AMD EPYC 7302p+ Supermicro H11SSL-i version 2

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luckylinux

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I upgraded my fileserver in 2022 from a xeon e5 v4 4core cpu + supermicro x10srl + 1x 32GByte RDIMM to an epyc 7443p 24 core cpu + h12ssl-i + 8x 16GByte rdimms. Chassis (846 with sas 3 expander backplane), 22x 16TByte hdds, raid controller and psu stayed the same.
Difference at the wall were 25-30 Watt more under it's normal load. That's 20more cores, 6 more rdimms (higher clock, but lower capacity), pcie 4.0, 88more pci lanes
Yeah but the majority over the Power Consumption of 60W that chlastakov mentioned would be the HDD own Power Consumption. NOT the CPU/Motherboard.
 

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Still I wouldn't go without PCIe4 for new build these days :)
Throwing this out there would an EPYC build be able to do part time work as an old fashion gamer lan party? What I mean is could I host several thin clients(Nvidia shields) to play a modern fairly GPU demanding game? This would mean friends would not need to bring there own hardware. Basically a game server.
 

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Does anyone have experience cooling a 7302p in 2U? I'm trying to figure out what cooler would work for this (and also preferably not insanely loud), was looking at a Dynatron A26 or A38. Anyone have any recommendations?
 

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Does anyone have experience cooling a 7302p in 2U? I'm trying to figure out what cooler would work for this (and also preferably not insanely loud), was looking at a Dynatron A26 or A38. Anyone have any recommendations?
7302P isn't too hard to cool. I have one (1P) in an 826 with a 40mm fan ziptied to a passive 2U heatsink, plus 3x Arctic P8 on the fanwall, using stock air shroud. 47C idle, doesn't throttle under load but gets close. But it is very quiet (with 920SQ).
 
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Throwing this out there would an EPYC build be able to do part time work as an old fashion gamer lan party? What I mean is could I host several thin clients(Nvidia shields) to play a modern fairly GPU demanding game? This would mean friends would not need to bring there own hardware. Basically a game server.
It depends A LOT on the hardware you put into it and what games you expect to play.
This was my own personal experience:

For software, I used Windows 11 Pro running Hyper-V as the host and Windows 11 with Parsec for the VMs and clients.
I used GPU-P to share the GPU with the clients,

For hardware, I used the 7302p and Supermicro H11 in this thread. 256GB of RAM, (2) 1.5Ttb Optane 905P, RTX 3090 ti and HP 640SFP28 Dual 10/25gb. The host was connected to a 10gb port of a Cisco C6800IA-48FPDR (Flashed to C2960x), and each client to the 1 GB ports.
I used a variety of Intel-based SFF computers as clients to leverage hardware decoding.

I ran two Fortnite sessions at 1080p 60fps on medium to low settings.

I also ran four sessions of mixed content: one playing Shantae, the other Fortnite, another playing UMVSC3, and the other playing Cyberpunk.
It was decent, but latency was noticed mainly in Fortnite.

The amount of VRAM required is quite significant.
Some games will detect the hypervisor and refuse to launch, and messing with the virtual displays and Parsec could get frustrating.

I did all this over 2 years ago, it might be better now. Ultimately, it was a fun experiment, but I don't think it's worth the headaches that came with it.
 

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Hello everyone!

I remember reading here long ago about an eBay seller giving a discount to STH members. Anyone knows if it's still valid?

I currently run a X10SLH-F with an E5-2697A v4 and 128GB DDR4-2400. It has a pair of PCI-E drives and 6 SATA SSDs. It runs around 8 VMs and power consumption is around 150W average under normal load, it goes over 200W at times of higher load.

I'm looking to increase single thread performance and add a 10Gbit NIC while keeping power consumption more or less equal.

The low power option would be a Asrock X470UD4 with Ryzen 5 5500 but this only has 3 PCI-E slots and would be a bit constrained, and DDR4 ECC UDIMM is still too expensive for my taste.

Thus I'm considering an Epyc system, RAM is dirt cheap and so are the CPUs, only the motherboards are relatively expensive.

Xeon E-2200 have more motherboard options but would deliver less performance and I would still be limited by RAM price.

What do you suggest?

BTW I'll have this in a 4U chassis, are there any SP3 colling options that don't sound like a jet engine? The current E5 has a Noctua cooler that is almost silent.
 

Sacrilego

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Hello everyone!

I remember reading here long ago about an eBay seller giving a discount to STH members. Anyone knows if it's still valid?

I currently run a X10SLH-F with an E5-2697A v4 and 128GB DDR4-2400. It has a pair of PCI-E drives and 6 SATA SSDs. It runs around 8 VMs and power consumption is around 150W average under normal load, it goes over 200W at times of higher load.

I'm looking to increase single thread performance and add a 10Gbit NIC while keeping power consumption more or less equal.

The low power option would be a Asrock X470UD4 with Ryzen 5 5500 but this only has 3 PCI-E slots and would be a bit constrained, and DDR4 ECC UDIMM is still too expensive for my taste.

