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Brocade ICX Series (cheap & powerful 10gbE/40gbE switching)

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kroy

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Seems my brocade adventure just won't end.

Got a 6610 today. Model number is ICX-6610-24-PE, Version:07.3.02T7f5

Before I did anything else loaded it up. And there is absolutely no signs of this switch supporting PoE. Every other switch mentions initializing PoE on booting.

Code:
ICX6610-24 Switch#show inline power
ICX6610-24 Switch#
and

Code:
ICX6610-24 Switch(config-if-e1000-1/1/1)#inline power
Command not applicable for non-POE port 1/1/1.
or

Code:
ICX6610-24 Switch(config-mif-1/1/1-1/1/24)#inline power
set inline power cannot be done on this device with stack id 1 and poe slot 1!
At this point I'm not sure if I should start up another RMA or try upgrading the switch. It's got the L2 firmware on it right now, plus it does appear to actually have one license on it, ICX6610-PREM-LIC-SW, which I don't want to risk wiping with a firmware upgrade (in case I have to RMA)

@fohdeesha do these things need the L3 software on them to support PoE?

Edit, and again, think I've been bamboozled. This thing only has a single REVA 250W power supply. Don't they need the 1000W supplies to support POE?
 
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BobTB

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I went beserk and bought 5 ICX swithces on ebay in last week, One 6610-24 , two 6430-48p, one 6450-24p and one 6430-24. All have BASE_SOFT_PACKAGE.


What is actually missing in 6430 models with this license? I know they are only 1GB but this still works for me great.

Stacking 6610 with 6450 does not work right?

Today I just received the first one, 6430-24 which was with its config still not reset, all ports except one was disabled, I used the guide in this thread to reset it and all ports work now. I just had to make a serial cable to access the console - this was a pain :) I still think that for 50€ shipped, I could not have gotten a better switch with 24 ports.

I intend to completely replace my dumb swithces and all poe injectors and stuff all over the house and lab,
 

BeTeP

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I have also bought a 7250 with a burnt out POE board recently - I sent it back.
Before sending it back for a moment I considered trying to repair it. One of the PD69208's was visibly burnt but I only needed like a dozen of POE ports and I was hoping to get at least a couple of other seemingly intact PD69208 chips (each responsible for 8 ports) working again.

So I downloaded a few datasheets and appnotes for the pd69200 + 6x pd69208 chipset. Maybe someone would find these useful.

PD69208m and PD69200 datasheet
Application Note AN-211 - Designing an IEEE 802.3af/802.3at/802.3btCompliant PD69208 48-Port PoE System
PD69200 serial communication protocol user guide
 

fohdeesha

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@Freebsd1976 it has a developer/prerelease bootloader on it, I can fix it over a teamviewer session or you can return it, up to you


@kroy it sounds like indeed they sent you a non-poe model, poe models will identify themselves as poe and will have 1kw PSUs. edit: just saw the model number you posted, that is indeed a non-poe model

@BobTB all 6430 models are L2 only, they don't do l3 and there's no license available for them. if you need licenses for any of the others PM me

you actually can stack a 6610 and a 6450, they call it mixed stacking, instructions are in the stacking pdf included in the firmware download from my guide. I'm not sure why you would need to make a serial cable for the 6430, it (and all the other switches you ordered) use the standard cicsco style rj45 pinout and cables are 5 bucks: https://www.amazon.com/HDE-Serial-Ethernet-Rollover-Console/dp/B00979DMSM
 
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BobTB

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@BobTB I'm not sure why you would need to make a serial cable for the 6430, it (and all the other switches you ordered) use the standard cicsco style rj45 pinout and cables are 5 bucks: https://www.amazon.com/HDE-Serial-Ethernet-Rollover-Console/dp/B00979DMSM
Thank you for the info. As far as for the cable, it was friday afternoon, I got the switch deliverd, and could not wait for a week or so to get the cable from amazon. As I never had such a cable I just had to make it to try to get to the switch somehow :)
 

juey

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Seems my brocade adventure just won't end.

Got a 6610 today. Model number is ICX-6610-24-PE, Version:07.3.02T7f5

Before I did anything else loaded it up. And there is absolutely no signs of this switch supporting PoE. Every other switch mentions initializing PoE on booting.

Code:
ICX6610-24 Switch#show inline power
ICX6610-24 Switch#
and

Code:
ICX6610-24 Switch(config-if-e1000-1/1/1)#inline power
Command not applicable for non-POE port 1/1/1.
or

Code:
ICX6610-24 Switch(config-mif-1/1/1-1/1/24)#inline power
set inline power cannot be done on this device with stack id 1 and poe slot 1!
At this point I'm not sure if I should start up another RMA or try upgrading the switch. It's got the L2 firmware on it right now, plus it does appear to actually have one license on it, ICX6610-PREM-LIC-SW, which I don't want to risk wiping with a firmware upgrade (in case I have to RMA)

@fohdeesha do these things need the L3 software on them to support PoE?

Edit, and again, think I've been bamboozled. This thing only has a single REVA 250W power supply. Don't they need the 1000W supplies to support POE?
The ICX6610-24-PE is the non PoE model.
What you need is the ICX6610-24P-PE model.
 

infoMatt

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lol <link removed>
Yea.. smart move...
The funniest part is the last sentence: "or trade for an Unifi switch"... sure, you're swapping a full L3 switch with horsepower to spare with a tplink-on-a-fancy-case-and-premium-pricetag "dumb" managed L2 switch, known for their recurring problem with passive 24V PoE activating even when not requested, that doesn't have 10G ports except for the 48P... but hey, you've got that point'n'clicky Java webinterface... :(

Don't shoot me on that, I've got two Ubiquiti AP currently providing WiFi in my house... but let's be honest, they are more on the consumer level than what they want you to think about... And I'm having "buyer's remorse", thinking that I might have just bought two TPlink and flashed 'em with OpenWRT, I could have saved some money... oh well... :rolleyes:
 

fohdeesha

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if it's who I think it is, I gave him licences almost a full year ago, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt and assuming he just forgot he's supposed to delete them if reselling (please don't leave nasty messages on his post, even if he is being a dick on purpose it won't solve anything)
 

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Hey everyone,

I know the 7450-48p with premium license can do BGP... anyone know if these licenses are still available also?
I want to connect my Azure Stack home kits (2) with 40GB to the switch and then use them as the top of rack switches with BGP..
 

fohdeesha

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the licenses for the entire icx7xxx are honor based as in they don't actually exist, you just enter an unlock command. I'm not a big fan of the 7450, they usually cost a lot more than the 6610, and no matter how you configure it, it has barely half of the high speed I/O as the 6610 - for instance occupying all 3 expansion slots on the 7450 can get you 2x 40gbe and 4x 10gbe, whereas the 6610 comes out of the box with 2x 40gbe and 16x 10gbE
 

fohdeesha

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just follow this guide to update its firmware ICX7250 - Fohdeesha Docs

substitute the filenames with the 7450 image names which you can download for free from ruckus. to license it type "license install perpetual 1" and hit tab a bunch, it'll show you all the arguments you can supply to add all the licenses
 

MoMeanMugs

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I marked mine with a note on it not to sell (never intend to) once Fohdeesha helped me out. I don't want to put him in the fire for helping us out. Suggest others do the same...