AMD EPYC 7302p+ Supermicro H11SSL-i version 2

[RolloZ170]

Almost 100% Profit for them alright ...

no, also the chinese street seller has profit, factory price is lower than 2000.
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[luckylinux]

My friend, we have this combination. Currently, I recommend the combination h11ssl-i+amd epyc 7532

I see, you have that Combination with the RAM Indeed.

Which I guess for around 112 EUR extra (Compared to the 552 EUR of the 7402 Combination without RAM) is probably better to get anyways in case my own RAM doesn't work (only 2 sticks of 16GB DDR4 RDIMM, but enough to get started I guess).

This one, right ? I hope the Prices hold until next Month at least ...

Bitte entschuldigen Sie die Störung...

 

[RolloZ170]

But anyway that doesn't answer the question about the Quality and if the H11SSL-i Rev. 2.0

afaik 2.0 is not a new design, just other BIOS chip, other FW, some other modified parts and the sticker with "2.0" on it.

 

[RolloZ170]

Meaning it's safe & reliable ?

H11DSi 2.0 don't support PCIe 4.0 - weak VRMs.
but the new chinese H12D has to proof future support (reliable, BIOS, warranty)

 

[RolloZ170]

Not sure I need PCIe 4.0. What about weak VRMs ?

cheap 4u SC846/SC847 Chassis

in a chassis with jet engine FANs + Air shroud you should be fine with the VRMs.

 

[chlastakov]

How is that Answering my Question exactly ?

It's not, just wanted to post update. Maybe give you alternative? I'm considering buying H12SSL, this would be for $490

 

[chlastakov]

As I said the plan fell apart because by the Time I got the Month's Salary the Chassis went out of Stock ...

And I was NOT planning on leaving the Backup Server ON 24/7 let alone with an EPYC Motherboard

Probably don't understand enough. Why would you consider Epyc board for backup server at all? The electricity cost would not worth it I believe.

 

[luckylinux]

Canada here
This is what i was looking at as well, i was hoping to put 64gig of ram into it. I'm in the same boat... trying to save up as well. Fingers crossed for the both of us.

Seems like the Supermicro H11SSL-i + 7402 Combination increased in Price but the Supermicro H11SSL-i + 7532 Combination did NOT .

 

[i386]

Why would you consider Epyc board for backup server at all?

Nvme backup server

 

[luckylinux]

Any News on the Supermicro H11SSL-i Rev. 2 having similar Issues to the Supermicro H12SSL early Revisions which were affected by early Failures (I saw some Posts on another Thread about that IIRC) ?

 

[chlastakov]

Nvme backup server

Why would anyone need backup on NVMe?

 

[i386]

Why would anyone need backup on NVMe?

for ultra fast recovery

 

[luckylinux]

I was contacted about that new MB and looks good.

South H12D-8D SP3 motherboard performance=Supermicro h12ssl-i support 7002-7003

SThe 12D-8D motherboard adopts ATX board type, 14 layer PCB design, equipped with 9+5-phase 60A DrMOS power supply, and has 2 sets of EPS 8Pin CPU power supply interfaces.

The specific expandability of this motherboard is as follows:

Memory:
8 x DDR4 (1DPC), up to 3200MT/s;

PCIe slot:
4 x PCIe 4.0 x 16.

Storage:
3× M.2 2280，PCIe 4.0×4；
3 x SFF-8643 4i, PCIe 4.0 x 4, both support 1/4 SATA III 6Gbps;
4× SATA III 6Gbps

Network:
2 x Intel I226-V, supporting 2.5GbE;
1 x Realtek RTL8201F, supports 100MbE, IPMI management network port, requires BMC module.

Audio:
Guanghua Chip (Shuhua) CJC6811A USB Digital Audio SoC

External I/O:
In board connectors: 1 set of USB-A 5Gbps, 1 set of USB-A 480Mbps;

Rear interface: 1 x VGA (BMC module required), 2 x USB-A 480Mbps, 4 x USB-A 5Gbps, 2 x 2.5GbE RJ45, 1 x 100MbE RJ45 IPMI network port (BMC module required), 2 x audio jacks.

How is that Answering my Question exactly ?

 

[chlastakov]

No, it's not worth it. EPYC is actually more efficient than those Xeon E5 v3/v4 I was eyeing for the Backup Server or my Desktop. The EPYC I think can Idle as low as 60W ...

That would be CPU alone, no? What I read so far, whole system with Epyc would be ~150W. My work machine idles at ~60W which is a lot for bakup server for me.

 

[chlastakov]

Try with 36 HDDs then let's talk about those "big" 60W ... With a Figure of 10W/HDD at a minimum it would be 400W with 36 HDDs. Plus PSU efficiency on top of that, so maybe 450W or so.

Ok, I don't have that needs at home, understand

 

[luckylinux]

AST2500 soldered but no Firmware chip ? ( got no AMI license ? )
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500 EUR for the Motherboard alone.

South H12D-8D SP3 performance=Supermicro h12ssl-i support 7002-7003 With BMC | eBay.de

HUANANZHI H12D-8D sp3 Support amd epyc LGA4094 7642/7713/7763/7532/7702. HUANANZHI H12D-8D. Supermicro X11SCA-F 1151 Pin Single Workstation Motherboard Supports i9-9900K95. SuperMicro X11DPH-I Dual Socket LGA-3647 Motherboard E-ATX Mainboard C621 205W.

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Plus at least another 600 EUR for the CPU.

Bitte entschuldigen Sie die Störung...

Yikes

 

[chlastakov]

Those 6TB SAS HDDs at 30 EUR/piece were too good to pass on. But now it seems that I need to spend a whole lot more in term of Chassis & whatnot. Sigh.

