EU HGST 4U SAS3 12GB/s Storage Enclosure 60 bays £299

denywinarto

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Any idea where to find the rails for this chassis? Or maybe a universal rail that is compatible?
Ok i finally got the railkit,
But i can't figure out how to install it.
The manual says i need to remove the inner rail. But i cant seem to do it,
it's extending but then it's stuck at that position (2nd pic) even with latch pressed
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Is it supposed to be like this? If so how would i install the rails onto the enclosure? Can't imagine something this heavy easily slide in.. anyone with mounting experience care to enlight me?
 

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Looks like the chassis needs to be dropped down from the top, when the rails are extended.

Dell has the same kind of rails.
 

denywinarto

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Looks like the chassis needs to be dropped down from the top, when the rails are extended.

Dell has the same kind of rails.
Hmm i don't know, the manual says it has to be pushed in from the front side

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But i'm not sure if the chassis could lock in just by sliding it like that, can anyone verify?
 

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Page 43 - but I think to remember it was difficult with the white buttons
 

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Finally figure it out! I thought it was the metal clasp, didnt notice the white latch with arrow near it! Thanks Rand_!
 
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Hmm after several HDDs dying i'm not sure if non-spinning HDD is immune to blackouts.. I've had 3 HDDs dying on me this year already, and it always happens after blackout.
The host server always gets shutdown first, so theoretically the HDD shouldn't be spinning.
But once the UPS drained off, the rack loses power without proper shutdown..
There's still absolutely no way to gracefully shutdown the rack huh?
 
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Hm
I've been cutting power to mine several times in the last months due to some maintenance or other and did not have a single issue with the drives...
 

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By maintenance you mean adding / replacing drives? I never had to turn it off when doing so

Well to be fair, the dying hdds were already 3-4 years old.. so age is probably a factor too.. I just find it odd that it always happens after blackouts.
Could also because stablebit scanner detects it late too..
 

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No, maintenance on the host and or power cables/distribution or when i checked my second box.
 

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Actually I am not, the second one is not up, just needed to run a few tests and was too lazy to set up a secondary physical box just for that.
But electricity is up the roof nevertheless, but thats another discussion :D
 

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A year ago I started asking around if anyone was able to run anything else than HGST branded drives in these. The conclusion from this forum, and many of the sellers (eBay and others) seemed to indicate that there was limitation in place with the brands of drives you could have running - this was also mentioned in the documentation. Some of the sellers actually tested this themselves, with various Seagate drives they had laying around. Back then, they confirmed that they (the Seagate drives) did indeed not work with the HGST 4U 60. This was true for the GEN1 - GEN3.

For the people that run these at home, are you only using HGST branded drives? Or have you had difference experience than the above?
 

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It depends on the firmware, older ones do run other drives - at least thats the case for the G1
 

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A year ago I started asking around if anyone was able to run anything else than HGST branded drives in these. The conclusion from this forum, and many of the sellers (eBay and others) seemed to indicate that there was limitation in place with the brands of drives you could have running - this was also mentioned in the documentation. Some of the sellers actually tested this themselves, with various Seagate drives they had laying around. Back then, they confirmed that they (the Seagate drives) did indeed not work with the HGST 4U 60. This was true for the GEN1 - GEN3.

For the people that run these at home, are you only using HGST branded drives? Or have you had difference experience than the above?
i have gen 1 unit, firmware 0210. i can use seagate 10tb disks. tried with 4 seagate 10tb
 

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Actually I am not, the second one is not up, just needed to run a few tests and was too lazy to set up a secondary physical box just for that.
But electricity is up the roof nevertheless, but thats another discussion :D
Is your rack full btw?
I'm thinking of getting for a new UPS with longer backup time, so that at least the rack can hold up during blackouts
what specs would you recommend if i want like 3+ hours backup? Assuming the rack is full

A year ago I started asking around if anyone was able to run anything else than HGST branded drives in these. The conclusion from this forum, and many of the sellers (eBay and others) seemed to indicate that there was limitation in place with the brands of drives you could have running - this was also mentioned in the documentation. Some of the sellers actually tested this themselves, with various Seagate drives they had laying around. Back then, they confirmed that they (the Seagate drives) did indeed not work with the HGST 4U 60. This was true for the GEN1 - GEN3.

For the people that run these at home, are you only using HGST branded drives? Or have you had difference experience than the above?
Gen1 here. Never used seagate brands since they have bad reps on backblaze's reports,
HGST and WD drives only
 

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Is your rack full btw?
I'm thinking of getting for a new UPS with longer backup time, so that at least the rack can hold up during blackouts
what specs would you recommend if i want like 3+ hours backup? Assuming the rack is full
Full and Full are different things ... you know physical size might not be related to (peak) power draw.

You should try to get a rough feeling for what you use everyday vs peak vs minimum config for blackout times.

I upgraded recently since I was not happy with runtime and now have a SMX1500 + extension and a secondary SMX2200 (I got relatively cheap), but have not properly distributed things yet.
The 1500x (with extension) claims 1:30 runtime at current 50% utilization.
Depending on your draw it might take quite a bit to cover 3hrs ... maybe consider an optional blackout plan (running most important services on less boxes)
 
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