ISO: Small switch with 2-4 SFP+ ports and POE+

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zer0sum

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Is there a "bargain" switch that covers these requirements?
  • 2-4 SFP+ ports
  • 1-12 1G ports with POE+
I really only need 1 x POE+ port, although having a few might be useful in the future.
I could also live with 1 x SFP+ and 1-3 10G copper ports

The switches I can find that cover off these requirements are all pretty expensive except for the good old ICX7150-C12P

Zyxel XS1930-12HP
10 x 1/2.5/5/10G with 8 having (PoE++)
2 x 10 GbE SFP+

Engenius ECS2512FP
8 x 2.5G (PoE++)
4 x 10 GbE SFP+

Qnap QSW-M2116P-2T2S
2 x 10GbE copper (PoE++)
2 x 10GbE SFP+
16 x 2.5G (PoE+)

Brocade ICX7150-C12P
12 x 1G POE+
2 x 1G uplink RJ-45 ports.
2 x 10 GbE SFP+
 

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Juniper ex2200-c-12p has poe+ but only 2x regular sfp. Usually cheap you should be able to find one for less than 100$.

Juniper ex2300-c-12p same as above but with sfp+. Usually a lot more expensive.

Aruba/hp 2530-8G-PoE+ only.plain.sfp
Aruba/hp 2930f sfp+, poe+.
 
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zer0sum

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Juniper ex2200-c-12p has poe+ but only 2x regular sfp. Usually cheap you should be able to find one for less than 100$.

Juniper ex2300-c-12p same as above but with sfp+. Usually a lot more expensive.
It’s funny that you mention those as I just sold a 2200 and 2300, and I have one last 2300 I’m trying to remove from my network.

The 2300’s are awesome switches, but totally overkill for my needs so I’d rather change to something cheaper and use the money for other fun stuff
 

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It’s funny that you mention those as I just sold a 2200 and 2300, and I have one last 2300 I’m trying to remove from my network.

The 2300’s are awesome switches, but totally overkill for my needs so I’d rather change to something cheaper and use the money for other fun stuff
ICX 6450-24P?
 

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Not inexpensive, but keep your eyes open for the Cisco 3560CX-12PD switch... 12x 1G PoE+, 2x1G nonPoE, 2x SFP+, and fanless. I have one on my desk.
 
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zer0sum

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Seems I might have to drop the POE requirement and just use an injector or two :(

The price of used Brocade ICX7150-C12P switches has gone a little nuts and they're all $400+ now, so it looks like maybea Zyxel or Qnap might be the best compact low end switches. Anyone know of any others worth considering?

Zyxel XGS1250-12 - $239
8 x RJ-45 1G
3 x RJ-45 10G
1 x SFP+ 10G
web managed

Zyxel XGS1210-12 - $179
8 x RJ-45 1G
2 x RJ-45 2.5GbE
2 x SFP+ 10G
web managed

Zyxel XGS1010-12 - $149
8 x RJ-45 1G
2 x RJ-45 2.5G
2 x SFP+ 10G
unmanaged

QNAP QSW-2104-2S-US - $159
2 x SFP+ 10G
4 x RJ45 2.5G
unmanaged
 
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You could look at hp procurve 1810-8.
Simple, manageble l2, can be powered with poe in. Should be below 20$.

What I'm missing in that switch is a proper cli, don't like webuis. No sfps though.
 

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How about a rb260gsp or a crs106-1c-5s by Mikrotik? I have one rb260gs and it has been working flawlessly for a few years now.
 

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Im surprised nobody has mentioned FS.com. They are essentially 'reference' implementation of Broadcom switch platforms. I was in exactly the same situation and ended up with something like the S3150-8T2FP @ FS S3150-8T2FP 8-Port Fanless Gigabit Managed PoE+ Switch with 2 1Gb SFP Uplinks 150W - FS Germany or something like it. They essentially built switches with most variations in ports, power and management (unmanaged, noob-managed with some wanky 'smart managed' nonsense and normal managed).