Thus I'm considering an Epyc system, RAM is dirt cheap and so are the CPUs, only the motherboards are relatively expensive.

Xeon E-2200 have more motherboard options but would deliver less performance and I would still be limited by RAM price.

What do you suggest?

BTW I'll have this in a 4U chassis, are there any SP3 colling options that don't sound like a jet engine? The current E5 has a Noctua cooler that is almost silent.
You can send a message to Tugm4470. He's an active member here. I'm not sure if the shipping discount is still valid but he can answer that question and suggest some options for you.

My first EPYC system was this exact combo purchased from Tugm4470. I bought the cooler from him as well. It's not the quietest cooler, but it's not annoyingly loud either.

I've built a few more EPYC builds, and it's not been easy finding proper SP3 coolers. TR4 coolers, such as the Noctua NH-U14S TR4-SP3, are compatible. However, they're mainly for Threadripper CPUs, where the socket orientation is rotated 90 degrees with the fans covering the RAM and getting very close to the first PCIe slot.

I settled on using this ARCTIC Freezer 4U-M cooler. It's not the greatest cooler, but it gets the job done.

The Good:
  • 7302p's temps under control
  • Very quiet
  • proper orientation for SP3 sockets
  • inexpensive
  • Good Ram Clearance
  • Thermal paste included
The Bad:
  • Feels Cheap
  • Fans are not easily replaceable
  • Not pretty, very plain looking (Doesn't matter to me, but some people would like RGB at least)
  • The socket assembly is awkward-looking, almost feels wrong.
The Ugly:
  • Screwing into the socket feels forced
  • Instructions not included, only web.
  • Assembly instructions are very confusing.
 
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Thanks, I'll contact him.

Regarding performance and power consumption, do you have any insights compared to an E5v4 system?

This E5-2697Av4 was an upgrade from an E5-2680v2 and power consumption was cut by around 30W and performance is better.
 

Sacrilego

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Thanks, I'll contact him.

Regarding performance and power consumption, do you have any insights compared to an E5v4 system?

This E5-2697Av4 was an upgrade from an E5-2680v2 and power consumption was cut by around 30W and performance is better.
I have on the test bench right now an EPYC 7282 paired with a Gigabyte MZ32-AR0 , a 25gb OCP NIC, and 256gb of RAM.
It's currently going through some burn-in and memory tests before I move it into a case. It's going to replace an old dual E5-2678v3.

I can run a few tests while I have it on the bench and measure power using a kill-a-watt.
Is there anything in particular you would like to see tested while I have it out?

You can also see some numbers and tests I've done comparing it to a dual E5-2680 v2 setup in a post earlier in this same thread: Post 37
 

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I’ve bought a CPU & motherboard combo from tugm4470 (without mentioning STH) and he looked after me on price and getting it into the country without hassles also. I would definitely recommend buying from him too.
 
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Glock24

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Well average CPU usage of current server is around 10%, so low load power consumption would be interesting.
Also I'm interested in single thread performance against Broadwell Xeons.
 

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My friends, currently we need to use AMD EPYC 7003 series CPUs. I recommend AMD EPYC 7513 CPU processor 32 cores 64 threads 2.6GHz up to 3.65GHz 200W. We will reach 120 brand new inventory units for this CPU, and our current price has decreased. The current price is 490 US dollars. It is brand new and has not been locked to any carrier. If you want to purchase in bulk, you can communicate with me
 

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What ??

Its the best cooler for SP3 by a mile to fit into 4U chassis. Its decently quiet and generates a ton of airflow.
Oh, I agree that it works well, it's quiet, and you can not beat that price. It's just that there aren't that many more options out there.
 

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what is the going good price for ECC-DDR4 ram nowaday? Would be nice to get at least 32GB if not 64GB sticks for good price!
 

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My friends, currently we need to use AMD EPYC 7003 series CPUs. I recommend AMD EPYC 7513 CPU processor 32 cores 64 threads 2.6GHz up to 3.65GHz 200W. We will reach 120 brand new inventory units for this CPU, and our current price has decreased. The current price is 490 US dollars. It is brand new and has not been locked to any carrier. If you want to purchase in bulk, you can communicate with me
how are you handling tariffs when shipping items to the US? Might be interested in buying some stuff but I don’t really understand if I’ll need to pay the tariffs or if you’ve figured something else out.
 

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how are you handling tariffs when shipping items to the US? Might be interested in buying some stuff but I don’t really understand if I’ll need to pay the tariffs or if you’ve figured something else out.
Hello my friend, currently the seller needs to clear customs, but we can provide you with a low price declaration so that you can avoid paying more fees
 

Tugm4470

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how are you handling tariffs when shipping items to the US? Might be interested in buying some stuff but I don’t really understand if I’ll need to pay the tariffs or if you’ve figured something else out.
At present, we provide customers with low price declarations, and buyers do not need to pay any other fees
 
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