SanDisk CloudSpeed Eco 1.92TB 2.5" SATA $120

foureight84 · Oct 11, 2022

Samir said:
I actually don't have any issues with old code as long as it works the way it's supposed to, which generally most code does until someone starts to 'hack' on it. I have a friend that does DOD level security clearance programming and he is very old school in proper structure, formatting, and commenting--and today even at these levels, the powers that be just want some hack job to 'get the job done' with the shortsightedness of a spider.

I especially think forcing UI changes because 'they are no longer in style' is a complete and utter waste of resources because people go to web sites to get something done, not 'oohhh and aahhh' about how pretty it is--and those that are doing this probably aren't contributing in a significant way to that site's revenue anyways.

Every brand is about defending itself these days, even when wrong--because it's all about the money. When the foundation of a company is based on questionable/flexible ethics, this corruptive outcome is pretty much inevitable.

Well not exactly. Old works just fine, the banking industry is built on the ISO8583 for sending transaction details. That was created back in the 1980s and has seen very few modifications. If it works then there's no need to change or add fluff. But that's not what we are seeing with eBay.

The problem that eBay has is that they are stuck between system overhauls to adapt to the growing number of users and features on the platform over the years. It's not just about the visual appearance. What I meant when I said pages stuck in the 90s, I meant they were one-off pages/features that are disconnected from everything else. As someone previously mentioned that their search feature is completely broken on the European version of the site. This is just an example of incomplete piecemeal updates. Most likely it's hacks upon hacks of a codebase in order to bring new features rather than revamping/refactoring old code to work with new features.

There's been a lot of organizational changes over the past few years with the company just struggling to remain valid and competitive. Most likely those changes resulted in the loss of talents, team restructuring, and ultimately incomplete projects with half gone live and the rest shelved.

Bjorn Smith · Oct 12, 2022

Fritz said:
For most people with home labs consumer SSD's are fine for boot drives. They also consume less power.

I never said consumer SSD's are not fine for boot drives - just that a 2TB consumer drive are not equal to a enterprise drive in any way - the only real thing you can say are the same is that they both use flash memory.
Enterprise drives usually have:

More write cache
More chips
Much better sustained performance
PLP
Often overprovisoned

Consumer SSD's are fine for a boot drive and light usage - just dont throw a consumer SSD into a discussion about an enterprise drive and say its just as good.

i386 · Oct 12, 2022

Try to do this with a consumer ssd

Bjorn Smith · Oct 12, 2022

i386 said:
Try to do this with a consumer ssd
View attachment 24808

1k PB - that is insane - but how can you have written more than read - that seems like a very weird pattern :-D - or as a ZIL?

nev_neo · Oct 12, 2022

Bjorn Smith said:
1k PB - that is insane - but how can you have written more than read - that seems like a very weird pattern :-D - or as a ZIL?

Probably ZIL, its an RMS-200 so not an actual SSD. Nevertheless its 8GB of excellent performance.

i386 · Oct 12, 2022

It's a radian rms-200, on ebay they are often listed as netapp/emc nvram/accelerator, they are the write cache for the big san systems

nabsltd · Oct 12, 2022

nev_neo said:
Probably ZIL, its an RMS-200 so not an actual SSD.

"Not an SSD" is an excellent description, since the flash on the RMS-200 is only written when power is removed from the card. Even with reboots for updates, you could keep the card powered for years, so it might only have a couple hundred GB of actual flash write.

foureight84 · Oct 12, 2022

I just received the 4 drives. 1 at 83% health, another at 84%, and the remaining two at 96%. The issue is that 3 drives cannot read more than 77-78MB/s, write seems to vary from 245-320MB/S Something to keep in mind if you are going to buy these.

zac1 · Oct 12, 2022

foureight84 said:
I just received the 4 drives. 1 at 83% health, another at 84%, and the remaining two at 96%. The issue is that 3 drives cannot read more than 77-78MB/s, write seems to vary from 245-320MB/S Something to keep in mind if you are going to buy these.

Sounds like you got the $76 specials!

foureight84 · Oct 12, 2022

zac1 said:
Sounds like you got the $76 specials!

LOL! I fell for that trap card! I'll do some more testing.

foureight84 · Oct 12, 2022

foureight84 said:
I just received the 4 drives. 1 at 83% health, another at 84%, and the remaining two at 96%. The issue is that 3 drives cannot read more than 77-78MB/s, write seems to vary from 245-320MB/S Something to keep in mind if you are going to buy these.

