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Brocade ICX Series (cheap & powerful 10gbE/40gbE switching)

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reinhardtjh

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My stupid unifi switch has become a problem and I want it gone.

Am I missing something, because here's an ebay listing for a 100 dollar ICX725048P, which looks like the switch in the OP that has 8 sfp+ 10gb ports and 48 POE 1gb ports and draws 50 watts (plus POE of course.) Is this a different model or have they just dropped in price that much?
Nope, I just got one in terrific condition for $110 with shipping. wish I'd seen that listing it would have saved me $10.
 

ITN0B

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Does this model Brocade ICX7150-C08P (8 ports model) inculded in the confing/licensing files?
I see the in zip file there is one for ICX71xx Does it includes the 8 ports model ? or only the 12 ports ?
 

kpfleming

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Does this model Brocade ICX7150-C08P (8 ports model) inculded in the confing/licensing files?
I see the in zip file there is one for ICX71xx Does it includes the 8 ports model ? or only the 12 ports ?
All of the content applies to all 71xx models. There are no 'licensing files' for 7xxx units though, they aren't needed.
 

chewbakartik

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Thanks for all the sharing of information on these switches, I am just waiting on my ICX725048P to arrive to start working through my setup and configuration.

Just an FYI to the community, this seller on eBay accepts offers, when I made an offer of $90 for the switch, it was accepted immediately. The threshold for acceptance may be lower than the 10% discount I got.

 
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seatrope

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Been very happy with my L3 switch setup. Core is ICX6610 with downstream ICX6450-48P and ICX7150-C12P switches. ICX6610 does all the routing, and I use a HA pair of piHoles for DNS/DHCP. Opnsense FW just doing firewall duties.

Two questions that I can't seem to figure out:
1) I can't seem to get WoL working across VLANs. Right now it works seamlessly within a subnet and I've just resorted to putting a 1Gb NIC in the subnet with the WoL server (really my Amazon echos with the WoL skill by Oscar Penelo). It's worked well for years, nice to be able to walk in and say "Alexa, turn on office computer".

I want to get my Echos into my IOT VLAN away from other stuff, but getting nowhere.

I looked at this page first:
Wake-on-LAN support across VLANs (commscope.com)

and looked at this:
Wake on Lan packets across L3? : r/Brocade (reddit.com)

WoL clients are in VLAN20. Echos are in VLAN80

I added ip-helper address in VLAN80 pointed at 192.168.20.255 in VLAN20, did ip directed broadcast, and added ip forward-protocol udp discard, as well as ip forward-protocol udp echo. I put a rule in ACL for the target VLAN to allow udp eq 7 and eq 9 too.
All of which went nowhere.

I haven't wiresharked it yet.. giving up for now and reverted all my changes.

Anyone has WoL across subnets/VLANs working well that cares to share?

2) With my cascaded/downstream switches - 6610-> 6450 and 6610 -> 7150, I have duplicated all the VLANs and ACLs. Is that the only way to do it?It works well, and i've tagged all my VLANs onto the uplink interface between 6610 and the smaller switches, but am i duplicating work by duplicating the same ACLs again?

Thanks!!
 
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I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around getting my VLAN config to work.

I have two kinds of ports I want on this switch.
  • Regular Device Ports that are untagged on VLAN 5 only
  • "Super" Ports that are on multiple additional VLANs (10,20,30,40,50,90) and who's devices will ONLY use VLAN tagged traffic (but will also send tagged traffic to VLAN 5)
Code:
enable
configure terminal

vlan 5 name NORMAL
untagged ethernet 1/1/1 to 1/1/24
tagged ethernet 1/1/24 to 1/1/48


vlan 10 name WAN1
tagged ethernet 1/1/24 to 1/1/48


vlan 20 name WAN2
tagged ethernet 1/1/24 to 1/1/48
etc for the other VLANS on down the line


What I can't figure out is how to set the PVID. Every switch I've configured this on has a GUI and has a function to set the PVID. The PVID for the super ports doesn't matter, and can be 1, as all those devices only speak tagged traffic. The PVID for the regular untagged ports must be 5 so all traffic in and out is on VLAN 5
 

seatrope

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I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around getting my VLAN config to work.

I have two kinds of ports I want on this switch.
  • Regular Device Ports that are untagged on VLAN 5 only
  • "Super" Ports that are on multiple additional VLANs (10,20,30,40,50,90) and who's devices will ONLY use VLAN tagged traffic (but will also send tagged traffic to VLAN 5)
Code:
enable
configure terminal

vlan 5 name NORMAL
untagged ethernet 1/1/1 to 1/1/24
tagged ethernet 1/1/24 to 1/1/48


vlan 10 name WAN1
tagged ethernet 1/1/24 to 1/1/48


vlan 20 name WAN2
tagged ethernet 1/1/24 to 1/1/48
etc for the other VLANS on down the line


What I can't figure out is how to set the PVID. Every switch I've configured this on has a GUI and has a function to set the PVID. The PVID for the super ports doesn't matter, and can be 1, as all those devices only speak tagged traffic. The PVID for the regular untagged ports must be 5 so all traffic in and out is on VLAN 5
isn’t the PVID just the VLAN number? Never needed to set a PVID separately for my VLANs. Seems like what you have would work.
 
