Potential Deal: 2 x Dual 2011 nodes @$199, Quanta Openrack
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I'm really tempted by these, I really just need a single node though. The only thing holding me back is the power issue but I'm guessing with the converter it seems pretty simple (I do NOT solder).
I see two current offers for single nodes but they don't seem to include the power supplies.
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If you only want a single node and don't want to deal with power than get one of these. Quanta S210-X22RQ 2U LGA2011 Barebone (10Gb and LSI2008 mezzanines included)
Alright in the riser department. I have a little less than elegant solution (but it works). If you need a double height PCIe card then you can do this.
Get one of each:
164pin PCI-E 16x Slot PCI-Express Protector Riser Card 25mm J58
PCI EXPRESS 16X RISER CARD / X16 LEFT Slot Adapter (Star Empery PT319)
That makes it almost perfect height for the top mounting hole.
Get one of each:
164pin PCI-E 16x Slot PCI-Express Protector Riser Card 25mm J58
PCI EXPRESS 16X RISER CARD / X16 LEFT Slot Adapter (Star Empery PT319)
That makes it almost perfect height for the top mounting hole.
In my case, I tried non-ecc ram, full fan speed. Later I found out that airshroud, as previous pages mentioned, is the cause. When I swapped the ram sticks and bios batteries, I did not put on airshroud for convenience, thus the full speed fan noise. I think motherboard has some sensors for airshroud to automatically control fan speed. Anyway, in my case, airshroud is the issue. Luckily I did not buy another one from eisis, which does not have airshroud in the package.
For another node not showing video info, I tried to reconfigure jumper J46 to 2-3 and then to 1-2 to reset bios, still not working. I bought a low end video card Dell NVIDIA Quadro NVS 290 256MB PCIex16 Video Card recommended by grfxlab. Probably my GT620 is not early enough. Thanks for the forum members' help.
For another node not showing video info, I tried to reconfigure jumper J46 to 2-3 and then to 1-2 to reset bios, still not working. I bought a low end video card Dell NVIDIA Quadro NVS 290 256MB PCIex16 Video Card recommended by grfxlab. Probably my GT620 is not early enough. Thanks for the forum members' help.
I saw that but that is more then I want to spend, the attraction of the openrack is the price for a dual LGA2011.
anyway does anyone know which power supply I would need to buy if I got the single node (in light that I want to use the power convertor). thank you!
there isn't any sensor for air shroud, the reason your fan is going crazy without it is because your CPU is getting too hot. the air shroud helps directing air through your CPU to keep it cool
the effect of the air shroud is amazing. my good node runs overnight without an issue. still quiet with centos 6.8 just installed. centos 7.2 had issue with video driver and cannot be installed.
A couple quick questions:
- What, if anything, stands in the way of using a modern GPU (e.g. GTX980) in one of these machines? Aside from the riser issue.
- Are these machines capable of running E5-2700v2 CPUs?
- Does anyone know if the firmware, particularly for the ME, is signed? I'd love to see coreboot running on these but if the images are signed that's never going to happen.
1. nobody posted results here with 980. if you experiment, you need an extra power for the card.
2. i think so. but others please confirm.
3. not sure. i don't see it in the bme. but maybe hidden somewhere else.
2. i think so. but others please confirm.
3. not sure. i don't see it in the bme. but maybe hidden somewhere else.
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The ME is always signed: Intel x86s hide another CPU that can take over your machine (you can't audit it) but you still might be able to get coreboot running....
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The OCP server spec sheet doesn't mention anything about those v2 CPUs, nor does the C602 chipset compatibility page (only 16XXv2).
The Quanta BIOS downloads include the full BIN (which includes the ME firmware) that can be flashed via SPI to a brand new BIOS chip (I had to do this when I got a bit too adventurous with inband flashing >.>). I don't know enough about what checks are in place, but I know you can always install a fresh BIOS with ease using the proper tools
Thanks all for the replies.
Justin, you right of course. What I should have asked is if Quanta or Wynn configured the machines in such a way that the ME could be disabled entirely. If I remember correctly, requiring a functional (and signed) ME for boot is actually at the ODM's discretion. The ODM sets this requirement by setting fuses in the PCH. While I may have issues with the immutability of the ME it's actually not my primary concern here, I'm far more curious about the possibility of porting coreboot to this hardware and that's in part dependent on running firmware which isn't signed by a trusted Intel partner.
As far as the possibility of running v2 CPUs is concerned, I only ask because I've seen plenty of other C602 based boards on the market with such support. It wasn't until the v3 CPUs that there was a major break in backward compatibility which resulted in the "2011v3" socket.