Okay nvm. I goofed. CrystalDiskMark with the drives formatted as NTFS shows similar read/write speed matching specs. Using this other tool called Victoria HDD/SSD to test read/write over raw no partition and filesystem was what gave that speed variation. I will use a different tool to scan for errors.

Samir · Oct 12, 2022

foureight84 said:
There's been a lot of organizational changes over the past few years with the company just struggling to remain valid and competitive. Most likely those changes resulted in the loss of talents, team restructuring, and ultimately incomplete projects with half gone live and the rest shelved.

So they're just like every other company facing the same issues with the same results, lol.

Samir · Oct 12, 2022

Bjorn Smith said:
I never said consumer SSD's are not fine for boot drives - just that a 2TB consumer drive are not equal to a enterprise drive in any way - the only real thing you can say are the same is that they both use flash memory.
Enterprise drives usually have:

More write cache

More chips

Much better sustained performance

PLP

Often overprovisoned

Better soldering/QA

Consumer SSD's are fine for a boot drive and light usage - just dont throw a consumer SSD into a discussion about an enterprise drive and say its just as good.

Added on you missed.

Glock24 · Oct 12, 2022

foureight84 said:
I just received the 4 drives. 1 at 83% health, another at 84%, and the remaining two at 96%. The issue is that 3 drives cannot read more than 77-78MB/s, write seems to vary from 245-320MB/S Something to keep in mind if you are going to buy these.

Some time ago I bought a couple of 960GB CloudSpeed ECO (gen I), they exhibit the same behavior, slow reads and about the same write speed as yours, but mine disconnect after a few tens GBs of sustained writes.

foureight84 · Oct 12, 2022

CrystalDiskMark on ISCSI zvol. These disks are current on RAIDZ.

Here are SMART readouts for these. None of them have Relocated sectors or critical error counts so that's good. Although I am not certain of what else to look for in the SMART data.

Code:

smartctl 7.2 2020-12-30 r5155 [x86_64-linux-5.10.142+truenas] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-20, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Sandisk SATA Cloudspeed Max and GEN2 ESS SSDs
Device Model:     SDLF1CRR-019T-1HAP
Serial Number:  
LU WWN Device Id: 5 001173 1017b478c
Firmware Version: ZR09RPA1
User Capacity:    1,920,383,410,176 bytes [1.92 TB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate:    Solid State Device
TRIM Command:     Available, deterministic, zeroed
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4c
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Wed Oct 12 22:06:51 2022 PDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)    Offline data collection activity
                    was never started.
                    Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The previous self-test routine completed
                    without error or no self-test has ever
                    been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:         (20160) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:              (0x5d) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                    No Auto Offline data collection support.
                    Abort Offline collection upon new
                    command.
                    Offline surface scan supported.
                    Self-test supported.
                    No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                    Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)    Saves SMART data before entering
                    power-saving mode.
                    Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)    Error logging supported.
                    General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   1) minutes.
SCT capabilities:            (0x003d)    SCT Status supported.
                    SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
                    SCT Feature Control supported.
                    SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   067   067   000    Old_age   Always       -       29249 (9 118 0)
13 Lifetime_UECC_Ct        0x0012   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0
32 Lifetime_Write_AmpFctr  0x0002   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       136
33 Write_AmpFctr           0x0002   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       106
170 Reserve_Erase_BlkCt     0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       18331
171 Program_Fail_Ct         0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
172 Erase_Fail_Ct           0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
175 Lifetime_Die_Failure_Ct 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
178 SSD_LifeLeft(0.01%)     0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       8249
183 LT_Link_Rate_DwnGrd_Ct  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
191 Clean_Shutdown_Ct       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       61
192 Unclean_Shutdown_Ct     0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   071   062   030    Old_age   Always       -       29 (Min/Max 17/38)
196 Lifetime_Retried_Blk_Ct 0x001b   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
211 Read_Disturb_ReallocEvt 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
233 Lifetime_Nand_Writes    0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       2636800
235 Capacitor_Health        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1924416
242 Total_LBAs_Read         0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1594304
244 Therm_Throt_Activation  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
245 Drive_Life_Remaining%   0x0012   083   083   002    Old_age   Always       -       83
253 SPI_Test_Remaining      0x0012   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
Warning: ATA error count 90 inconsistent with error log pointer 2