Even on the cheapest 'partially' managed models it has reasonable features:
  • Up to 8 PoE+ Ports, Total Budget 65W
  • Fanless Design, Always Working Silently (this has got to be some chinglish)
  • Support VLAN, ACL, QoS, etc.
  • L2+ Enterprise-Level Features
  • Complete Security Polices
  • Support CLI/SSH/Telnet/WEB GUI/SNMP for Flexible Operation

The 'problem' with most switches is that you either get a consumer tier thing which often ends up having 1 or 2 fabric ASICs with some basic MAC and VLAN support, usually between 5 and 16 ports. Everything beyond that nearly immediately ends up in the next tier of ASICs that start with 48 ports or with 16 SFP+ ports and 10G ports etc, but between those two there isn't a whole lot, except hacky stuff where they abuse the inter-ASIC link for fake 10G and 40G ports that end up linking correctly but have no buffers or 'add-on' SRAM buffers that can barely hold a handful of frames. Most of the time it's simply not economical for the ASCI manufacturers to make something in between, and unlike multicore CPUs you almost never can fuse off the bad cores and sell it as a lower tier chip; a bad ASIC simply won't switch packets.

Due to the nature of SDN there has been a bit of a market for the smaller port counts where the forwarding fabric is combined for fewer but faster ports (so for a 10G uplink) but those are generally just as costly as a full switch and mostly useful for size-constrained installations like 10inch mobile racks. And then there's NBaseT which also made a bit of a change in switch ASIC land where the chips suddenly had a disconnect between port count and switch fabric bandwidth where one doesn't always affect the other. Still relatively early on the mass production for those (think 2.5G and 5G links) but that would get more 'dynamic' fabric configurations for smaller requirements like your wish for a reasonable switch with PoE and a few extra ports but with good speeds.
 
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zer0sum

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Thank you for the additional suggestions but one thing I can't compromise on is having 2-4 SFP+ ports as I need 10Gbps.

POE is one area I'm ok dropping, as I can just add some injectors :)
 

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In that case you'd be stuck with either something like a used HPE or a BCM56150 based device like S3900-24T4S, but that's 19 inch so a bit incompatible with the 'small' requirement :p

The Zyxel and QNAP devices are like the Mikrotik ones where they essentially use the inter-ASIC fabric to kludge together the ports you want, but the buffers and forwarding capacity suffers for it. It seems UniFi US-XG-6PoE devices can do it but they immediately double in price, probably because it's just a 'big' switch in a small box with disabled/cut off ports.
 

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On the same topic can anyone recommend a cheap l2 or l3 8-12 port gigabit switch with a proper cli? Can be without poe, more important that it is silent, small and cheap. Hp 1810 does not have a cli.

I'm using these in summer cabins etc.
 

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The only ones I can find are either prosumer or FS.com Broadcom reference design switches. Generally Broadcom switches all use the same switchdrv stack but it's up to the OEM to enable cli over serial/telnet/ssh and web interfaces etc. Even Unifi has switches based on the exact same thing.
 
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Rttg

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On the same topic can anyone recommend a cheap l2 or l3 8-12 port gigabit switch with a proper cli? Can be without poe, more important that it is silent, small and cheap.
The ICX-6430-C12 and ICX-6450-C12 switches might fit the bill (‘30 is L2 only, ‘50 has L3 routing). Both are fanless and can be found on eBay for just over $100.
 

Sealside

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The ICX-6430-C12 and ICX-6450-C12 switches might fit the bill (‘30 is L2 only, ‘50 has L3 routing). Both are fanless and can be found on eBay for just over $100.
Yes not bad. Good suggestion, thanks! I sort of missed the ICX-6450, been looking at the 7150-C12.
For around 100$ it would be ok. I sometimes find the ex2200-C12P for around that price I guess they are somewhat equal.

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