Epyc to replace E5-2630

[Jamy]

I added another 16 GB to "balance" the RAM, it doesn't seem to have much of a difference.

So, if I look at rebuilding with Epyc or Threadripper, is there any reason to go with one over the other, besides the obvious benefit of Epyc being able to be used on multi socket MB's?

 

[T_Minus]

If you are running spinners, your CPU utilization is not high but you don't like performance... why are you not trying to add faster drives like NVME to get an insane boost in latency and overall disk performance first? That will make things seem MUCH snappier. You will want NVME when you upgarde to another CPU\motherboard anyway, so may as well try it on your current system... you'll probably be very surprised AND CPU usage will drop a bit, as no waiting on IO.

Then you can upgrade to a faster single-core performing V3 or V4 E5 for less than $50 for 2 (2697 v3 for example $20\ea), not a huge jump but 15-20% (1700 to 2000 passmark single core perf.)


So you're spending $50 you may not have if you had just jumped to EPYC to see if it works, which could potentially save many hundreds.

 

[Jamy]

If you are running spinners, your CPU utilization is not high but you don't like performance... why are you not trying to add faster drives like NVME to get an insane boost in latency and overall disk performance first? That will make things seem MUCH snappier. You will want NVME when you upgarde to another CPU\motherboard anyway, so may as well try it on your current system... you'll probably be very surprised AND CPU usage will drop a bit, as no waiting on IO.

Then you can upgrade to a faster single-core performing V3 or V4 E5 for less than $50 for 2 (2697 v3 for example $20\ea), not a huge jump but 15-20% (1700 to 2000 passmark single core perf.)


So you're spending $50 you may not have if you had just jumped to EPYC to see if it works, which could potentially save many hundreds.

I'm considering NVME/SSD. I just figure if I'm going to spend that much to get 4TB of solid state, I might as well look at upgrading the processing too.

 

[Jamy]

If you are running spinners, your CPU utilization is not high but you don't like performance... why are you not trying to add faster drives like NVME to get an insane boost in latency and overall disk performance first? That will make things seem MUCH snappier. You will want NVME when you upgarde to another CPU\motherboard anyway, so may as well try it on your current system... you'll probably be very surprised AND CPU usage will drop a bit, as no waiting on IO.

Then you can upgrade to a faster single-core performing V3 or V4 E5 for less than $50 for 2 (2697 v3 for example $20\ea), not a huge jump but 15-20% (1700 to 2000 passmark single core perf.)


So you're spending $50 you may not have if you had just jumped to EPYC to see if it works, which could potentially save many hundreds.

My current MB also doesn't have NVME slots, just SATA ports. I know there is some improvement with SSD on SATA, but not as much as NVME. Seems like a SATA 4TB SSD would be a waste and I'd be better off getting a new MB and using NVME.

 

[T_Minus]

Most motherboards don't have NVME slots or ports, you need to use a PCIE NVME HBA or PCIE NVME ADAPTER like a Funtin adapter to convert PCIE to 2.5" nvme.

Check out Ebay, a 4TB used enterprise drive sells for around $225-300 depending on the drive, and 2TB are now 125-200 depending on drive and condition. I've seen 7-8TB NEW Intel Enterprise NVME on ebay for 350-380$ too. Prices have come down A LOT.

 

[vvkvvk]

Your boards top-most PCIe slot is blocked by the memory slots so it would be perfect for something like this https://www.amazon.com/M-2-Adapter-Aluminum-Heatsink-Solution/dp/B07JJTVGZM and cheap M.2 drive for starters to see if it improves.

I wouldn't worry about being future proof, most likely you'll toss that SSD for larger one in the future.

 

[Patriot]

I'm considering NVME/SSD. I just figure if I'm going to spend that much to get 4TB of solid state, I might as well look at upgrading the processing too.

What do you mean spend that much?
slap something like this on each sockets lanes if you don't want to deal with adapters to u.2

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If the motherboard doesnt have UEFI drivers for nvme that just means you can't boot from them.

There are plenty of pcie to u.2 adapters available, something with many ports like this, would require bifurcation support.

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[Jamy]

Most motherboards don't have NVME slots or ports, you need to use a PCIE NVME HBA or PCIE NVME ADAPTER like a Funtin adapter to convert PCIE to 2.5" nvme.

Check out Ebay, a 4TB used enterprise drive sells for around $225-300 depending on the drive, and 2TB are now 125-200 depending on drive and condition. I've seen 7-8TB NEW Intel Enterprise NVME on ebay for 350-380$ too. Prices have come down A LOT.

I'm not sure why that didn't occur to me, as I actually have one of those in my TrueNAS server... Too many things on my mind I guess.