ATA Error Count: 90 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
    CR = Command Register [HEX]
    FR = Features Register [HEX]
    SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
    SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
    CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
    CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
    DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
    DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
    ER = Error register [HEX]
    ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 90 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 24962 hours (1040 days + 2 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  04 51 00 ff 00 00 00

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  e7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00      00:00:00.003  FLUSH CACHE
  60 01 00 af e2 8f 00 00      00:00:00.003  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 01 00 00 00 00 00 00      00:00:00.003  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 0a 00 90 e1 8f 00 00      00:00:00.003  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 0b 00 85 e1 8f 00 00      00:00:00.003  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 89 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 24961 hours (1040 days + 1 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  04 51 00 ff 00 00 00

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  e7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00      00:00:00.003  FLUSH CACHE
  60 01 00 af e2 8f 00 00      00:00:00.003  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 01 00 00 00 00 00 00      00:00:00.003  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 0a 00 97 e2 8f 00 00      00:00:00.003  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 0b 00 8c e2 8f 00 00      00:00:00.003  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 87 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 24960 hours (1040 days + 0 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  04 51 00 ff 00 00 00

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  e7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00      00:00:00.003  FLUSH CACHE
  61 01 00 af e2 8f 00 00      00:00:00.003  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
  61 01 00 00 00 00 00 00      00:00:00.003  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
  61 57 00 4a e2 8f 00 00      00:00:00.003  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED
  61 57 00 d8 e1 8f 00 00      00:00:00.003  WRITE FPDMA QUEUED

Error 86 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 24960 hours (1040 days + 0 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  04 51 00 ff 00 00 00

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  e7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00      00:00:00.003  FLUSH CACHE
  b0 d0 00 00 4f c2 00 00      00:00:00.003  SMART READ DATA
  25 00 01 af e2 8f 00 00      00:00:00.003  READ DMA EXT
  ec 00 00 00 00 00 00 00      00:00:00.003  IDENTIFY DEVICE
  ec 00 00 00 00 00 00 00      00:00:00.003  IDENTIFY DEVICE

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       10%     29243         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

Code:

smartctl 7.2 2020-12-30 r5155 [x86_64-linux-5.10.142+truenas] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-20, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Sandisk SATA Cloudspeed Max and GEN2 ESS SSDs
Device Model:     SDLF1CRR-019T-1HAP
Serial Number:  
LU WWN Device Id: 5 001173 1017c1824
Firmware Version: ZR09RPA1
User Capacity:    1,920,383,410,176 bytes [1.92 TB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate:    Solid State Device
TRIM Command:     Available, deterministic, zeroed
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4c
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Wed Oct 12 22:07:27 2022 PDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)    Offline data collection activity
                    was never started.
                    Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The previous self-test routine completed
                    without error or no self-test has ever
                    been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:         (20160) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:              (0x5d) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                    No Auto Offline data collection support.
                    Abort Offline collection upon new
                    command.
                    Offline surface scan supported.
                    Self-test supported.
                    No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                    Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)    Saves SMART data before entering
                    power-saving mode.
                    Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)    Error logging supported.
                    General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   1) minutes.
SCT capabilities:            (0x003d)    SCT Status supported.
                    SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
                    SCT Feature Control supported.
                    SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   067   067   000    Old_age   Always       -       29062 (9 153 0)
13 Lifetime_UECC_Ct        0x0012   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0
32 Lifetime_Write_AmpFctr  0x0002   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       177
33 Write_AmpFctr           0x0002   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       106
170 Reserve_Erase_BlkCt     0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       18631
171 Program_Fail_Ct         0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
172 Erase_Fail_Ct           0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
175 Lifetime_Die_Failure_Ct 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
178 SSD_LifeLeft(0.01%)     0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       9589
183 LT_Link_Rate_DwnGrd_Ct  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
191 Clean_Shutdown_Ct       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       29
192 Unclean_Shutdown_Ct     0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   070   058   030    Old_age   Always       -       30 (Min/Max 19/42)
196 Lifetime_Retried_Blk_Ct 0x001b   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
211 Read_Disturb_ReallocEvt 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
233 Lifetime_Nand_Writes    0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       247360
235 Capacitor_Health        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       139072
242 Total_LBAs_Read         0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       261376
244 Therm_Throt_Activation  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
245 Drive_Life_Remaining%   0x0012   096   096   002    Old_age   Always       -       96
253 SPI_Test_Remaining      0x0012   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       10%     29056         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

