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Brocade ICX Series (cheap & powerful 10gbE/40gbE switching)

charles3ct

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I can license them, just be aware the copper version (the vdx6740t) draws significant power, it's first gen 10gbase-T PHY, so like a few watts per port. I think they idle around 180w but I don't have any numbers written down from when I had one. also not quiet

I just received a VDX 6740 - Rethinking that I might have taken the wrong pill here - Either way I am going to get to learn something out of it.

I have a pair of them - pretty clean units - only has the 16 Licenses for 10Gb would like to hear about options please.
 

Lone Wolf

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Was able to update primary successfully but still having trouble with 'update_uboot'. Switch still doesn't seem to be able to see the TFTP server when in u-boot. Do you know if it's possible to update uboot through the GUI as well? Would primary flash boot sequence be the correct process (Configure>System>Boot Sequence)?
Hmmm... are you able to run the other commands properly? 'setenv uboot ICX64xx/kxz10105.bin' works without error? After I updated the Primary in the webui and rebooted, I was able to run those commands. I didn't see a way to update uboot through the webui but since the console commands worked I didn't need to worry about it. If you updated Primary through your TFTP then I assume it's not a firewall issue. You've run 'reset' to reboot the switch after updating the Primary?
 

sdyoung

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Hmmm... are you able to run the other commands properly? 'setenv uboot ICX64xx/kxz10105.bin' works without error? After I updated the Primary in the webui and rebooted, I was able to run those commands. I didn't see a way to update uboot through the webui but since the console commands worked I didn't need to worry about it. If you updated Primary through your TFTP then I assume it's not a firewall issue. You've run 'reset' to reboot the switch after updating the Primary?
The 'setenv' commands have always worked on mine, even before flashing the new primary image. It just was never able to connect to/ping the TFTP server which I assumed was an issue with the TFTP server/Windows Firewall but that doesn't seem to be the case since no issues flashing via the GUI. So far, I've flashed new primary/secondary and ran 'reload' to reboot the switch.
Code:
ICX6450-48P Router>show flash
Stack unit 1:
  Compressed Pri Code size = 9871112, Version:08.0.30uT313 (ICX64R08030u.bin)
  Compressed Sec Code size = 8563580, Version:08.0.30uT311 (ICX64S08030u.bin)
  Compressed Boot-Monitor Image size = 512, Version:07.4.00T310
  Code Flash Free Space = 33636352
 

sdyoung

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And no issues pinging from either device when switch is booted in the OS.
Code:
ICX6450-48P Router>ping 192.168.1.123
Sending 1, 16-byte ICMP Echo to 192.168.1.123, timeout 5000 msec, TTL 64
Type Control-c to abort
Reply from 192.168.1.123   : bytes=16 time=1ms TTL=128
Success rate is 100 percent (1/1), round-trip min/avg/max=1/1/1 ms.
Code:
Pinging 192.168.1.150 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.150: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.150: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.150:
    Packets: Sent = 2, Received = 2, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms
 

Lone Wolf

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The 'setenv' commands have always worked on mine, even before flashing the new primary image. It just was never able to connect to/ping the TFTP server which I assumed was an issue with the TFTP server/Windows Firewall but that doesn't seem to be the case since no issues flashing via the GUI. So far, I've flashed new primary/secondary and ran 'reload' to reboot the switch.
Hmmm. Well that's about the limits of what I know about the switch lol. You'll have to wait until one of the more knowledgeable members chimes in. I wish I could be better help!

I've still got the old 07.4.00dT311 version as my Secondary. I wonder if I am able to reboot into the Secondary? Not that it would help you out any, but if someone else runs into the same problem I can always boot into the old version to find the proper commands.
 

sdyoung

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Hmmm. Well that's about the limits of what I know about the switch lol. You'll have to wait until one of the more knowledgeable members chimes in. I wish I could be better help!

I've still got the old 07.4.00dT311 version as my Secondary. I wonder if I am able to reboot into the Secondary? Not that it would help you out any, but if someone else runs into the same problem I can always boot into the old version to find the proper commands.
No worries, I appreciate all the help @Lone Wolf!
 
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LodeRunner

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No worries, I appreciate all the help @Lone Wolf!
I'm going to ask a question you may have already answered and I just missed it, but is your ethernet cable plugged into the actual management port, or one of the switch ports?

The boot environment will only be able to use the management ethernet port.
 

sdyoung

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I'm going to ask a question you may have already answered and I just missed it, but is your ethernet cable plugged into the actual management port, or one of the switch ports?

The boot environment will only be able to use the management ethernet port.
Yup, console cable plugged into console port and ethernet cable plugged into management port below.
 

LodeRunner

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Yup, console cable plugged into console port and ethernet cable plugged into management port below.
OK. From the CLI, usually if the switch can ping the TFTP host, but TFTP isn't working (and Windows Firewall is completely off) then it's possibly a misconfiguration of the TFTP server itself. For example, mine likes to forget the root folder I have the firmware files in, so I have to remember to updated it; on occasion it's bound itself to the wrong interface (when my workstation used to have Hyper-V enabled, it would for some reason prefer the HV NIC that was not configured to an interface rather than the PHY). I've also had problems with TFTPd64 when files I want are not in the root folder, so I would move them up one level and the issue would go away.
 

