Looking for a UPS

Wasmachineman_NL

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Since power issues are becoming more of a looming threat on the horizon i'm looking into buying a UPS for my desktop so I can gracefully shut it down should the need arise.

Problem is: which one? I'll be powering two HP Z24i's, my main rig in sig, and when shit actually hits the fan it would be nice if I could charge my Toughbook at least once.

Are the super old APC units a good idea if I replace the batteries on them?
 

Wasmachineman_NL

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I'd recommend the Pure Sine UPS model for your desktop because of this:

You should know how many watts your current equipment draws and how long to expect it to stay in the event of power loss.
I don't expect it to be gaming for hours on a single charge but being able to Alt-F4 from my ChilloutVR or GTA V session and and then hit Alt-F4 again to shut down my system gracefully is enough.
 

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Unpopular opinion: 1- or 3-phase Victron Multiplus II 5000, 14 kWh DYI batteries, 20 kWp or more TrinaSolar 390W panels on the roof, plus a few Victron SmartSolar chargers. The Multiplus can switch within 20ms, which should be enough to act as a "line interactive" UPS. So not an "online" UPS like beefy Eatons 9PX.

Problem: You will be the only one with the lights on. Your internet DSLAM or fiber distribution center will be powered-off many hours before you are affected as well. So no Quake 2 deathmatches in the meantime, only what you prepared in a RetroPi.

Just for graceful shutdown anything really, like a cheap+silent Eaton Ellipse Eco 1600. It's what I use.
 
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I got a used HP T1500 G4 UPS on eBay for under $80, like the one below. It's rebranded Eaton 5SC, a predecessor for Eaton 5P models.
It does pure-sine output, unlike the Ellipse Eco series.

Eatons use a special charging/discharge method to extend battery life significantly.
I bought mine back in March 2020, and it is still running on the batteries it came with (Ie: they were already used)
 

Wasmachineman_NL

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I got a used HP T1500 G4 UPS on eBay for under $80, like the one below. It's rebranded Eaton 5SC, a predecessor for Eaton 5P models.
It does pure-sine output, unlike the Ellipse Eco series.

Eatons use a special charging/discharge method to extend battery life significantly.
I bought mine back in March 2020, and it is still running on the batteries it came with (Ie: they were already used)
If you end up looking to buy new Costco has a CyberPower 1500 W sine wave desktop model for $180 (no membership required).
Ya'll are forgetting i'm in The Netherlands, 230V and Schuko plugs.
 

Wasmachineman_NL

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Unpopular opinion: 1- or 3-phase Victron Multiplus II 5000, 1-3 Seplos Mason 14 kWh DYI batteries, 20 kWp or more TrinaSolar 390W panels on the roof, plus a few Victron SmartSolar chargers to charge the Mason. The Multiplus can switch within 20ms, which should be enough to act as a "line interactive" UPS. So not an "online" UPS like beefy Eatons 9PX.

Problem: You will be the only one with the lights on. Your internet DSLAM or fiber distribution center will be powered-off many hours before you are affected as well. So no Quake 2 deathmatches in the meantime, only what you prepared in a RetroPi.

Just for graceful shutdown anything really, like a cheap+silent Eaton Ellipse Eco 1600. It's what I use.
There's a Ellipse Pro 1600 for €100 on Marktplaats with two new batteries. Tempting!
 

BlueLineSwinger

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Not saying it will happen to you, but there must a good reason why CyberPower is so much cheaper:
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/m0yuri/_/gqauci3 From the same thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/m0yuri/_/gqbycls

Eh, I've seen the same types of user reviews for APC's desktop units. One of my own APC units just up and died for no obvious reason (no AC power issues, overload, etc.).

AFAICT, CyberPower's typical retail pricing for consumer-level devices (i.e., not Costco) is close to APC's.


Ya'll are forgetting i'm in The Netherlands, 230V and Schuko plugs.

D'oh, sorry, missed that.
 

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Ya'll are forgetting i'm in The Netherlands, 230V and Schuko plugs.
PCs, monitors and tvs should be able to use c13 to c14 cables to connect to ups
I use such a powerstrip to "convert" from the c13 of my ups to schuko :D
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Wasmachineman_NL

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I went with the Eaton Ellipse Pro 1600. Batteries are just over a month old.

Let's just hope it isn't loud as hell, i'll be placing it on my subwoofer in the bedroom.
 

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I'd recommend the Pure Sine UPS model for your desktop because of this:
I've got nothing but CyberPower simulated sine wave, and have no issues with either my servers (Supermicro rack mount chassis) or workstations (various machines with Seasonic power supplies).
 

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I'm also a fan of CyberPower. A few years ago I brought up an issue with the firmware and they sent me a different model UPS for free. Currently I'm using a PR3000RT2U and it works fine and has good power consumption.

The APC units that I've had in the past just eat through the batteries.
 

Wasmachineman_NL

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I have received the Eaton UPS and it seems to work fine. I set UPS Companion to shutdown my system after 1 minute of mains failure.

HWiNFO unfortunately cannot read the power measurement though :(
 

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Does it read something or nothing at all?
HWiNFO can read at least the load on my Eaton Power Station 800.
 

Ralph_IT

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The only difference I see between our setups (aside from the UPS unit) is that I use the Eaton Personal Solution PAC, not the Eaton UPS Companion.
 

Wasmachineman_NL

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Welp the UPS has proven it's worth tonight. A 1-second brownout was caught by the Ellipse Pro protecting my main rig. Awesome.
 
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