Code:

smartctl 7.2 2020-12-30 r5155 [x86_64-linux-5.10.142+truenas] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-20, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Sandisk SATA Cloudspeed Max and GEN2 ESS SSDs
Device Model:     SDLF1CRR-019T-1HAP
Serial Number:  
LU WWN Device Id: 5 001173 1017b27d4
Firmware Version: ZR09RPA1
User Capacity:    1,920,383,410,176 bytes [1.92 TB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate:    Solid State Device
TRIM Command:     Available, deterministic, zeroed
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4c
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Wed Oct 12 22:07:29 2022 PDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)    Offline data collection activity
                    was never started.
                    Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The previous self-test routine completed
                    without error or no self-test has ever
                    been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:         (20160) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:              (0x5d) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                    No Auto Offline data collection support.
                    Abort Offline collection upon new
                    command.
                    Offline surface scan supported.
                    Self-test supported.
                    No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                    Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)    Saves SMART data before entering
                    power-saving mode.
                    Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)    Error logging supported.
                    General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   1) minutes.
SCT capabilities:            (0x003d)    SCT Status supported.
                    SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
                    SCT Feature Control supported.
                    SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   068   068   000    Old_age   Always       -       28440 (9 156 0)
13 Lifetime_UECC_Ct        0x0012   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0
32 Lifetime_Write_AmpFctr  0x0002   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       234
33 Write_AmpFctr           0x0002   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       106
170 Reserve_Erase_BlkCt     0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       18322
171 Program_Fail_Ct         0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
172 Erase_Fail_Ct           0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
175 Lifetime_Die_Failure_Ct 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
178 SSD_LifeLeft(0.01%)     0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       9596
183 LT_Link_Rate_DwnGrd_Ct  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
191 Clean_Shutdown_Ct       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       40
192 Unclean_Shutdown_Ct     0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   070   052   030    Old_age   Always       -       30 (Min/Max 19/48)
196 Lifetime_Retried_Blk_Ct 0x001b   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
211 Read_Disturb_ReallocEvt 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       2
233 Lifetime_Nand_Writes    0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       333888
235 Capacitor_Health        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       139776
242 Total_LBAs_Read         0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       265984
244 Therm_Throt_Activation  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
245 Drive_Life_Remaining%   0x0012   096   096   002    Old_age   Always       -       96
253 SPI_Test_Remaining      0x0012   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
Warning: ATA error count 44 inconsistent with error log pointer 2

ATA Error Count: 44 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
    CR = Command Register [HEX]
    FR = Features Register [HEX]
    SC = Sector Count Register [HEX]
    SN = Sector Number Register [HEX]
    CL = Cylinder Low Register [HEX]
    CH = Cylinder High Register [HEX]
    DH = Device/Head Register [HEX]
    DC = Device Command Register [HEX]
    ER = Error register [HEX]
    ST = Status register [HEX]
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 44 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 24171 hours (1007 days + 3 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  04 51 00 ff 00 00 00

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  e7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00      00:00:00.003  FLUSH CACHE
  60 01 00 af e2 8f 00 00      00:00:00.003  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 01 00 00 00 00 00 00      00:00:00.003  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 0a 00 d0 e0 8f 00 00      00:00:00.003  READ FPDMA QUEUED
  60 0b 00 c5 e0 8f 00 00      00:00:00.003  READ FPDMA QUEUED

Error 43 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 24170 hours (1007 days + 2 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was in an unknown state.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  04 51 00 ff 00 00 00

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  e7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00      00:00:00.003  FLUSH CACHE
  ec 00 00 00 00 00 00 00      00:00:00.003  IDENTIFY DEVICE
  f4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00      00:00:00.003  SECURITY ERASE UNIT
  f3 00 00 00 00 00 00 00      00:00:00.003  SECURITY ERASE PREPARE
  f1 00 00 00 00 00 00 00      00:00:00.003  SECURITY SET PASSWORD

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       10%     28434         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

