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Brocade ICX Series (cheap & powerful 10gbE/40gbE switching)

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etakmit

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So I've tried:

7.4 : works fine
8.0.1 : works fine
8.0.1c : pegged CPU 100%
8.0.10m : pegged CPU 100%
8.0.20d : pegged CPU 100%
8.0.30t : pegged CPU 100%
8.0.30u : pegged CPU 100%

verified that my 6450-28-PoE is running 8.0.30u and that hasn't had a single issue.

this is all with just a serial cable / power (unplug ethernet and wipe config then reload). I did a few upgrades via the bootloader / ethernet only in mgmt port as well.

only a single task
has any CPU usage and its always at 100. I've read though that that is the generic Foundry process basically so it's no surprise (this behavior matches my 24 port as well - that shows 100 on appl at all times - but show cpu never breaks 1%)
 

EmnaX

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Yep, just put a 1 G media converter back in to make sure and I'm getting about 940 Mbps on all devices (both on servers connected with 10 G DAC and laptops connected with 1 G Ethernet).

The 10 G media converter does supply full bandwidth (about 1500 Mbps) to the servers connected using 10 G DACs. In this configuration, the devices connected to the 1 G Ethernet ports on the Brocade switch only get about 600 Mbps instead if something closer to 1 Gbps and that's why I was suspecting the switch.

I have not tried a SFP+ to RJ45 transceiver yet. I'll order the one you have linked too and give it a shot.

I am also going to borrow a UniFi switch later this week with some SFP+ ports and some 1 G Ethernet ports to test and see if I get the same results across a different switch.

Thanks for your suggestions @CIR-Engineering !

I think I fixed my issue!

Quick recap:
ISP provides 1500 Mbps download speed. pfSense router has 10 Gbps link to Brocade ICX6450. On devices connected to 1 Gbps Ethernet ports, I was only getting around 600 Mbps instead of the expected 940 ish Mbps. Devices connected to the 10 Gbps ports on the switch were getting full speed from the ISP (1500 Mbps).

Fix:
Log into the switch and then do the following:

Code:
enable
conf t
symmetric-flow-control enable
show symmetric
write mem
exit

Results:
Running a speed test at www.speedtest.net now gives about 940 Mbps on 1 Gbps Ethernet links :D

I'm not a network guy so I'm not really sure what the difference is between the regular flow-control that is globally enabled by default and this other symmetric-flow-control. For whatever reason though, it seems to fix my issue. It is possible to check the status with show symmetric. And more reading on the setting can be found here: Commscope Technical Content Portal

Other things I tried:
@CIR-Engineering pointed me to a RJ45 transceiver and suggested removing my media converter so I picked that up and gave it a shot but it didn't fix this issue. I also tried removing the Brocade ICX 6450 and replaced it temporarily with a UniFi USW-Pro-8-POE to run the same tests across its 10 Gbps ports and 1 Gbps ports but I got the same strange results (low speeds across 1 Gbps Ethernet ports).
 
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My stupid unifi switch has become a problem and I want it gone.

Am I missing something, because here's an ebay listing for a 100 dollar ICX725048P, which looks like the switch in the OP that has 8 sfp+ 10gb ports and 48 POE 1gb ports and draws 50 watts (plus POE of course.) Is this a different model or have they just dropped in price that much?
 

etakmit

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My stupid unifi switch has become a problem and I want it gone.

Am I missing something, because here's an ebay listing for a 100 dollar ICX725048P, which looks like the switch in the OP that has 8 sfp+ 10gb ports and 48 POE 1gb ports and draws 50 watts (plus POE of course.) Is this a different model or have they just dropped in price that much?
Nah they've come down pretty well at this point. plenty in the 85-125 range (before shipping)
 

Gerhen

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My stupid unifi switch has become a problem and I want it gone.

Am I missing something, because here's an ebay listing for a 100 dollar ICX725048P, which looks like the switch in the OP that has 8 sfp+ 10gb ports and 48 POE 1gb ports and draws 50 watts (plus POE of course.) Is this a different model or have they just dropped in price that much?
Just pointing this out in case it matters for you but the 7250-48P draws around 65 watts at idle with nothing connected. Confirmed by a couple folks in a separate thread.
 

marshallm

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Hi folks! I've got a 6610 that I've been tinkering with and I've run into a conundrum that I'm trying to wrap my head around. When adding VEs to vlans on the switch with groups of tagged/untagged ports, it seems the MAC address for the 1/1/1 or MGMT port is duplicated across all of them and I can't wrap my head around why it is happening. It doesn't seem like it should be. Is this expected behavior?

