MICRON 1100 2TB 6G SFF for $59

[Kahooli]

I almost jumped on this train, but then I remembered that we'd be decommissioning soon enough Netapp with dozen of PM1633 3.84TB SAS12 drives (7K TBW).

Sharing is caring.

 

[EasyRhino]

Two toshiba drives smart data:
Thoughts?

I'm not very good at translating LBA to terabytes, but it looks like the drives have had 5 years of power on time, only terabytes written, and like 31 power cycles. 100% reserved space. So they are probably fine.

I don't understand why so many folks got overexcited about me mentioning these drives.

I think people, or at least me, get excited about the idea of giant piles of storage just... escaping into the wild at once.

 

[firworks]

I bought one of the Micron 1100 from the first link in OP and it arrived today. 168TBW with 9 power cycles and 44K PoH. Seems like a pretty good deal to me for 56$. I might buy a few more.

 

[klui]

I'm not very good at translating LBA to terabytes, but it looks like the drives have had 5 years of power on time, only terabytes written, and like 31 power cycles. 100% reserved space. So they are probably fine.

There are websites that will do the conversion for you. Each LBA is 512 bytes.

N * 512 bytes        1 KB            1 MB            1 GB            1 TB
------------- x ------------- x ------------- x ------------- x -------------
    1 LBA         1024 bytes      1024 KB         1024 MB         1024 GB

I didn't notice at first but one of my drives has 3 reallocated NAND blocks and percent lifetime remaining is "34%" in the raw value. Unused reserve NAND blocks is over 9300 like the other drive. I contacted the seller and received a prepaid shipping label for replacement after I provided the serial number.

 

[Sacrilego]

I don't understand why so many folks got overexcited about me mentioning these drives.
a) As I said soon, which translated to my company language, means several months, not days. It may not even happen until next year.
b) You don't have to guess too hard what I do for a living, so, of course, I looked up prices of LSI 3k series SAS HBA controllers (around $100-150), which seems like a cheap way to go potentially run these drives in my pc.
c) I am not the only engineer aware of these drives' existence, and my colleague gets his cut before any of the STH crowd does. Sorry, c'est la vie.
d) I'm not even 100% sure if the NetApp SSDs are PM 1633s or something else entirely.

I can't put the cat back in the bag, but please understand that my post was mainly for my reasons for not jumping on this deal. That is all.

A lot of us here at the STH Great Deals Forum will always jump at the opportunity to purchase fast reliable storage at big discounts.
So when you dangle that potential deal in front of us, we tend to go a bit crazy .

 

[unwind-protect]

I think mine was delivered today. Will give it a spin later.

 

[unwind-protect]

I think mine was delivered today. Will give it a spin later.

15% life left

 

[polar101]

15% life left

Mine was 9% for 4 drives and 7000 bad sectors.

 

[newabc]

Mine arrived. The smart info by SmartMonTools for windows as below.
5.7 years total power-on time. CrystalDiskInfo showed 98% life remain.

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Crucial/Micron Client SSDs
Device Model:     Micron_1100_MTFDDAK2T0TBN
Serial Number:    *******************
LU WWN Device Id: *******************
Firmware Version: M0MU030
User Capacity:    2,048,408,248,320 bytes [2.04 TB]
Sector Size:      512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate:    Solid State Device
Form Factor:      2.5 inches
TRIM Command:     Available, deterministic, zeroed
Device is:        In smartctl database
ATA Version is:   ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 5
SATA Version is:  SATA 3.2, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is:    Sat Apr 29 14:27:41 2023 PDT
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x00)    Offline data collection activity
                    was never started.
                    Auto Offline Data Collection: Disabled.
Self-test execution status:      (   0)    The previous self-test routine completed
                    without error or no self-test has ever
                    been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection:         ( 5428) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:              (0x7b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
                    Auto Offline data collection on/off support.
                    Suspend Offline collection upon new
                    command.
                    Offline surface scan supported.
                    Self-test supported.
                    Conveyance Self-test supported.
                    Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:            (0x0003)    Saves SMART data before entering
                    power-saving mode.
                    Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:        (0x01)    Error logging supported.
                    General Purpose Logging supported.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (  24) minutes.
Conveyance self-test routine
recommended polling time:      (   3) minutes.
SCT capabilities:            (0x0035)    SCT Status supported.
                    SCT Feature Control supported.
                    SCT Data Table supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x002f   100   000   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       39
  5 Reallocate_NAND_Blk_Cnt 0x0032   100   100   010    Old_age   Always       -       1
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       50305
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       16
171 Program_Fail_Count      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
172 Erase_Fail_Count        0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
173 Ave_Block-Erase_Count   0x0032   098   098   000    Old_age   Always       -       44
174 Unexpect_Power_Loss_Ct  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       14
183 SATA_Interfac_Downshift 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
184 Error_Correction_Count  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   074   056   000    Old_age   Always       -       26 (Min/Max 17/44)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1
197 Current_Pending_ECC_Cnt 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0030   100   100   000    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
202 Percent_Lifetime_Remain 0x0030   098   098   001    Old_age   Offline      -       2
206 Write_Error_Rate        0x000e   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       0
246 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       73583035485
247 Host_Program_Page_Count 0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       2300122458
248 FTL_Program_Page_Count  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       1293712675
180 Unused_Reserve_NAND_Blk 0x0033   000   000   000    Pre-fail  Always       -       9406
210 Success_RAIN_Recov_Cnt  0x0032   100   100   000    Old_age   Always       -       304