Code:

smartctl 7.2 2020-12-30 r5155 [x86_64-linux-5.10.142+truenas] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-20, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Sandisk SATA Cloudspeed Max and GEN2 ESS SSDs
Device Model:     SDLF1CRR-019T-1HAP
Serial Number:  
LU WWN Device Id: 5 001173 1017c10a0
Firmware Version: ZR09RPA1
User Capacity:    1,920,383,410,176 bytes [1.92 TB]
Sector Sizes:     512 bytes logical, 4096 bytes physical
Rotation Rate:    Solid State Device
TRIM Command:     Available, deterministic, zeroed
Device is:        In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   ATA8-ACS T13/1699-D revision 4c
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Wed Oct 12 22:07:36 2022 PDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)    Offline data collection activity
                    was never started.
                    Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The previous self-test routine completed
                    without error or no self-test has ever
                    been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:         (20160) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:              (0x5d) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                    No Auto Offline data collection support.
                    Abort Offline collection upon new
                    command.
                    Offline surface scan supported.
                    Self-test supported.
                    No Conveyance Self-test supported.
                    Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)    Saves SMART data before entering
                    power-saving mode.
                    Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)    Error logging supported.
                    General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   1) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   1) minutes.
SCT capabilities:            (0x003d)    SCT Status supported.
                    SCT Error Recovery Control supported.
                    SCT Feature Control supported.
                    SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   067   067   000    Old_age   Always       -       29117 (9 162 0)
13 Lifetime_UECC_Ct        0x0012   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0
32 Lifetime_Write_AmpFctr  0x0002   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       134
33 Write_AmpFctr           0x0002   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       106
170 Reserve_Erase_BlkCt     0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       18215
171 Program_Fail_Ct         0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
172 Erase_Fail_Ct           0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
175 Lifetime_Die_Failure_Ct 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
178 SSD_LifeLeft(0.01%)     0x0012   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       8388
183 LT_Link_Rate_DwnGrd_Ct  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
191 Clean_Shutdown_Ct       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       24
192 Unclean_Shutdown_Ct     0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   070   059   030    Old_age   Always       -       30 (Min/Max 19/41)
196 Lifetime_Retried_Blk_Ct 0x001b   100   100   010    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
211 Read_Disturb_ReallocEvt 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
233 Lifetime_Nand_Writes    0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       2421568
235 Capacitor_Health        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1803776
242 Total_LBAs_Read         0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1418368
244 Therm_Throt_Activation  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
245 Drive_Life_Remaining%   0x0012   084   084   002    Old_age   Always       -       84
253 SPI_Test_Remaining      0x0012   100   100   001    Old_age   Always       -       0

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Extended offline    Completed without error       10%     29111         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

foureight84 · Oct 12, 2022

Glock24 said:
Some time ago I bought a couple of 960GB CloudSpeed ECO (gen I), they exhibit the same behavior, slow reads and about the same write speed as yours, but mine disconnect after a few tens GBs of sustained writes.

What benchmark tool were you using?

RobstarUSA · Oct 13, 2022

For those of you who bought these drives, I think these are the linux/windows tools for them:

CloudSpeed Gen. II Eco & Ultra SSD Drive Firmware (ZR11)

Find detailed answers to your support questions for your Western Digital, SanDisk, WD_BLACK, or WD storage product.

support-en.wd.com

foureight84 · Oct 13, 2022

RobstarUSA said:
For those of you who bought these drives, I think these are the linux/windows tools for them:

CloudSpeed Gen. II Eco & Ultra SSD Drive Firmware (ZR11)

Find detailed answers to your support questions for your Western Digital, SanDisk, WD_BLACK, or WD storage product.

support-en.wd.com

I was looking at this but I saw that some people have issues setting the block size. I haven't given it a try to know the full details. Are there usually any performance benefits to upgrading the firmware? And can you also backup firmware?

foureight84 · Oct 25, 2022

I ended up having issues with two of the drives. One would drop from being detected and the other was incredibly slow randomly. They were both around 80% life. All of them had 3 years of uptime. The seller notified me that they found similar issues with a few other drives and asked if I would want to keep the remaining two or send them back. The two I had left were both 96% life but one had SMART errors relating to erase issues two years into its run time. I decided that it wasn't worth the deal that I received and just sent them all back for a full refund. The seller mentioned that they were recalling that specific batch to return to the vendor they had received the drives. Whether it's just to recover the drives realizing the mistakes made or they are actually part of a larger number of problematic drives, I don't really know but it wasn't worth the headaches down the road even if I wasn't going to store anything mission critical on them.

bilson · Oct 26, 2022

Unfortunately, always a risk with used parts. I've only had one issue with an enterprise samsung that performed at much lower level than benchmarks suggested but seller took it back no questions asked. I've had no issues with drives I've bought new, at least not in the first year of service - seagate 3TB comes to mind.

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