Including a snippet of "show int br" before and after creating the VLANs/VEs:

Before:
Code:
Port       Link    State   Dupl Speed Trunk Tag Pvid Pri MAC             Name
1/1/1      Up      Forward Full 1G    None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/2      Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0851                
1/1/3      Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0852                
1/1/4      Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0853                
1/1/5      Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0854                
1/1/6      Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0855                
1/1/7      Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0856                
1/1/8      Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0857                
1/1/9      Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0858                
1/1/10     Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0859                
1/1/11     Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.085a                
1/1/12     Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.085b                
1/1/13     Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.085c                
1/1/14     Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.085d                
1/1/15     Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.085e                
1/1/16     Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.085f                
1/1/17     Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0860                
1/1/18     Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0861                
1/1/19     Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0862                
1/1/20     Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0863
After:
Code:
Port       Link    State   Dupl Speed Trunk Tag Pvid Pri MAC             Name
1/1/1      Up      Forward Full 1G    None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/2      Down    None    None None  None  Yes N/A  0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/3      Down    None    None None  None  Yes N/A  0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/4      Down    None    None None  None  Yes N/A  0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/5      Down    None    None None  None  Yes N/A  0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/6      Down    None    None None  None  Yes N/A  0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/7      Down    None    None None  None  Yes N/A  0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/8      Down    None    None None  None  Yes N/A  0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/9      Down    None    None None  None  No  100  0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/10     Down    None    None None  None  Yes N/A  0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/11     Down    None    None None  None  Yes N/A  0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/12     Down    None    None None  None  Yes N/A  0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/13     Down    None    None None  None  Yes N/A  0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/14     Down    None    None None  None  Yes N/A  0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/15     Down    None    None None  None  Yes N/A  0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/16     Down    None    None None  None  Yes N/A  0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/17     Down    None    None None  None  No  205  0   cc4e.24be.0850                
1/1/18     Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0861                
1/1/19     Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0862                
1/1/20     Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24be.0863
 

reinhardtjh

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My stupid unifi switch has become a problem and I want it gone.

Am I missing something, because here's an ebay listing for a 100 dollar ICX725048P, which looks like the switch in the OP that has 8 sfp+ 10gb ports and 48 POE 1gb ports and draws 50 watts (plus POE of course.) Is this a different model or have they just dropped in price that much?
Nope, I just got one in terrific condition for $110 with shipping. wish I'd seen that listing it would have saved me $10.
 

ITN0B

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Does this model Brocade ICX7150-C08P (8 ports model) inculded in the confing/licensing files?
I see the in zip file there is one for ICX71xx Does it includes the 8 ports model ? or only the 12 ports ?
 

kpfleming

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Does this model Brocade ICX7150-C08P (8 ports model) inculded in the confing/licensing files?
I see the in zip file there is one for ICX71xx Does it includes the 8 ports model ? or only the 12 ports ?
All of the content applies to all 71xx models. There are no 'licensing files' for 7xxx units though, they aren't needed.
 

chewbakartik

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Jun 13, 2024
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Thanks for all the sharing of information on these switches, I am just waiting on my ICX725048P to arrive to start working through my setup and configuration.

Just an FYI to the community, this seller on eBay accepts offers, when I made an offer of $90 for the switch, it was accepted immediately. The threshold for acceptance may be lower than the 10% discount I got.

 
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seatrope

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Been very happy with my L3 switch setup. Core is ICX6610 with downstream ICX6450-48P and ICX7150-C12P switches. ICX6610 does all the routing, and I use a HA pair of piHoles for DNS/DHCP. Opnsense FW just doing firewall duties.

Two questions that I can't seem to figure out:
1) I can't seem to get WoL working across VLANs. Right now it works seamlessly within a subnet and I've just resorted to putting a 1Gb NIC in the subnet with the WoL server (really my Amazon echos with the WoL skill by Oscar Penelo). It's worked well for years, nice to be able to walk in and say "Alexa, turn on office computer".

I want to get my Echos into my IOT VLAN away from other stuff, but getting nowhere.