Epoxymonk

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Hello,

Thanks to this thread I've ordered an ICX7250 off of Ebay! The switch came running firmware version 08.0.90d and I'm not sure what version I should upgrade to. Fohdeesha's guide has 08.0.95f but I that there is a newer version, 09.0.10b that includes the 7250. Which should I upgrade to?

Thanks!
 

fohdeesha

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And no issues pinging from either device when switch is booted in the OS.
Code:
ICX6450-48P Router>ping 192.168.1.123
Sending 1, 16-byte ICMP Echo to 192.168.1.123, timeout 5000 msec, TTL 64
Type Control-c to abort
Reply from 192.168.1.123   : bytes=16 time=1ms TTL=128
Success rate is 100 percent (1/1), round-trip min/avg/max=1/1/1 ms.
Code:
Pinging 192.168.1.150 with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 192.168.1.150: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
Reply from 192.168.1.150: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64

Ping statistics for 192.168.1.150:
    Packets: Sent = 2, Received = 2, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms

if it's pinging from the OS but not the bootloader, I highly suspect you're either mistyping something IP related in the bootloader, the cable is plugged into a regular port, or a lot less likely but possible, your router has a restriction on clients where only clients that have fetched a DHCP address are allowed on the network and static assignments are blocked. once it's booted into the OS can you post the output of "show ip int"
 

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Follow @fohdeesha's recommendation if you don't want to beta test for Ruckus or run into corner cases inherent in new firmware.
honestly at this point I'd say 8090+ isn't even to beta yet, boot is still full of python packaging errors and some of the recent bugs they've patched are along the lines of "device eats its own flash alive with spurious writes"
 
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sdyoung

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if it's pinging from the OS but not the bootloader, I highly suspect you're either mistyping something IP related in the bootloader, the cable is plugged into a regular port, or a lot less likely but possible, your router has a restriction on clients where only clients that have fetched a DHCP address are allowed on the network and static assignments are blocked. once it's booted into the OS can you post the output of "show ip int"
Current project for work has me out of town and only home every other weekend but I'll post results next time I'm back. Thanks @fohdeesha
 

Paul Mew

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Hi, I'm very late to the 6450 party and I'm struggling! First off, huge thanks to fohdeesha and everyone else who allows people like me to stand on their shoulders.... it's very much appreciated.

Currently, I'm running an HP 2910al with 10g modules, so I'm not totally unversed with console etc, but I'm still doing things "by numbers"

Following the guide, I've hit problems with TFTP I believe....... I've trawled the forum and I think I've done all I can so I'm looking for inspiration please.

Hopefully the attached screen grabs will show where I am............

My router is pfsense at...................... 10.10.10.1
My W11 machine with TFTP is at..... 10.10.10.15
My 6450 is at.......................................10.10.10.98

Windows firewall is off. My AVG av is off.

From PUTTY, I can ping the router and the W11 machine. Should I be able to ping the 6450 from W11 via a cmd prompt? Because I can't.

When I issue the update_primary command, it goes into a ICMP Host redirect loop which I can only stop with a "control c"

TIA

Paul
 

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adman_c

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When I spliced my USB it had red green white and black.

Using t568b coloring on the jack


USB. Keystone

White is Green
Green is green/white
Black is blue
Red is ignored

Hop in putty, securecrt or whatever you prefer. Just remember 9600, N ,8, 1
Well damn. That was easy as heck. Thanks for posting (and also to the others who worked this out). Anybody want an unused Brocade mini-usb to serial cable?
 

fohdeesha

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Hi, I'm very late to the 6450 party and I'm struggling! First off, huge thanks to fohdeesha and everyone else who allows people like me to stand on their shoulders.... it's very much appreciated.

Currently, I'm running an HP 2910al with 10g modules, so I'm not totally unversed with console etc, but I'm still doing things "by numbers"

Following the guide, I've hit problems with TFTP I believe....... I've trawled the forum and I think I've done all I can so I'm looking for inspiration please.

Hopefully the attached screen grabs will show where I am............

My router is pfsense at...................... 10.10.10.1
My W11 machine with TFTP is at..... 10.10.10.15
My 6450 is at.......................................10.10.10.98

Windows firewall is off. My AVG av is off.

From PUTTY, I can ping the router and the W11 machine. Should I be able to ping the 6450 from W11 via a cmd prompt? Because I can't.

When I issue the update_primary command, it goes into a ICMP Host redirect loop which I can only stop with a "control c"

TIA

Paul
you have something strange going on on your network if something is replying for 10.10.10.15 with ICMP redirects, something on your network is answering for .15 and trying to advertise a better path. maybe reboot your router and windows 11 machine. you should absolutely be able to ping the icx from w11 and vice versa