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EvilMagpie

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Interesting, I bought a QJW0 a couple of years ago and I've never gotten it to work on my X11SPL-F. It powers up but it doesn't POST. I have BIOS 2.1 on that one.
A vanilla retail Xeon Bronze 3104 works perfectly fine, though.
For all the sellers with a QJW0 at the moment, it looks like there's conflicting information: one screenshot says it's an A2 stepping, but the listing description says B0. Is it actually A2 and not B0?
 

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For all the sellers with a QJW0 at the moment, it looks like there's conflicting information: one screenshot says it's an A2 stepping, but the listing description says B0. Is it actually A2 and not B0?
50651 A2
the seller have no clue or just copy from other faulty listing.
with a little luck it works on SM at BIOS 1.0 but no chance above.
 
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rrubberr

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Hey everyone, I’m seeing an abundant supply of 8375C (SRKUS) “QS” processors on eBay for under $1,000.

Any ideas of the maximum memory capacity on these? Also, does ES/QS have proper Optane PMEM support?

Any idea if they’re supported on boards like the SuperMicro X12SPZ-SPLN6F? Looks like the 8375C TDP is 330 watts.

Thanks.
 
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I’m seeing an abundant supply of 8375C (SRKUS) “QS” processors
SRKUS or QS, can not be both.
QVLP is 2.80Ghz ES2 stepping C0. (the bad one not showing model)
QWAE is 2.90Ghz ES2 stepping D0 (the good one but still not showing model)

Any idea if they’re supported on boards like the SuperMicro X12SPZ-SPLN6F?
generaly all supermicro UP boards do not run ES with B0/C0 (step 4,5) stepping.
the only known SM board with ES(step 4,5) support is X12DPi-N(T)6
stepping D0 (step 6) runs fine on all boards with latest BIOS so far.
ASRock SC621 and Gigabyte MU72/MD72 do support ES.
Looks like the 8375C TDP is 330 watts.
330Watts is not the problem but supermicro can block that in the future like done on X11SPL / X11SPM boards.
 
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rrubberr

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SRKUS or QS, can not be both.
QVLP is 2.80Ghz ES2 stepping C0. (the bad one not showing model)
QWAE is 2.90Ghz ES2 stepping D0 (the good one but still not showing model)


generaly all supermicro UP boards do not run ES with B0/C0 (step 4,5) stepping.
the only known SM board with ES(step 4,5) support is X12DPi-N(T)6
stepping D0 (step 6) runs fine on all boards with latest BIOS so far.
ASRock SC621 and Gigabyte MU72/MD72 do support ES.

330Watts is not the problem but supermicro can block that in the future like done on X11SPL / X11SPM boards.
Thanks very much for the reply. So, as I understand, a final stepping SRKUS will work any board?
 

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Hi everybody
I have SUPERMICRO x11-DPI-NT
Bios X11DPi-N19.129 30a B0
Dual Intel XEON 6138 ES QL1L
SSD NVME CORSAIR MP510
Ram 256Go ECC Registered samsung 16X16gb 2rx4 pc4-2133p-ra0-10-dc0
Fujitsu D3307 MegaRAID with LSI IT mode firmware
ESXI 6.5.0 Update 3

Nothing to report works very well, stable no problem I think to upgrade to an ESXI 6.7.0 then to 8.0
 
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masterdeejay

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Have anyone info about QLRX cpu? It is a Skylake-W or Skylake-X?
LGA2066, early B0/L0 stepping but i want to know it is an unlocked multi or locked?
Seller tells me that is a QS of 7900x and all features almost the same as the retail, but i think he is lying. I only see that a clocks are much lower.

ES version of unlocked retail cpus is also unlocked?
 

masterdeejay

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NOT QS (seller is lying)
SKL L0/B0 50652 (PRD stepping is 50654)
fully locked but works in C422 & X299


yes QS is unlocked if PRD is: (QS is ES too per definition)
Thanks!
The bad thing is i ordered it as 7900x (it was 100 usd), i hope i got a refund or something.
 

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NOT QS (seller is lying)
SKL L0/B0 50652 (PRD stepping is 50654)
fully locked but works in C422 & X299


yes QS is unlocked if PRD is: (QS is ES too per definition)
I tested it, locked. But somehow also bclk is locked and that is bad. If i set to like 101, 125, 133... the pc is starts but turn off after 1-2 sec loop.
It is stable and cool on stock speeds. According to hwinfo ecc mode is working. I use it with cheap ecc reg.
All core turbo is only 2.8ghz, few core turbo 3.2ghz.
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safado

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Probably a long shot but I’ll throw this out there to seek the advice of others way smarter than I.

I’ve narrowed my choices in motherboard down to a single model based on requirements(matx and others) and it’s the X12SPM that appeals to me the most. Unfortunately this means Gen3 Intel Xeon Scalable and after reviewing the value graph here and looking around the cheapest I’m seeing is well over 1k per—even for silver line.

That led me to ES processors and this thread in particular. Are ES processors in Gen3 line something worth considering or is it going to be such a specific config that it’s not worth pursuing?

Thank you for the advice!
 

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Are ES processors in Gen3 line something worth considering or is it going to be such a specific config that it’s not worth pursuing?
there are ES1 and ES2 3rd gen. avoid ES1.
for ES1 QU9B/QU99/QV2? i.e. you need X12DPi-N6 BIOS lower than 1.2 to work or on UP motherboards unofficial BIOS 1.0.
ES2 step 6 work on all SM boards, i have QWAQ 6330 ES2 working on X12SPL/X12SPM.
your X12SPM (i have one too) runs only ES2 stepping D0 (step 6)
if you can get BIOS 1.0
downgrade to BIOS 1.0 is blocked, the BIOS flash chip must replaced with a preprogrammed one containing BIOS 1.0
 
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there are ES1 and ES2 3rd gen. avoid ES1.
for ES1 QU9B/QU99/QV2? i.e. you need X12DPi-N6 BIOS lower than 1.2 to work or on UP motherboards unofficial BIOS 1.0.
ES2 step 6 work on all SM boards, i have QWAQ 6330 ES2 working on X12SPL/X12SPM.
your X12SPM (i have one too) runs only ES2 stepping D0 (step 6)
if you can get BIOS 1.0
downgrade to BIOS 1.0 is blocked, the BIOS flash chip must replaced with a preprogrammed one containing BIOS 1.0
Thank you very much. I really appreciate you taking the time to respond and help educate me. I’m guessing reaching out to the sellers on eBay to confirm stepping is the recommended course of action since they don’t seem to advertise that.

where are you looking ? silver 4310 starts at $500.
Newegg, Amazon and all the usual places. Must have missed that one in my search—the value guide here on STM with prices seems to be well off of what’s out there in the retail channel. Probably because prices are wholesale etc.
 

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Randomly picked up a Asus Z11PA-D8. Any thoughts on a ES/QS around 24c/48t or 26c/52t that might work in it?
 

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Any thoughts on a ES/QS around 24c/48t or 26c/52t that might work in it?
Gold 6141M QS QN5M 22C 2,1 GHz 150 W (ebay)
do you already have (Square ILM) coolers ? i don't want to sell one, just check prices & avail. maybe after it you don't want that board anymore...