CWWK i5-1235U 6 port i226 report

[enzotekk]

That's quite a Frankenstein there... ;-) is passive cooling so bad in this case ? Is it really necessary? Is there no cutout in bottomplate to mount a small fan inside the case ?

I'm on 20 watts at idle. As ''fta'' says the case dissipates well of her. mine was a whim.
But I have spikes when I run some big load on one vm or turn on multiple vm at the same time.
It depends on what you use it for, if you use only the firewall and some docker that's fine.

The passive cooling in this one is actually pretty good. IIRC, my testing showed it could dissipate around 27W without a fan. With a fan on top it can dissipate around 47W. For reference, mine runs about 15W when doing a 1Gb/s download with NAT and CAKE traffic shaping.

I'm at 20 watts with these services
-OPNsense (3vlan,zenarmor)
-debian container with 10 docker
-pihole container

until 35/37watt when doing 1Gb/s speedtest with OPNsense (with zenarmor)

 

[fta]

I'm at 20 watts with these services
-OPNsense (3vlan,zenarmor)
-debian container with 10 docker
-pihole container

until 35/37watt when doing 1Gb/s speedtest with OPNsense (with zenarmor)

I'm guessing your numbers are at the wall. Mine are what the CPU is reporting as its power consumption. The max TDP is 55W so a dissipation of 47W is pretty close to allowing full use of the CPU indefinitely. At 55W it draws around 90W at the wall if memory serves.

 

[enzotekk]

I'm guessing your numbers are at the wall. Mine are what the CPU is reporting as its power consumption. The max TDP is 55W so a dissipation of 47W is pretty close to allowing full use of the CPU indefinitely. At 55W it draws around 90W at the wall if memory serves.

Exactly, I measure using a wattmeter on the wall.
Can I ask you how you measure the watts on the CPU?
so I can make a comparison with you!
thanks in advance!

 

[fta]

I use netdata, which has a powercap graph. A simpler method is to use the s-tui tool.

 

[enzotekk]

ok thanKs for the info. i installed netdata on proxmox, and this below is the stats of watt about che cpu.
I don't understand if the correct graph is the one above or the one below.
anyway here are my stats!

 

[fta]

ok thanKs for the info. i installed netdata on proxmox, and this below is the stats of watt about che cpu.
I don't understand if the correct graph is the one above or the one below.
anyway here are my stats!
View attachment 32695

The top one is your package power so it’s the main one you care about. You can see in your first spike it went up 13-14W. That’s on par with what I get when doing a 1Gb/s download with NAT and CAKE shaping.

 

[enzotekk]

@fta at the top the spike is 18watt right? it is at the bottom that the spike is 14. So that means my peak consumption on the speedtest is 18watts right?

Since I added the Noctua 140mm fan the processor temperature has dropped by about ~6 degrees. I went from 31 degrees on average to about 25 degrees at idle.

The hottest thing for now is the ssd which is without a heatsink.
I already have a hotfix in mind that I have scheduled in the next few days/weeks.

 

[fta]

at the top the spike is 18watt right? it is at the bottom that the spike is 14. So that means my peak consumption on the speedtest is 18watts right?

You're at ~3W at idle. The peak is ~17W so your speedtest adds 14W.

 

[newabc]

Kingnovy brand has the pentium 8505 model around $2x lower than CWWK and Topton.

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805727672014.html

Is CWWK's service better than the others?

By the way, from Nov 11 to 17, aliexpress has $4 off every $20($16 max) applicable to every order, and 1 in the below 2 coupons applicable: $30 off $200, or $50 off $300.

 

[newabc]

By the way, the changwang.com seems that it was hacked. Some news posts were replaced by some non-relative articles.
Please check all the checksums of the bios downloaded in recent 2-3 months.

 

[enzotekk]

I put some small heat sinks on the nvme SSD, now the situation has improved.
before I had more than 70 degrees peak, now I have 53 degrees peak.
I also modified the small closed slot by inserting a grille to give the SSD more airflow

 

[newabc]

How about using Sata SSD as the boot drive of pfSense/OPNSense?
I think the 8010 fan is for cooling the nvme ssd and other stuffs on the motherboard only. If we use a sata ssd, lesser heat, do we still need to install an 8010 fan on the bottom?