I looked at this page first:
Wake-on-LAN support across VLANs (commscope.com)

and looked at this:
Wake on Lan packets across L3? : r/Brocade (reddit.com)

WoL clients are in VLAN20. Echos are in VLAN80

I added ip-helper address in VLAN80 pointed at 192.168.20.255 in VLAN20, did ip directed broadcast, and added ip forward-protocol udp discard, as well as ip forward-protocol udp echo. I put a rule in ACL for the target VLAN to allow udp eq 7 and eq 9 too.
All of which went nowhere.

I haven't wiresharked it yet.. giving up for now and reverted all my changes.

Anyone has WoL across subnets/VLANs working well that cares to share?

2) With my cascaded/downstream switches - 6610-> 6450 and 6610 -> 7150, I have duplicated all the VLANs and ACLs. Is that the only way to do it?It works well, and i've tagged all my VLANs onto the uplink interface between 6610 and the smaller switches, but am i duplicating work by duplicating the same ACLs again?

Thanks!!
 
Sep 22, 2015
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I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around getting my VLAN config to work.

I have two kinds of ports I want on this switch.
  • Regular Device Ports that are untagged on VLAN 5 only
  • "Super" Ports that are on multiple additional VLANs (10,20,30,40,50,90) and who's devices will ONLY use VLAN tagged traffic (but will also send tagged traffic to VLAN 5)
Code:
enable
configure terminal

vlan 5 name NORMAL
untagged ethernet 1/1/1 to 1/1/24
tagged ethernet 1/1/24 to 1/1/48


vlan 10 name WAN1
tagged ethernet 1/1/24 to 1/1/48


vlan 20 name WAN2
tagged ethernet 1/1/24 to 1/1/48
etc for the other VLANS on down the line


What I can't figure out is how to set the PVID. Every switch I've configured this on has a GUI and has a function to set the PVID. The PVID for the super ports doesn't matter, and can be 1, as all those devices only speak tagged traffic. The PVID for the regular untagged ports must be 5 so all traffic in and out is on VLAN 5
 

seatrope

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I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around getting my VLAN config to work.

I have two kinds of ports I want on this switch.
  • Regular Device Ports that are untagged on VLAN 5 only
  • "Super" Ports that are on multiple additional VLANs (10,20,30,40,50,90) and who's devices will ONLY use VLAN tagged traffic (but will also send tagged traffic to VLAN 5)
Code:
enable
configure terminal

vlan 5 name NORMAL
untagged ethernet 1/1/1 to 1/1/24
tagged ethernet 1/1/24 to 1/1/48


vlan 10 name WAN1
tagged ethernet 1/1/24 to 1/1/48


vlan 20 name WAN2
tagged ethernet 1/1/24 to 1/1/48
etc for the other VLANS on down the line


What I can't figure out is how to set the PVID. Every switch I've configured this on has a GUI and has a function to set the PVID. The PVID for the super ports doesn't matter, and can be 1, as all those devices only speak tagged traffic. The PVID for the regular untagged ports must be 5 so all traffic in and out is on VLAN 5
isn’t the PVID just the VLAN number? Never needed to set a PVID separately for my VLANs. Seems like what you have would work.
 
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jei

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Just from glancing Cisco terminology, what they call "port VLAN ID / Access port" is just untagged VLAN in your setup. And what you call "Super Port" is usually called Trunk.
 
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Just from glancing Cisco terminology, what they call "port VLAN ID / Access port" is just untagged VLAN in your setup. And what you call "Super Port" is usually called Trunk.
Yeah, that's what I'd been referring to them as. Sadly I'm used to working with stuff like this:
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TheExcitedTech

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Hey All,

I searched this thread, Google, and tried two different computers (Mac and Windows 11) and I am running into TFTP errors. I am definitely a noob so I hope this is just something I am overlooking. :oops:

I have a brocade 6610. I want to go through the full setup to get more familiar with hardware.

I tried using Windows so I can use the tftpd64 bundled in the zip:

- I am able to access the bootloader via Serial console without a problem.
- I have tftp64 booted and verified that it's pointing to the right folder.
- Windows Firewall is completely off and I enabled tftp64 to be able to pass through the firewall.

