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AdamAu

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Ordered the CW-AL-4L N305 tall-fin (case Type C, I suppose), and the Unit, arrived, yesterday.

I received a CW-AL-4L-V2.0 N305 tall-fin Unit :)

......

Heartened by the statements of success in the comments to:

Beelink EQ12 Pro: Cheap Home Server with 8 Cores and 32 GB RAM . . .

. . . I purchased a Crucial CT48G56C46S5.M16B1 48GB SODIMM for the unit. It arrived, today.

48GB recognized, and "Populated & Enabled" ;)

.......

I have populated the Unit with two PCIe 3.0 x4 Inland Premiums, and a Crucial 48GB SODIMM, and only just now gained access to the BIOS.

The Unit is (subjectively) comfortably warm to the touch with such (e.g., "no load"). Simple CPU -> Copper-Block -> Frame design.

Now, testing will begin :)
Thanks for the update splifingate. and thanks for taking the leap with the 48GB dimm.
 

ToniCipriani

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Ordered the CW-AL-4L N305 tall-fin (case Type C, I suppose), and the Unit, arrived, yesterday.

I received a CW-AL-4L-V2.0 N305 tall-fin Unit :)

On the outside, it was (somewhat) different than the original photos/specs which led me to purchase.

6 USB 2.0
2 USB 3.0

Outside these (and a physical ON/OFF external switch (the usage of which is currently indeterminate)), the rest of the external portage is the same.

Multiple photos, attached.

Heartened by the statements of success in the comments to:

Beelink EQ12 Pro: Cheap Home Server with 8 Cores and 32 GB RAM . . .

. . . I purchased a Crucial CT48G56C46S5.M16B1 48GB SODIMM for the unit. It arrived, today.

48GB recognized, and "Populated & Enabled" ;)

Contrary to the posts (before, where HDMI was problematic)) I have only been able successfully get to BIOS with an HDMI screen (old 19" dell 1080p). My Dell P2715 would not respond....

I have populated the Unit with two PCIe 3.0 x4 Inland Premiums, and a Crucial 48GB SODIMM, and only just now gained access to the BIOS.

The Unit is (subjectively) comfortably warm to the touch with such (e.g., "no load"). Simple CPU -> Copper-Block -> Frame design.

Now, testing will begin :)
The physical ON/OFF toggle is for determining whether it will automatically power on when you plug the machine in.
 

splifingate

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First-boot to a live (Void) thumb on a SS blue port was quite fast.

nvme1 LnkSta: Speed 8GT/s, Width x4
nvme2: LnkSta: Speed 8GT/s, Width x1

Port-facing USB 3.x is available, and active.

My network is currently all 1G (1G symm. fiber ISP), and my one ether connect negotiated smoothly.

~940 up/down

lspci/lsusb photos attached
 

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Pro100x3mal

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First-boot to a live (Void) thumb on a SS blue port was quite fast.

nvme1 LnkSta: Speed 8GT/s, Width x4
nvme2: LnkSta: Speed 8GT/s, Width x1

Port-facing USB 3.x is available, and active.

My network is currently all 1G (1G symm. fiber ISP), and my one ether connect negotiated smoothly.

~940 up/down

lspci/lsusb photos attached
Could you test the write speed on both nvme? It’s just that the manufacturer himself states that both m.2 have one pcie 3 x1 lane. And for some reason you have one full pcie 3 x4
 

kliguin

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From an earlier post.

There are three editions of 4 ports:
1. 1 NVME x 4 and 4 USB 2.0
2. 1 NVME x 1, 2 SATA 3.0, 4 USB 2.0 and 2 USB 3.0, and 1 USB C
3. 2 NVME x 1, 2 SATA 3.0, 5 USB 2.0 and 1 USB 3.0, and 1 USB C

Configuration 2 and 3 basically split 1 NVME x4 into SATA, USB 3.0 and USB C. Same for 5 ports and 6 ports configurations. You can just check the number of USB 3.0 ports to identity the differences.


So

1. (Hunsn RJ37 RJ38 RJ39??)
2. (Hunsn RJ42 RJ43 RJ44??)
3.(???)
 

splifingate

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Could you test the write speed on both nvme? It’s just that the manufacturer himself states that both m.2 have one pcie 3 x1 lane. And for some reason you have one full pcie 3 x4
I am a few days-away from such. Plan to purchase a few Hynix P31's tmrw.

When I first opened the package, and saw the new USB port config. (and the SATA port on the inside), I was "oh, cripes . . . they reduced the m.2 lanes".

I Chat'ed with the CWWK associate about the lack of manual/specifications after receipt (the box strangely included a quad-fold 'Manual' for the MGCN51N), and asked for a link to an online resource . . . he/she demurred, stating that it's an as-not-yet-released product, and that details would be forthcoming (which seems silly, to me, as I had the Unit in-hand (and--obviously--the peeps @cwwk are definitely privy to such information)).