 

[newabc]

Currently the stock Dajing 60w power supply, pentium 8505.

How about if I use a 12v output adapter?
Like MeanWell GST90A12-P1M?

I searched this thread, @fta mentioned GST90A19-P1M and GST90A15-P1M, 19v and 15v.

MeanWell's official data sheet for GST90A series:

https://www.meanwell-web.com/content/files/pdfs/productPdfs/MW/GST90A/GST90A-spec.pdf

GST120A series data sheet:

https://www.meanwell-web.com/content/files/pdfs/productPdfs/MW/GST120A/GST120A-spec.pdf

Update:
I read Patrick's review again, totally agree with his title, "the fanless king". Without the on-the-top fan and the bottom 8010 fan, the highest temperature never over 85C.

 

[fta]

How about if I use a 12v output adapter?
Like MeanWell GST90A12-P1M?

That will work fine.

I searched this thread, @fta mentioned GST90A19-P1M and GST90A15-P1M, 19v and 15v.

IIRC, that was in response to someone who couldn't get the 12V.

 

[Jacen Li]

Hi, I came across this thread while trying to unlock some options on my genmachine i5-1235u box. Unfortunately, it has a different board than the CWWK stuff, so I tried modifying the bios myself. I have also found TDC throttling at ~15-20W, even though the box comes with a PL1 of 55W and a PL2 of 45W stock from factory. I have tried using the UEFI editor tool to unlock menus by removing the suppress if commands, flashing, and swapping the menus in the advanced to CPU Power & Performance. However, when I select the CPU VR settings menu in the bios, the bios freezes, and I have to restart. Have you encountered similar problems while modifying the bios of the CWWK box?

 

[fta]

Hi, I came across this thread while trying to unlock some options on my genmachine i5-1235u box. Unfortunately, it has a different board than the CWWK stuff, so I tried modifying the bios myself. I have also found TDC throttling at ~15-20W, even though the box comes with a PL1 of 55W and a PL2 of 45W stock from factory. I have tried using the UEFI editor tool to unlock menus by removing the suppress if commands, flashing, and swapping the menus in the advanced to CPU Power & Performance. However, when I select the CPU VR settings menu in the bios, the bios freezes, and I have to restart. Have you encountered similar problems while modifying the bios of the CWWK box?

Is it an AMI BIOS? If it is, tell me where to download it, and I might be able to get you set up.

 

[Jacen Li]

Is it an AMI BIOS? If it is, tell me where to download it, and I might be able to get you set up.

yep, its an AMI bios, here is a copy of the bios I dumped using intel FPT

biosreg.zip

drive.google.com

Thanks!

 

[pawasi]

Hi, I have one question, where in bios can I find option responsible for secure boot?

 

[Darkang]

Does those systems, with i3/i5 CPUs supports VT-d by BIOS/mainboard?
VTx should be supported by system/BIOS also CPUs supports VT-d.
I would like to passtrough iGPU to VM in Proxmox and ouput to HDMI/DP - anyone tried that?

Hi ,
This post is a bit old but worth sharing this update.
I followed this guide and got the GPU (Intel Corporation Alder Lake-UP3 GT2 [Iris Xe Graphics]) passthrough working fine after several attempts on my U i5-1234U unit with unlocked Bios.
I am using the latest version of Proxmox 8.1.3 and pinned the kernel 6.5.11-4-pve. I was able to get 7 GPU VFs (virtual functions) , some of them are used in Win11 VMs.
The main issue that I have faced was this limitation " i915 0000:00:02.0: not enough MMIO resources for SR-IOV". After trying a lot of ideas from different forums, I found out how to allocate more memory to MMIO in this Bios section Chipset -> System Agent (SA) configuration -> Above 4GB MMIO BIOS assignment [Enabled].

Regards

 

[MBehr]

Just received my i5-1235U and am getting ready to add memory and drives and noticed mine is a CW-MBX-AD13.5 - I don't see any BIOS's for this one on CWWK's support site - but I'll check what's on this as soon as I get everything installed. Anyone else running this MB version?