HPE ProLiant Microserver Gen10 Advice/ Suggestions

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  1. Patrick

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    It seems like forever ago we did the HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 launch piece.

    Since then, a friend at AMD asked me to take a look at the unit and give my thoughts. I said yes and ordered one which arrived today.

    @pyro_ It looks like you bought one. Any thoughts or ideas on configurations?

    I am trying to figure out what the review configuration should be. Any insights would be appreciated.
     
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    You get the 2c or the 4c?

    HPE should do a Zen refresh.

    For some reason specs state max 4tb drives... please test that. :)
    32GB 2400t, 4x 8tb, sata ssd in optical bay, 10gbit nic.
     
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    4C AMD Opteron X3421. Great idea on the 4TB limit. I have a few 10TB that I was going to use elsewhere.
     
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    Since I know a lot of us are buying the X3216 versions, I wanted to note quickly that there is an onboard 7-pin SATA port but no power. You can use a molex splitter than a Molex -> SATA cable and power a SSD where the

    Molex Splitter Pack:
    https://www.amazon.com/Computer-Molex-Power-Supply-Splitter/dp/B07945ZZ59/
    Molex to SATA Pack
    https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-3-Pack-Molex-Power/dp/B00STNUB04/

    I had the extra SATA cable sitting around. Buying both an using Velcro + SATA cables laying around saved me $6 on the first machine and I have enough to do another versus getting the official SSD enablement kit.
     
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    This morning, I read some of HP Gen10 with Linux, OMV , FreeeNAS threads and blogs.
    Lots of problems during installation.
    The problems happened in 2017 and early 2018, I am hoping most of the software problem is resolved now.

    I ended up purchased 2 units. Keeping fingers and toes crossed.

    Leaving these links here, it also included workarounds and solutions.
    HP microserver Gen10 - openmediavault

    Installation stops after a few seconds on a Microserver Gen10

    BUILD - HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 Entry - Opteron X3216 - ECC RAM - FreeNAS compatible?

    FreeNAS installation workaround
    Fresh Install of FreeNAS-11.1 on HPE ProLiant MicroServer Gen10 X3216
    221350 – Unable to boot/install on HPE Proliant MicroServer Gen10 (AMD Opteron X3000): Hangs/Panics

    This link is the most comprehensive version of workaround for FreeNAS
    Fix for FreeNAS on HPE MicroServer Gen10 X3216 Stuck Console Issue
     
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    i was about to pull the trigger for 2 and saw your comments with the issues it's having currently. I might dig it out more before buying it.
     
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    Ubuntu 18.04.1 installed without an issue:
    upload_2018-12-16_12-59-52.png
     
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    Good news for Ubuntu 18

    FreeNAS
    Fix for FreeNAS on HPE MicroServer Gen10 X3216 Stuck Console Issue
    looking at comments on Dec 2018

    Anonymous December 6, 2018 at 4:15 am

    FreeBSD Bug #221350 is still unresolved, and this method is no longer working as of FreeNAS 11.2-RC2. The boot loader has changed from GRUB to the native FreeBSD boot loader.

    New work around may be to extract the iso and use a hex editor to change the value of realloc_bars to zero in boot/kernel/kernel and/or add the options to boot/loader.conf. Haven't had success with either.
     
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    Good to know on FreeNAS. I hate to say it, but sometimes Linux is just easier with hardware compatibility.

    Edit: Docker installed and benchmarks running.
     
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    https://www.amazon.com/Port-M-2-PCI-adapter-SI-PEX40115/dp/B01L83Z7Z0
    Anyone want to try a pcie 1x sata m.2 for boot?
    the first slot is x8 electrical, 2nd is x1 electrical.
     
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    @Patrick

    I'm thinking of putting a unit for offsite backup. My line of thinking is to install Esxi, either Napp-it VM and pfSense VM with site-site config. So the question is can I do a pass thru' of onboard SATA or should I just drop in a HBA. Either case need to verify the chipset supports equivalent of the VT-d. May be this is a good item to include in the review.

    My google-fu is not having much luck today. I know with the default 8GB, I will most likely need more RAM.
     
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    IOMMU is present, but this is probably not the device that I would pick for pass-through.

    At the same time, I do think that you can run Proxmox or Ubuntu as a base OS and run whatever virtualized. The offsite backup was actually my plan at first.

    @Patriot Trying these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DCQ958L/ with cheap Optane x2 drives and https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079X7K6VP/ to boot. I think on those cards the SATA is wired, so then you do not need to use the Molex's.
     
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    I ordered 2 Gen10 , 8 x 8 WD disk in a BestBuy shopping bag ( waiting for stress testing first )

    Plan for 1 of the Gen10 , since the CPU is a low power 2 core version , don't plan on running VM , may be some dockers.
    This looks interesting
    Installing ZFS on a New Openmediavault Install Using Proxmox Kernel
     
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    Can anyone post power consumption for network appliance usage?
     
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    Hey @Patrick, do an lspci -vv | grep ACSCtl and let me know if AMD-Vi shows up to play in Ubuntu?
    Kinda want to know if I should consider one for hypervisor duty...
     
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    Yes. Pretty please.
    I do not know what happened between AMD and HPE when the Microserver Gen10 was designed, but it looks like a total contingency operation. As far as I know there is no other device using a Opteron X3000 series CPUs - and I find that odd.
     
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    @WANg I think we set it in the BIOS, but not coming up now. Let me re-check when we get another KVM hooked up to it.
     
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    Probably about the same as the old G7s, they are both 15w chips. My guess is about 45-65w loaded with 4 7200rpm spinners.
     
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    google-fu turned this up: Idle Power Requirements HPE ProLiant Gen10 MicroServer

    ~30W idle fully loaded (6 drives, 2 stick of RAM)

    With only a SSD and 5400 RPM drive I'm hoping <10W idle and <30W load
     
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