Nevertheless, I have no reason *not* to trust lspci {shrugs}

My saf MP5,1 is *still* writing ubuntu-23.10.1 to a USB 2.0 device (had an afternoon event, and Sleep prevented completion). Even though I weaned myself on Debian, I'm not a big fan of systemd . . . but I can work with it ;)

I need to get my mind around this new tech, and do a little more role-playing before I actually start installing things to the gumsticks. Trust that I'll share, when I can.
 
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hl100

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Ordered the CW-AL-4L N305 tall-fin (case Type C, I suppose), and the Unit, arrived, yesterday.

I received a CW-AL-4L-V2.0 N305 tall-fin Unit :)

On the outside, it was (somewhat) different than the original photos/specs which led me to purchase.

6 USB 2.0
2 USB 3.0

Outside these (and a physical ON/OFF external switch (the usage of which is currently indeterminate)), the rest of the external portage is the same.

Multiple photos, attached.

Heartened by the statements of success in the comments to:

Beelink EQ12 Pro: Cheap Home Server with 8 Cores and 32 GB RAM . . .

. . . I purchased a Crucial CT48G56C46S5.M16B1 48GB SODIMM for the unit. It arrived, today.

48GB recognized, and "Populated & Enabled" ;)

Contrary to the posts (before, where HDMI was problematic)) I have only been able successfully get to BIOS with an HDMI screen (old 19" dell 1080p). My Dell P2715 would not respond....

I have populated the Unit with two PCIe 3.0 x4 Inland Premiums, and a Crucial 48GB SODIMM, and only just now gained access to the BIOS.

The Unit is (subjectively) comfortably warm to the touch with such (e.g., "no load"). Simple CPU -> Copper-Block -> Frame design.

Now, testing will begin :)
Thank you for confirming that 48gb ddr5 single memory is recognized and works!

I am curious why do you think that 2 "inland premium" NVMe disks would work at full capacity? In these 305 units there is only one PCIe 3 slot with 4x lanes, so if maxes out at 4gbs data transfer rate, which maxes out a decent NVMe disks. However, if you install some PCIe extension card, you get 2 slots, or 4 slots, but the rate drops and you will not maximize your disks?
 
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splifingate

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Thank you for confirming that 48gb ddr5 single memory is recognized and works!

I am curious why do you think that 2 "inland premium" NVMe disks would work at full capacity? In these 305 units there is only one PCIe 3 slot with 4x lanes, so if maxes out at 4gbs data transfer rate, which maxes out a decent NVMe disks. However, if you install some PCIe extension card, you get 2 slots, or 4 slots, but the rate drops and you will not maximize your disks?
yw :) When they are available, I believe that 64GB modules will work.

As for the nvme's:

My initial purchase assumption was that I was to receive a tall-fin Unit that has four NICs, and the ability to utilise two PCIe 3 m.2 devices . . . the expectation was that I would be able to have one m.2 operating at x4, and another at x1

On first blush (eyeing the additional ports), I was initially disheartened with the prospect that CWWK had reduced the lanes on the primary m.2 to accommodate the additional ports (precedent exemplified IIRC by the x1 + x1 in the 5L and 6L units).

lspci 'states' that my Unit has one PCIe 3.0 x4 m.2, and one x1 m.2 (via h-board). I am currently in the process of testing the veracity of such.

The Inland's are what I had laying-around, and--both being PCIe 3.0 x4's--seemed like appropriate devices to test the capabilities of the available m.2 ports ;)
 

splifingate

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Tell me, in stress tests and benchmarks does the processor reset its frequency due to overheating? Is there throttling?
I am not quite there, yet. In my current testing, I have had (maybe) 1-3/8 cores operating max ~5% *shrugs*

When I first gained initial access to the BIOS, I was operating the Unit as-shipped . . . the case was comfortably warm.

I have since placed an NF-F12-5V-PWM atop it, and the aluminum fins definitely feel cold.

Subjectively, I foresee regularly smooth operation in the days ahead ;)
 
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splifingate

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I am not quite there, yet. In my current testing, I have had (maybe) 1-3/8 cores operating max ~5% *shrugs*

When I first gained initial access to the BIOS, I was operating the Unit as-shipped . . . the case was comfortably warm.

I have since placed an NF-F12-5V-PWM atop it, and the aluminum fins definitely feel cold.

Subjectively, I foresee regularly smooth operation in the days ahead ;)
fyi: as this is the Networking sub-forum, I should/will wait to submit more det.s, pending the integration/upgrade of my Network . . . another Story, for another Day, as-it-will ;)

Prox, here I come!~
 

Marvin33

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For the 6L version, I suspect the 2 NVMEs are configurable. There's this jumper on my board that seemingly disables one of the slots, so it might give an extra lane to the other slot, not sure.

Also shown is the internal USB 2.0 header, which I am planning to use for the Bluetooth portion of the wireless card I am putting in, just need the pinout for it.

Asking the seller for a clarification right now.
Hello.
Did you manage to find out what this NVME configuration means? Does your CW-ADLN-6L support RAM up to 32GB?