Yup, X9SCM as a example of what you should be paying and watching board prices carefully, not that it accepts the CPU's
Intel Xeon E5-2670 Deal and Price Tracking
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Used X9D's are regularly listed at full retail price. I do not understand fleabay pricing. I just accept it and move on.
So, if we are assuming that the E5-2670s have dropped so low because one or more bigger server farms has dumped them on the used market, shouldn't there also be a number of motherboards or barebones systems being released that used to house these CPUs?
It just seems weird that these used CPUs are so cheap and plentiful and finding corresponding used motherboards at a decent price is so difficult.
It just seems weird that these used CPUs are so cheap and plentiful and finding corresponding used motherboards at a decent price is so difficult.
DBA got a ton of systems recently if I recall, all are capable of these CPUs so possibly those.
I don't know much about supercomptuers but I doubt when you're running 1000+ physical cpus you're going to be running on intel or supermicro motherboards...
Support for ECC RAM tends to be a CPU-designated feature so it's kind of a given when utilizing a 2P board since the E5 product family supports it. Most 2P server grade boards that I've seen take both ECC + buffered or unbuffered DIMM or just standard RAM.
If you need some boards and don't want to wait for the odd Supermicro deal to pop up, the Tyan S7050GM4NR is going for 250 OBO on ebay, seller convertechs-mike. I was able to pick 5 up for 186/ea, new in box, presumably if they have a warranty then it's good for 3 years. It has quad LAN(2 i350 and 2 82574L) + IPMI shared with one of the 82574L ports. Not ideal but whatever. 10 SATA ports, 5 PCIe and 1 PCI. Although, one of the PCIe is a x4 connector, kind of dumb, no higher-ish-end HBA, HCA, or networking adapter is compatible with that slot, so I don't count it really...unless you put an PCIe SSD in it. It also has the 7 PWM fan headers which is perfect, the 836 and 846 chassis I'm using, combined with CPU fans, have exactly that many.
There's a few annoyances though with this board, if you put it in a Supermicro chassis. The CPU power connectors are in more irregular positions, it wouldnt be a problem but Supermicro PDUs are practically catered to their boards. So, in my case I had to cut the ziptie and was able to get enough length from one of the connectors, but, I still had to buy some extensions for the other.
The other thing is the front panel header is at the very bottom of the board. On SM boards it's on the right side, in the middle, ideal for any of their chassis. But in the 836 chassis, the FPIO is on the right side, putting it way on the other side and out of reach. So, I had to buy some of these: NEW Lot of 5 SuperMicro CBL084L 16-Pin Front Control Split Connector Cable
If you need some boards and don't want to wait for the odd Supermicro deal to pop up, the Tyan S7050GM4NR is going for 250 OBO on ebay, seller convertechs-mike. I was able to pick 5 up for 186/ea, new in box, presumably if they have a warranty then it's good for 3 years. It has quad LAN(2 i350 and 2 82574L) + IPMI shared with one of the 82574L ports. Not ideal but whatever. 10 SATA ports, 5 PCIe and 1 PCI. Although, one of the PCIe is a x4 connector, kind of dumb, no higher-ish-end HBA, HCA, or networking adapter is compatible with that slot, so I don't count it really...unless you put an PCIe SSD in it. It also has the 7 PWM fan headers which is perfect, the 836 and 846 chassis I'm using, combined with CPU fans, have exactly that many.
There's a few annoyances though with this board, if you put it in a Supermicro chassis. The CPU power connectors are in more irregular positions, it wouldnt be a problem but Supermicro PDUs are practically catered to their boards. So, in my case I had to cut the ziptie and was able to get enough length from one of the connectors, but, I still had to buy some extensions for the other.
The other thing is the front panel header is at the very bottom of the board. On SM boards it's on the right side, in the middle, ideal for any of their chassis. But in the 836 chassis, the FPIO is on the right side, putting it way on the other side and out of reach. So, I had to buy some of these: NEW Lot of 5 SuperMicro CBL084L 16-Pin Front Control Split Connector Cable
The C6100 is nice but it doesn't tick the right boxes for me as far as expandability goes. To use it for something like ScaleIO you would need multiple chassis, ideally of the 3.5" bay version, or multiple DAS enclosures with external HBAs. The ConnectX-2 mezzanine card also costs twice as much as a standard one. The 5500/5600 series PCH also runs pretty hot, 28-30W whereas the C602 PCH is only 8W. I just prefer having a platform that I can completely customize. All of my servers before we running on L5640/X5650 chips, and I'm completely swapping them out.
US reshippers add about $1 to the costs of reship via usps for these little guys depending on whether you buy insurance.
The huge international shipping price is often accompanied by Free Shipping within the continental united states so often you only have to pay postage once instead of twice. eisocom was shipping at reasonable international rates a couple of weeks ago when I got my first 2@90.
The huge international shipping price is often accompanied by Free Shipping within the continental united states so often you only have to pay postage once instead of twice. eisocom was shipping at reasonable international rates a couple of weeks ago when I got my first 2@90.
Maybe they would rather NOT ship INT but want to give the option for someone who REALLY wants an item. As-in, they don't ship INT but if you REALLY want it they will at __THIS__ price... sure it's not the lowest, but dealing with INT shipping is a time suck, and handling issues/warranty even more so.
There are plenty of BAD deals out there. Just because you find a crappy one doesn't mean you need to list it here. There are more than a handful of GOOD deals. I didn't buy either my memory or CPU's off of eBay because they were the BEST deals that I could find.
i paid 45$ for international shipping for 4 xeon E5-2670 by the seller esiso (around 11$ per proc seems to be reasonnable).
In addition, i had 87.40€ of VAT
In addition, i had 87.40€ of VAT
got me an intel serverboard, going to have to be careful about what ram I get, but I am only in need of ram and maybe a gpu for my workstation build. Also missing is a purpose, currently using: "why the hell not?"
The cheap chips has def kept the board prices artificially high. You might as well buy new if your looking for Dual 2011
I got all of my heatsinks in today, they're slightly shorter than 3U. I'd say they're minimum of 2U heatsinks. They're solid AF though, keeps the E5-2670 very frosty, much better than the garbage coolers and fans in the Intel R2312 chassis. Talking like 28-30c idle on average per core with the stock TIM on the heatsink. I think they actually threw 2 in for free!
I double agree, I'd say extreme pricing!
Maybe seller is making extra margin on shipping charges.
Try a 3rd party freight forwarding service like 'MyUSA' or 'Shipito'.
I can ship 4 x SSDs to Australia via FedEx or TNT <US$60 with Shipito.
But if you want insurance, pictures need to be taken of goods, so it's best if CPUs are in clamshells or better if they have 'electrostatic warning sticker' attached, to avoid direct contact and possible static charge.
(I'm currently negotiating with Shipito for a procedure to handle electrostatic sensitive goods).
Not Dell C6220 , but similar
Supermicro Quad Nodes $975 BO
SuperMicro 2U Quad Node 2027TR-HTRF Server X9DRT-XF+ 2xPS Rail Kit
Supermicro Quad Nodes $975 BO
SuperMicro 2U Quad Node 2027TR-HTRF Server X9DRT-XF+ 2xPS Rail Kit