long of screws.

For the 7150-C12Ps I used the "MokerLink Rack Mount Kit for 10.6-inch Switches". It is easier to connect than the PhyinLan kit since it is more of a universal fit. The 7150-C12Ps use M4-0.7 screws. I used 10 mm screws with a washer and had no issues. The 7150-C12P has more internal clearance.

Go figure out why Ruckus used non-metric screws on the 24P and metric screws on the C12P. That threw me for a bit of a loop.

Now they are happily racked and acting as a stack.
 
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jameseck

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Hi,
I have two 6450s configured in a stack.
1/2/3 on switch1 and 2/2/3 on switch2 are connected via fiber. The two switches and the stack have been working flawlessly for about 2 years.
Well, two days ago, the fiber decided to die, so the stack port links were showing as down.
Today I replaced the fiber and both ports 1/2/3 and 2/2/3 are now showing as up @10ge.
However, switch1 shows it's "alone" and switch2 is "member".
I've tried re-running "stack secure-setup" on switch1 but it never really does anything besides trying to discover topology.
I assumed that once I fixed the broken link, the stack would be reformed. I've tried powercycling both switches, didn't help.

Now I'm wondering how to fix this. Are there any other commands I can try to resolve this? or should I just factory-reset switch2 and run the stack secure-setup again and hope it configures correctly?
 
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hereforthecomeups911

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i am just now starting to play with acls, took me a bit to go from no vlans very simple 1gb charter cable --> pfsense --> mikrotik l2 switch with zero vlans, to currently 5 vlans, cable modem terminated on switch, pfsense router on stick, separate dhcp server, grabbed Ruckus R710 x 2 for 140...

if one configures acl's very tightly is there not less and less reason to use pfsense ? i suppose the crypto card i have in my D-1528 1u pfsense (8960) is needed less and less as i continue to take the load off pfsense removing dhcp first and basically seems like i wont have any reason for pfsense's firewall..

at which point, i can maybe configure it as a live packet analyzer with suricata, snort, and all the other sec packages??

i have a ICX7250-24P, i use 2x Arctic 4028 15k fans, where at 6V it is 5-10 dB quieter than the foxconn fans. i used a wired cutter and snipped out the chassis fan guard so it is a hole behind the exhaust fans, and that was a massive airflow improvement // temp decrease -- i ended up adding 40mm black fan grille over the rear of the chassis and it actually looks very tidy and nice .. i am now considering a 40mm hole saw and making a 3rd hole so I can maybe use 3x 12-14ish cfm fans.

i am not there yet, as i have alot of acls to add, they are a pita.... like thinking about the packet exiting and configuring for that..

has anyone completely switched and now has no use for a pfsense firewall?

i didnt think BGP would be something I would even really think about but now i am bummed the icx7250 does not have that.

does anyone have a recommendation for 2-5gb throughput edge device that isnt too expensive, that can do bgp ?
 
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hereforthecomeups911 said:
if one configures acl's very tightly is there not less and less reason to use pfsense ?
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Switch level ACL's are not a replacement for a real firewall that can do inspection. Also, the switch can't do NAT which you need since you almost certainly have only a single public IP address and multiple LAN devices sharing it.
 
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MrGuvernment

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As noted, pfsense and a perimeter device in general has more options and more security and tools vs an L3 switch. Think of it more like they compliment each other and each have their strengths and weaknesses.
 
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hereforthecomeups911 said:
i am just now starting to play with acls, took me a bit to go from no vlans very simple 1gb charter cable --> pfsense --> mikrotik l2 switch with zero vlans, to currently 5 vlans, cable modem terminated on switch, pfsense router on stick, separate dhcp server, grabbed Ruckus R710 x 2 for 140...

if one configures acl's very tightly is there not less and less reason to use pfsense ? i suppose the crypto card i have in my D-1528 1u pfsense (8960) is needed less and less as i continue to take the load off pfsense removing dhcp first and basically seems like i wont have any reason for pfsense's firewall..

at which point, i can maybe configure it as a live packet analyzer with suricata, snort, and all the other sec packages??

i have a ICX7250-24P, i use 2x Arctic 4028 15k fans, where at 6V it is 5-10 dB quieter than the foxconn fans. i used a wired cutter and snipped out the chassis fan guard so it is a hole behind the exhaust fans, and that was a massive airflow improvement // temp decrease -- i ended up adding 40mm black fan grille over the rear of the chassis and it actually looks very tidy and nice .. i am now considering a 40mm hole saw and making a 3rd hole so I can maybe use 3x 12-14ish cfm fans.

i am not there yet, as i have alot of acls to add, they are a pita.... like thinking about the packet exiting and configuring for that..

has anyone completely switched and now has no use for a pfsense firewall?

i didnt think BGP would be something I would even really think about but now i am bummed the icx7250 does not have that.

does anyone have a recommendation for 2-5gb throughput edge device that isnt too expensive, that can do bgp ?
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I doubt charter residential cable will allow you to peer BGP with them...
 
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zeroturnpete

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Question: how would I go about reinstalling secondary and primary images of a 6610? Just purchased a unit that came with none installed, is it a goner?
 
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BCSwitch

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Hello,

Just got a pair of 6650s, did the firmware upgrade using the guide (bootloader prompt and tftp). Everything seem to be fine except after the switches boot from the factory reset I get a "TFTP session timed out" message at the prompt every 30 seconds or so. I did try to clear the serverip (setenv serverip) but it made no difference... Looks like it is still trying to communicate with the TFTP server. Any ideas why? Thank you!
 

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BCSwitch said:
Just got a pair of 6650s, did the firmware upgrade using the guide (bootloader prompt and tftp). Everything seem to be fine except after the switches boot from the factory reset I get a "TFTP session timed out" message at the prompt every 30 seconds or so. I did try to clear the serverip (setenv serverip) but it made no difference... Looks like it is still trying to communicate with the TFTP server. Any ideas why? Thank you!
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No, that is expected and noted in the guide

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Now we turn off the DHCP client, so it doesn't automatically grab an IP and look for a TFTP config (the cause of the earlier timeout messages):

ip dhcp-client disable
 
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BCSwitch

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NablaSquaredG said:
No, that is expected and noted in the guide

Code: 
Now we turn off the DHCP client, so it doesn't automatically grab an IP and look for a TFTP config (the cause of the earlier timeout messages):

ip dhcp-client disable
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D'oh, I guess I should have read it further... Thanks for the reply!
 
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