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged

SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num  Test_Description    Status                  Remaining  LifeTime(hours)  LBA_of_first_error
# 1  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     31327         -
# 2  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     30517         -
# 3  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     29707         -
# 4  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     49182         -
# 5  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     48889         -
# 6  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     48554         -
# 7  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     48196         -
# 8  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     47859         -
# 9  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     47522         -
#10  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     47188         -
#11  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     46851         -
#12  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     46515         -
#13  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     46179         -
#14  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     45820         -
#15  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     45483         -
#16  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     45148         -
#17  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     44810         -
#18  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     44475         -
#19  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     44138         -
#20  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     43804         -
#21  Vendor (0xff)       Completed without error       00%     43445         -

SMART Selective self-test log data structure revision number 1
SPAN  MIN_LBA  MAX_LBA  CURRENT_TEST_STATUS
    1        0        0  Not_testing
    2        0        0  Not_testing
    3        0        0  Not_testing
    4        0        0  Not_testing
    5        0        0  Not_testing
Selective self-test flags (0x0):
  After scanning selected spans, do NOT read-scan remainder of disk.
If Selective self-test is pending on power-up, resume after 0 minute delay.

Update:
The Micron Storage Executive SMART information as below:

Drive* - Good Health
Micron_1100_MTFDDAK2T0TBN
Current Firmware: M0MU030

ID    Description    Attribute Data    Units
1    Raw Read Error Rate    39    Errors/Page
5    Reallocated NAND Block Count    1    NAND Blocks
9    Power On Hours Count    50305    Hours
12    Power Cycle Count    16    Power Cycles
171    Program Fail Count    0    NAND Page Program Failures
172    Erase Fail Count    0    NAND Block Erase Failures
173    Block Wear-Leveling Count    44    Erases
174    Unexpected Power Loss Count    14    Unexpected Power Loss events
180    Unused Reserved Block Count    9406    Blocks
183    SATA Interface Downshift    0    Downshifts
184    Error Correction Count    0    Correction Events
187    Reported Uncorrectable Errors    0    ECC Correction Failures
194    Enclosure Temperature    29    Current Temperature (C)
44    Highest Lifetime Temperature (C)
196    Reallocation Event Count    1    Events
197    Current Pending ECC Count    0    ECC Counts
198    SMART Off-line Scan Uncorrectable Errors    0    Errors
199    Ultra-DMA CRC Error Count    0    Errors
202    Percentage Lifetime Remaining    98    % Lifetime Remaining
206    Write Error Rate    0    Program Fails/MB
210    RAIN Successful Recovery Page Count    304    TUs successfully recovered by RAIN
246    Cumulative Host Sectors Written    73583035485    512 Byte Sectors
247    Host Program Page Count    2300122458    NAND Page
248    FTL Program Page Count    1293713160    NAND Page

 

[newabc]

I'm not very good at translating LBA to terabytes, but it looks like the drives have had 5 years of power on time, only terabytes written, and like 31 power cycles. 100% reserved space. So they are probably fine.
I think people, or at least me, get excited about the idea of giant piles of storage just... escaping into the wild at once.

After looked at the smart info of mine, I agree with you that they are probably fine.

My guess: Probably they were used as the always-on drives for temperately data storage media between hot and cold-down data.

 

[NachoCDN]

just received the drives and here are the details.






overall I consider the purchase a success

 

[Whaaat]

just received the drives and here are the details.

It's strange that 'Average block erase count' equals to the 'life remaining' in this software. What does 'Micron storage executive' reads about these drives?

 

[NachoCDN]

It's strange that 'Average block erase count' equals to the 'life remaining' in this software. What does 'Micron storage executive' reads about these drives?

here are the micron storage executive smart reports.

 

[zer0sum]

Has anyone cracked one open to see if the PCB is full or half sized?

 

[BeTeP]

Has anyone cracked one open to see if the PCB is full or half sized?

Spoiler

 

[CirosZ]

Thanks all for this thread, I went with the THNSN81Q92CSE, its currently going for $62 and with the endurance its a safer bet than the Micron 1100 [$50] as well as better IO performance than a lot of these cheap new ones (PNY CS900 2TB[$62] or TeamGroup AX2 2tb[$66])

 

[cowonmars]

Thanks all for this thread, I went with the THNSN81Q92CSE, its currently going for $62 and with the endurance its a safer bet than the Micron 1100 [$50] as well as better IO performance than a lot of these cheap new ones (PNY CS900 2TB[$62] or TeamGroup AX2 2tb[$66])

Nice! Yeah the two I purchased perform really well. Very pleased.

 

[Computer cats and more]

Wow those are cheap. I'm kind of spoiled with my Intel S4500 drives and their impressive endurance though. Trying to talk myself into and out of buying a set of 16.

 

[gigatexal]

Ugh, I really don't need more SSDs right now... How many should I buy?

shwifty five ;-)