- I make sure that the ip address I set is in my network's IP range as per the instructions (My range is 192.168.68.0/24)

- Everytime I try to flash, tftpd doesn't look like anything is happening. Then on the console it will eventually timeout. There isn't any logs on the tftpd side either to show it's communicating. This is the only thing that is shown on the console. There is no action from TFTPD.

- I tried to change tftpd64 IP from 127.0.0.1 to the IP of the Windows computer .
- I tried to change the console command between 127.0.0.1 and my W computers IP. I did this when I set the tftpd to 127.0.0.1 and W IP address. So both scenarios.
- I tried using Pumpkin TFTP, issue persists. Doesn't even detect the switch.
- I factory-reset the switch too and tried the above processes again just in case I somehow botched it. Issue persists


Googling said that you should be able to ping the switch from the computer if it's on the same network (Doesn't make sense to me cuz it's connected via Console but I feel like I am at wit's end) which it couldn't ping to the switch.

I also saw via Google the TFTP server has to be in a subnet of 192.168.1.0/24 but that doesn't make sense to me(Oh God if this is the reasono_O)

I am unable to ping the IP address that I set for the brocade.

Is there other troubleshooting steps I should be trying? I am starting to think it has something to do with my current network setup somehow blocking. I am thinking of maybe setting up a temporary LAN network just between the switch and Windows machine but I don't know if I am looking at this the wrong way.

Thanks in advance!
 
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Sep 22, 2015
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Hey All,

I searched this thread, Google, and tried two different computers (Mac and Windows 11) and I am running into TFTP errors. I am definitely a noob so I hope this is just something I am overlooking. :oops:

I have a brocade 6610. I want to go through the full setup to get more familiar with hardware.

I tried using Windows so I can use the tftpd64 bundled in the zip:

- I am able to access the bootloader via Serial console without a problem.
- I have tftp64 booted and verified that it's pointing to the right folder.
- Windows Firewall is completely off and I enabled tftp64 to be able to pass through the firewall.

- I make sure that the ip address I set is in my network's IP range as per the instructions (My range is 192.168.68.0/24)

- Everytime I try to flash, tftpd doesn't look like anything is happening. Then on the console it will eventually timeout. There isn't any logs on the tftpd side either to show it's communicating. This is the only thing that is shown on the console. There is no action from TFTPD.

- I tried to change tftpd64 IP from 127.0.0.1 to the IP of the Windows computer .
- I tried to change the console command between 127.0.0.1 and my W computers IP. I did this when I set the tftpd to 127.0.0.1 and W IP address. So both scenarios.
- I tried using Pumpkin TFTP, issue persists. Doesn't even detect the switch.
- I factory-reset the switch too and tried the above processes again just in case I somehow botched it. Issue persists


Googling said that you should be able to ping the switch from the computer if it's on the same network (Doesn't make sense to me cuz it's connected via Console but I feel like I am at wit's end) which it couldn't ping to the switch.

I also saw via Google the TFTP server has to be in a subnet of 192.168.1.0/24 but that doesn't make sense to me(Oh God if this is the reasono_O)

I am unable to ping the IP address that I set for the brocade.

Is there other troubleshooting steps I should be trying? I am starting to think it has something to do with my current network setup somehow blocking. I am thinking of maybe setting up a temporary LAN network just between the switch and Windows machine but I don't know if I am looking at this the wrong way.

Thanks in advance!
Plug a computer directly into the management port (not any of the main switch ports,) set a static ip on that computer (192.168.1.2, mask /24 aka 255.255.255.0) set the switch to 192.168.1.1 (same mask) and try again.
 

kpfleming

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I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around getting my VLAN config to work.

I have two kinds of ports I want on this switch.
  • Regular Device Ports that are untagged on VLAN 5 only
  • "Super" Ports that are on multiple additional VLANs (10,20,30,40,50,90) and who's devices will ONLY use VLAN tagged traffic (but will also send tagged traffic to VLAN 5)
For the 'super' ports, create an additional VLAN and assign that to all of them in 'untagged' mode; any packets they send to the switch which don't include VLAN tags will go into this VLAN. The result will be that the all the devices on that VLAN can talk to each other (but nothing else) over that VLAN; if you don't want that to be possible, then create a VLAN for each of those ports, assign them to the ports in 'untagged' mode, and any untagged packets received on those ports will be effectively dropped.