Intel Xeon E5-2680v2

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mmo

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just notice the 2680v2 is dropped back to around $180 now...
 

abq

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just notice the 2680v2 is dropped back to around $180 now...
Glad to see E5-V2 prices finally coming back down. I think we will see older generations (CPU, Memory, & Storage) drop in value quicker again, once current generation tech starts shipping in volumn to met demand.
 

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Glad to see E5-V2 prices finally coming back down. I think we will see older generations (CPU, Memory, & Storage) drop in value quicker again, once current generation tech starts shipping in volumn to met demand.
I suspect the drop for E5-2680v2 CPUs is related to the dropoff in Cryptonight mining profits. In December you could make $150/mo off a Dual E5-2680v2, and in the last month or so this has been more in the $20-40/mo range -- barely worth the cost of power.

At least one large ebay seller explicitly said they were raising prices on these cpus because of demand from miners. I have to assume that demand has dried up.
 
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funkywizard

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Never said it was a con, you must have some problems with reading comprehension.

I said if you don't already have v1 processors the price is decent, but the incremental gains I can get from upgrading from v1 to v2 processors is not worth more than $150 each to me, and I doubt its worth that much in general.
That's a reasonable point of view. It probably isn't worth it to upgrade an existing v1 server to v2 cpus unless you specifically need that extra processing power or you are looking to standardize a fleet of servers.

On the other hand, I personally would rather set up any new servers with the 2680v2 rather than any lower end cpus. Even though more expensive, the total cost of the server is pretty low, and the v2 should remain an attractive platform for an extra year or two after I see myself retiring v1's. The extra lifespan there is valuable for obvious reasons, but also, not having to swap out to v2 cpus down the road is a good time savings.
 

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And if it was really the crypto guys pushing demand then they probably stripped the ram and dumped it on the market already when the purchased the boxes... if that’s the case we may see a bunch of new cpu’s and systems on the market and people looking for ram.
 

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The 2680 v2 is indeed attractive. But complete X9 systems are in my opinion still too expensive for being so old. A complete system with two cpus, motherboard and with 64GB DDR3 ram is around 900-1000 USD. A new Epyc 7401P with a Supermicro MBD-H11SSL-I-B and 64GB ram is less than 2000 USD. While 1000 USD may be significant sum of money for someone, if you look at the long term investment the Epyc should pay off.
 

alex_stief

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But as some people here would tell you: Epyc is good for benchmarks, but fails in real-world applications :rolleyes:
 

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It is true that benchmarks never tells the whole story. Though I am pretty sure that for data analytics platforms like Clickhouse, maybe Hadoop, that Epyc will scale exceptionally well with its massive amount of cores and increased memory bandwidth. And data analytics is a huge market.
 

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The 2680 v2 is indeed attractive. But complete X9 systems are in my opinion still too expensive for being so old. A complete system with two cpus, motherboard and with 64GB DDR3 ram is around 900-1000 USD. A new Epyc 7401P with a Supermicro MBD-H11SSL-I-B and 64GB ram is less than 2000 USD. While 1000 USD may be significant sum of money for someone, if you look at the long term investment the Epyc should pay off.
Double the price is double the price. Is it double the value? I'm not so sure.
 

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with ryzen 2700x going for $330, to get 1800 on cinebench, all you need is dual e5-2670 (cinebench 2000) for around $200 for two cpu to easily beat 2700x in multithread. I was hoping the 2660 v2 would also drop in price but not yet.

it's good to see 2680 v2 going back down to $180.... so for $360, dual 2680 v2 will substantially be faster than any 2700x (and probably would be still faster than possibly even ryzen 2 but we'll see?)

I am wondering if it will ever get to the point where the new cpu would finally be more cost effective even for multithread. obviously we still got a long way to go for any ryzen or coffee lake to make up the price of ddr3 vs ddr4....
 
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alex_stief

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I think that's the real issue here: very expensive DDR4 compared to still fairly cheap DDR3. Although DDR3 prices also went up over the last few months as far as I can tell.