Yes, really nice price. I currently have 6x 18TB in RAIDZ2, which is enough for my needs. Maybe I will upgrade to 8x 18TB now when zpool resize is an option with ZFS 2.3. Have them all inside my working PC which I hardly power off anyway.

 

[Talyrius]

I was contacted about that new MB and looks good.

South H12D-8D SP3 motherboard performance=Supermicro h12ssl-i support 7002-7003

SThe 12D-8D motherboard adopts ATX board type, 14 layer PCB design, equipped with 9+5-phase 60A DrMOS power supply, and has 2 sets of EPS 8Pin CPU power supply interfaces.

The specific expandability of this motherboard is as follows:

Memory:
8 x DDR4 (1DPC), up to 3200MT/s;

PCIe slot:
4 x PCIe 4.0 x 16.

Storage:
3× M.2 2280，PCIe 4.0×4；
3 x SFF-8643 4i, PCIe 4.0 x 4, both support 1/4 SATA III 6Gbps;
4× SATA III 6Gbps

Network:
2 x Intel I226-V, supporting 2.5GbE;
1 x Realtek RTL8201F, supports 100MbE, IPMI management network port, requires BMC module.

Audio:
Guanghua Chip (Shuhua) CJC6811A USB Digital Audio SoC

External I/O:
In board connectors: 1 set of USB-A 5Gbps, 1 set of USB-A 480Mbps;

Rear interface: 1 x VGA (BMC module required), 2 x USB-A 480Mbps, 4 x USB-A 5Gbps, 2 x 2.5GbE RJ45, 1 x 100MbE RJ45 IPMI network port (BMC module required), 2 x audio jacks.

I don't like the connectivity choices they've made here. I'd much rather have all the PCIe slots available to use versus the one additional M.2 slot over the Supermicro boards. It's a terrible tradeoff—and they're not even 22110, so say goodbye to support for most SSD options that provide PLP... Oh, and there definitely should, at least, be another variant available that offers 10GbE instead of 2.5GbE—especially with PCIe slots already being limited.

It also requires an additional BMC module to fully support IPMI. Where is this available from, how much does it cost, and what connectivity does it have (PMBus, I hope)?

IMO, @Tugm4470 is asking far too much for this Huananzhi board as its feature set isn't comparable to other options that are similarly priced and its longevity is in question due to it not being from an established brand with a proven track record of providing good support for their products.

Edit:
To those brave enough to purchase one, please be sure to share your experiences with us. I'm particularly curious about the BIOS functionality it offers.

 

[luckylinux]

china street price ¥ 2000 (300€)

Almost 100% Profit for them alright ...

 

[RolloZ170]

So the H11SSL-i Rev. 2.0 would be a better Deal, even if it doesn't support PCIe 4.0 ? Does it Support AMD EPYC Milan though ?

7001/7002
no Milan.

 

[RolloZ170]

It also requires an additional BMC module to fully support IPMI. Where is this available from, how much does it cost,

+200 yuan but I don't know if it is sold separately
taobao search "H12D"

 

[luckylinux]

But anyway that doesn't answer the question about the Quality and if the H11SSL-i Rev. 2.0 is also plagued by the same Issues that the early Revisions of the H12SSL Rev. 1.0x (???) had.

 

[i386]

That would be CPU alone, no? What I read so far, whole system with Epyc would be ~150W. My work machine idles at ~60W which is a lot for bakup server for me.

Try with 36 HDDs then let's talk about those "big" 60W ... With a Figure of 10W/HDD at a minimum it would be 400W with 36 HDDs. Plus PSU efficiency on top of that, so maybe 450W or so.

I upgraded my fileserver in 2022 from a xeon e5 v4 4core cpu + supermicro x10srl + 1x 32GByte RDIMM to an epyc 7443p 24 core cpu + h12ssl-i + 8x 16GByte rdimms. Chassis (846 with sas 3 expander backplane), 22x 16TByte hdds, raid controller and psu stayed the same.
Difference at the wall were 25-30 Watt more under it's normal load. That's 20more cores, 6 more rdimms (higher clock, but lower capacity), pcie 4.0, 88more pci lanes

 

[chlastakov]

Still I wouldn't go without PCIe4 for new build these days

 

[luckylinux]

afaik 2.0 is not a new design, just other BIOS chip, other FW, some other modified parts and the sticker with "2.0" on it.

Meaning it's safe & reliable ? Or would it be better to get that Unknown Brand (???) H12 Motherboard ?

 

[dasbooter]

Canada here
This is what i was looking at as well, i was hoping to put 64gig of ram into it. I'm in the same boat... trying to save up as well. Fingers crossed for the both of us.

Also Canada here. How did u fair? Interested in similar.

 

[dasbooter]

Still I wouldn't go without PCIe4 for new build these days

Throwing this out there would an EPYC build be able to do part time work as an old fashion gamer lan party? What I mean is could I host several thin clients(Nvidia shields) to play a modern fairly GPU demanding game? This would mean friends would not need to bring there own hardware. Basically a game server.

 

[luckylinux]

H11DSi 2.0 don't support PCIe 4.0 - weak VRMs.

Not sure I need PCIe 4.0. What about weak VRMs ?

but the new chinese H12D has to proof future support (reliable, BIOS, warranty)

Meaning it's Quality is unknown basically, right ?

This is really not my Month though. I just got my Salary and the EPYC Plan is already falling apart. Same with the Plan of getting some cheap 4u SC846/SC847 Chassis to install a bunch of HDDs for the Backup Server.

 

[oudude07]

Does anyone have experience cooling a 7302p in 2U? I'm trying to figure out what cooler would work for this (and also preferably not insanely loud), was looking at a Dynatron A26 or A38. Anyone have any recommendations?