some more things i noticed for the N5105 :
Running pfsesnse passT the chasis is more cooler than running pfsense barebone (vm settings: 4 cores, 4gb ram,PCIpass 2 nics) . I dont know why, and is counter intuitive but is what i noticed.
Even with PowerD checked on barebone it does not seem to scale the cores down....I have the Proxmox governor set to Powersavings and the cores go down to 800MHz a lot while in PFs they rarely touch 1000Mhz or below. Maybe is a reporting issue...but to the touch ,the case is cooler with proxmox...maybe it better manages the CPU ?!?
regarding this settings :
Advanced -> Power & Performance -> CPU
On psysmax i went down to 120 .... nothing seem to be affected .... i dont know if those seetings do something.
With the new Bios version (JK 4L-V01 CBOX 2022-6-7), at least in the while i tested i noticed that the CPU does not hit lower C states as often as with the original one..... so C8 is rarely reported on the newer bios than the original. .... this leads to higher temps and more power.
Also benchmarks with the new bios produce, as i stated before in the thread, less MHZ and higher CPU temps ....
I dont know if putting heatpipes will help the situation.... cause once the case is saturated with heat .... the next step is to active cool.
For example running a prime95 sesion at about 10-15 min after the previous one will result in almost insta temp throttle cause the new heat does not have anywhere to go .... The 6 ports models might have it better due to the bigger chassis.
My case heats up uniformly so i guess i did not ruined to much the (plane? )surface between the copper pill and the case.... i also tried to "lapp" the case where the copper touches ....so if the heats goes every where uniformly the contact betwen the case>cooper>cpu is prety good.....but the heat does not have where to go if it builds up
For a regular person (regular in terms of this forum
))) ) that wants a PFbox ... i would go with the N5105 instead of 6005..... why bother with all the heat for couple of MHZ that are not achievable reliably due to temps and power limits. .....
Buy the midrange (as they often say there is where the true sweetspot is the midrange), in day to day task you will not feel any difference for less money and heat problems, unless ofcorse you really REALLY need that horsepower.
Running pfsesnse passT the chasis is more cooler than running pfsense barebone (vm settings: 4 cores, 4gb ram,PCIpass 2 nics) . I dont know why, and is counter intuitive but is what i noticed.
Even with PowerD checked on barebone it does not seem to scale the cores down....I have the Proxmox governor set to Powersavings and the cores go down to 800MHz a lot while in PFs they rarely touch 1000Mhz or below. Maybe is a reporting issue...but to the touch ,the case is cooler with proxmox...maybe it better manages the CPU ?!?
regarding this settings :
Advanced -> Power & Performance -> CPU
- CPU VR Settings
- PSYS PMax Power = 176
- Acoustic Noise Mitigation = enabled
- Slow Slew Rate for Vccln Domain = fast/16
On psysmax i went down to 120 .... nothing seem to be affected .... i dont know if those seetings do something.
With the new Bios version (JK 4L-V01 CBOX 2022-6-7), at least in the while i tested i noticed that the CPU does not hit lower C states as often as with the original one..... so C8 is rarely reported on the newer bios than the original. .... this leads to higher temps and more power.
Also benchmarks with the new bios produce, as i stated before in the thread, less MHZ and higher CPU temps ....
I dont know if putting heatpipes will help the situation.... cause once the case is saturated with heat .... the next step is to active cool.
For example running a prime95 sesion at about 10-15 min after the previous one will result in almost insta temp throttle cause the new heat does not have anywhere to go .... The 6 ports models might have it better due to the bigger chassis.
My case heats up uniformly so i guess i did not ruined to much the (plane? )surface between the copper pill and the case.... i also tried to "lapp" the case where the copper touches ....so if the heats goes every where uniformly the contact betwen the case>cooper>cpu is prety good.....but the heat does not have where to go if it builds up
For a regular person (regular in terms of this forum
))) ) that wants a PFbox ... i would go with the N5105 instead of 6005..... why bother with all the heat for couple of MHZ that are not achievable reliably due to temps and power limits. .....Buy the midrange (as they often say there is where the true sweetspot is the midrange), in day to day task you will not feel any difference for less money and heat problems, unless ofcorse you really REALLY need that horsepower.