I should have been a little less specific when I mentioned the GTX 980. While it would be ideal I'd be happy to hear any success stories of people using modern GPUs in these systems. Also, the requirement of a secondary power source for such a card shouldn't be an issue. My thought is if I use an HP Common Slot power supply with a sufficiently high rating I should be able to pull the additional 12 volts from it, if that doesn't work I can always dedicate a second PSU to the GPU.
There was one more thing that I forgot to ask in my original post. Is there any mention of "NTB" or "non-transparent bridging" anywhere in the firmware config? I'm curious because there's a very brief mention of NTB in the specification (§4.5) and while I no immediate need for it I do think it could be fun to experiment with. CPUs of this vintage all suffer from a fairly serious bug[1] but apparently a workaround is possible, but only in firmware (and now this post has gone full circle).
Again, I really appreciate all your replies, and this thread in general.
--adam
[1] Intel errata BT118, "Complex Platform Conditions during a Transition to S4 or S5 State May Result in an Internal Timeout Error"
Justin, you right of course. What I should have asked is if Quanta or Wynn configured the machines in such a way that the ME could be disabled entirely. If I remember correctly, requiring a functional (and signed) ME for boot is actually at the ODM's discretion. The ODM sets this requirement by setting fuses in the PCH. While I may have issues with the immutability of the ME it's actually not my primary concern here, I'm far more curious about the possibility of porting coreboot to this hardware and that's in part dependent on running firmware which isn't signed by a trusted Intel partner.
As far as the possibility of running v2 CPUs is concerned, I only ask because I've seen plenty of other C602 based boards on the market with such support. It wasn't until the v3 CPUs that there was a major break in backward compatibility which resulted in the "2011v3" socket.
I should have been a little less specific when I mentioned the GTX 980. While it would be ideal I'd be happy to hear any success stories of people using modern GPUs in these systems. Also, the requirement of a secondary power source for such a card shouldn't be an issue. My thought is if I use an HP Common Slot power supply with a sufficiently high rating I should be able to pull the additional 12 volts from it, if that doesn't work I can always dedicate a second PSU to the GPU.
There was one more thing that I forgot to ask in my original post. Is there any mention of "NTB" or "non-transparent bridging" anywhere in the firmware config? I'm curious because there's a very brief mention of NTB in the specification (§4.5) and while I no immediate need for it I do think it could be fun to experiment with. CPUs of this vintage all suffer from a fairly serious bug[1] but apparently a workaround is possible, but only in firmware (and now this post has gone full circle).
Again, I really appreciate all your replies, and this thread in general.
--adam
[1] Intel errata BT118, "Complex Platform Conditions during a Transition to S4 or S5 State May Result in an Internal Timeout Error"
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Again, I'm not sure about signature verifications, but you can disable ME via the BIOS (check page 95 of the tech manual) and via a jumper (for forced BIOS upgrades).
My GTX950 would start booting enough to show the splash screen but then just hang there. Switching to an older AMD worked fine. That said, I was using the included risers which split the x16 into two x8 so that may have caused issues too.
I am planning to set up four pairs in a cluster. Each node running ubuntu or any supported flavor of linux. Except for ability to ssh and program to communicate over socket, i do not need other network services.
For a developer who do not have experience in network setups may be someone can share configuration.
If i were to get the Quanta version with SPF+ interface. What do i need to get all nodes interconnected. Any pointers to the cheapest switch, cables would be nice. If it comes expensive i am thinking of getting the unused Wywnn version.
Do i need to worry about the BIOS issue of Wywnn for adding Intel 750 NVMe (as data disk), or GTX1080 (if possible).
Thank you
For a developer who do not have experience in network setups may be someone can share configuration.
If i were to get the Quanta version with SPF+ interface. What do i need to get all nodes interconnected. Any pointers to the cheapest switch, cables would be nice. If it comes expensive i am thinking of getting the unused Wywnn version.
Do i need to worry about the BIOS issue of Wywnn for adding Intel 750 NVMe (as data disk), or GTX1080 (if possible).
Thank you
Great!
A few more quick questions about the GPU situation. First, do you remember if you were booting in BIOS or UEFI mode? Second, were you trying to boot using the GTX as your primary, secondary, or only display adapter? And last, when you say it would show the splash screen do you mean the system firmware/BIOS splash or a splash screen from the GPU firmware?
Thanks so much for the great information; I really appreciate it.
--adam
Is the Rackgo X F03A exactly the same board as the Quanta Windmill or simply very close? Do the system and BMC firmware images for the F03A work on the Windmill?
Earlier I asked if the Windmill boards supported E5-2600v2 (Ivy Bridge) CPUs, and while I'm still not 100% sure about the Quanta machines I did notice that datasheet for the Wywinn SV7210 does state that both E5-2600 and E5-2600 v2 are supported.
I just thought I'd share incase anyone else is interested in a potential upgrade path.
I just thought I'd share incase anyone else is interested in a potential upgrade path.