SuperMicro EPYC Board won't POST if IPMI is connected?

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Very strange. We have certainly used IPMI with EPYC 7302P on the H12 boards and H11 w/ 7301P.

Happen to try a CMOS reset? I have had that work once on an Intel Xeon SM board stuck there.
 
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Patrick said:
Very strange. We have certainly used IPMI with EPYC 7302P on the H12 boards and H11 w/ 7301P.

Happen to try a CMOS reset? I have had that work once on an Intel Xeon SM board stuck there.
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Yes, tried a CMOS reset. It turns out if I have an add-on GPU installed it won't boot with IPMI console open. If the console is closed during bootup, I can boot to the OS. If I have the GPU removed, I can boot with IPMI console open.

As it stands I cant use IPMI if my add on GPU is installed. What a PITA.
 
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IamSpartacus said:
Yes, tried a CMOS reset. It turns out if I have an add-on GPU installed it won't boot with IPMI console open. If the console is closed during bootup, I can boot to the OS. If I have the GPU removed, I can boot with IPMI console open.

As it stands I cant use IPMI if my add on GPU is installed. What a PITA.
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Any word from Supermicro?

My Supermicro X10 series boards, with Xeon E3-1200 v3 do something similar when an add-on GPU is installed. For example, when booting to Windows 10 while in the IPMI iKVM/HTML5 viewer, I see all of the standard pre-boot and bios messages, but barely get a glimpse of the blue Windows 10 flag that appears when Windows 10 first starts to boot up. The iKVM/HTML5 screen goes black, but the mouse still can move about in the screen. After playing with it a bit, the add-on GPU becomes the primary display auto-selected by Windows 10, and the iKVM/HTML5 display (which is run by the ASPEED 2400/2500 chip) becomes the secondary display and is sometimes disabled by Windows upon booting into Windows.

In Windows 10, if I have the ASPEED display adapter enabled (shows up as a "Microsoft Basic Display Adapter" in Device Manager), I can make it the "primary" display device and then the Windows 10 desktop shows up in IPMI iKVM/HTML5.

I have not yet tried this with ESXI or another server based OS, but I would imagine it would work similarly.

Have you tried going into the H11 bios and making the ASPEED 2500 the default/main/primary display? This should over-ride the boot preference which is usually given to the Add-on GPU in a 16x PCIe slot. Maybe try disabling the add-on GPU in the bios as well and see what that does. It may in fact show back up once you boot into the OS.
 
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I have not spoken to SM yet as I had to get my board serial number as it was showing up in IPMI as 123456789 and you can't open a case with them without that. But I can say that in my testing, the only way my server will boot to the OS WITH the add-on GPU installed is if I set the add-on GPU as the default/primary. And disabling the add-on GPU is not an option as I need it for HW transcoding.
 
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From past experience with many different motherboards, while using GPU's as your display output you will loose iKVM.
If you use your GPU's as a compute device, no video cable connected, iKVM will work.

iKVM will use the video controller found in the ASPEED chips or other IPMI device. Video from a GPU only displays through its own video output ports and cannot be redirected through the PCIe buss then to the IPMI controller, then iKVM.

With a server that has GPU's installed you will typically not use video outputs from the GPU, iKVM works fine. Workstations are a problem as you would normally be using the GPU to drive a display, no iKVM then but IPMI will work. If you want to be able to control the workstation remotely I suggest using Teamviewer or other tools like that.
 
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In my case, I'm not using the add-on GPU to output any video. Nothing is even plugged into it. It's being used for HW transcoding. However, the server will not boot to the OS unless I set it as the primary video card and doing so leaves me unable to use the iKVM.
 
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Ok I see what you are talking about, still early here for me and on first cup of coffee :)

Is there any chance you might have Above 4G Decoding BIOS option set to Disabled ?

I remember sometime ago on a SM WS motherboard it came with this set to disabled by default, I could not get it to boot with a GPU installed.
Fix was to take off the GPU, use IPMI to boot to BIOS, iKVM in and set that to enabled, then everything worked fine.
 
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William said:
Ok I see what you are talking about, still early here for me and on first cup of coffee :)

Is there any chance you might have Above 4G Decoding BIOS option set to Disabled ?

I remember sometime ago on a SM WS motherboard it came with this set to disabled by default, I could not get it to boot with a GPU installed.
Fix was to take off the GPU, use IPMI to boot to BIOS, iKVM in and set that to enabled, then everything worked fine.
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I don't even know what that setting is so it's definitely set to whatever the default is. I'll have to look into that the next chance I get into the BIOS.
 
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The motherboard I had issues with this was a Supermicro X10DRC-T4+.
Here is the BIOS screen shot.
Most boards I run into have it Enabled by Default now.19.JPG
 
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I checked and Above 4G Decoding is Enabled by default.

So with onboard GPU set to primary, this is where my server sits and never gets past.

 
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IamSpartacus said:
So I contacted SuperMicro today and this was their response. Is this real life?
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Wow, something must have gotten miscommunicated with that. Surely a simple video card for a workstation would work in a 16x PCI slot that is positioned right next to the CPU for just that purpose.
 
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Wow, something must have gotten miscommunicated with that. Surely a simple video card for a workstation would work in a 16x PCI slot that is positioned right next to the CPU for just that purpose.
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That's my initial thought as well. I'm going to try and get it escalated to someone who actually knows what they are talking about.
 
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I have a 7302P on order and was waiting for the ATX H12 Supermicro boards to be released, but if that truly is SM's position on Epyc 7002 platforms, I don't see another choice but cancelling the 7302P order and going with an Intel Xeon solution. I need to have ECC support, so Ryzen isn't an option. Maybe someone from AMD can chime in here, as I'm sure they're following a number of forums and looking for any platform and related issues.
 
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Looking at the H11 motherboard manual, have you tried physically disabling the physical VGA port on the motherboard with a jumper?
I'd be curious to see what disabling JPG1 does (Pins 1-2 VGA Enabled; Pins 2-3 VGA Disabled).
 
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Not sure if this is the same thing mentioned earlier in this thread, but according to the manual, there is also a "VGA Priority" setting in the bios under the "PCIe/PCI/PnP" configuration options.

"VGA Priority - Use this setting to select between onboard or offboard VGA support. The options are Onboard and Offboard "
 
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