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jei

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Just from glancing Cisco terminology, what they call "port VLAN ID / Access port" is just untagged VLAN in your setup. And what you call "Super Port" is usually called Trunk.
 
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Just from glancing Cisco terminology, what they call "port VLAN ID / Access port" is just untagged VLAN in your setup. And what you call "Super Port" is usually called Trunk.
Yeah, that's what I'd been referring to them as. Sadly I'm used to working with stuff like this:
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TheExcitedTech

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Hey All,

I searched this thread, Google, and tried two different computers (Mac and Windows 11) and I am running into TFTP errors. I am definitely a noob so I hope this is just something I am overlooking. :oops:

I have a brocade 6610. I want to go through the full setup to get more familiar with hardware.

I tried using Windows so I can use the tftpd64 bundled in the zip:

- I am able to access the bootloader via Serial console without a problem.
- I have tftp64 booted and verified that it's pointing to the right folder.
- Windows Firewall is completely off and I enabled tftp64 to be able to pass through the firewall.

- I make sure that the ip address I set is in my network's IP range as per the instructions (My range is 192.168.68.0/24)

- Everytime I try to flash, tftpd doesn't look like anything is happening. Then on the console it will eventually timeout. There isn't any logs on the tftpd side either to show it's communicating. This is the only thing that is shown on the console. There is no action from TFTPD.

- I tried to change tftpd64 IP from 127.0.0.1 to the IP of the Windows computer .
- I tried to change the console command between 127.0.0.1 and my W computers IP. I did this when I set the tftpd to 127.0.0.1 and W IP address. So both scenarios.
- I tried using Pumpkin TFTP, issue persists. Doesn't even detect the switch.
- I factory-reset the switch too and tried the above processes again just in case I somehow botched it. Issue persists


Googling said that you should be able to ping the switch from the computer if it's on the same network (Doesn't make sense to me cuz it's connected via Console but I feel like I am at wit's end) which it couldn't ping to the switch.

I also saw via Google the TFTP server has to be in a subnet of 192.168.1.0/24 but that doesn't make sense to me(Oh God if this is the reasono_O)

I am unable to ping the IP address that I set for the brocade.

Is there other troubleshooting steps I should be trying? I am starting to think it has something to do with my current network setup somehow blocking. I am thinking of maybe setting up a temporary LAN network just between the switch and Windows machine but I don't know if I am looking at this the wrong way.

Thanks in advance!
 
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Sep 22, 2015
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Hey All,

I searched this thread, Google, and tried two different computers (Mac and Windows 11) and I am running into TFTP errors. I am definitely a noob so I hope this is just something I am overlooking. :oops:

I have a brocade 6610. I want to go through the full setup to get more familiar with hardware.

I tried using Windows so I can use the tftpd64 bundled in the zip:

- I am able to access the bootloader via Serial console without a problem.
- I have tftp64 booted and verified that it's pointing to the right folder.
- Windows Firewall is completely off and I enabled tftp64 to be able to pass through the firewall.

- I make sure that the ip address I set is in my network's IP range as per the instructions (My range is 192.168.68.0/24)

- Everytime I try to flash, tftpd doesn't look like anything is happening. Then on the console it will eventually timeout. There isn't any logs on the tftpd side either to show it's communicating. This is the only thing that is shown on the console. There is no action from TFTPD.

- I tried to change tftpd64 IP from 127.0.0.1 to the IP of the Windows computer .
- I tried to change the console command between 127.0.0.1 and my W computers IP. I did this when I set the tftpd to 127.0.0.1 and W IP address. So both scenarios.
- I tried using Pumpkin TFTP, issue persists. Doesn't even detect the switch.
- I factory-reset the switch too and tried the above processes again just in case I somehow botched it. Issue persists


Googling said that you should be able to ping the switch from the computer if it's on the same network (Doesn't make sense to me cuz it's connected via Console but I feel like I am at wit's end) which it couldn't ping to the switch.

I also saw via Google the TFTP server has to be in a subnet of 192.168.1.0/24 but that doesn't make sense to me(Oh God if this is the reasono_O)

I am unable to ping the IP address that I set for the brocade.

Is there other troubleshooting steps I should be trying? I am starting to think it has something to do with my current network setup somehow blocking. I am thinking of maybe setting up a temporary LAN network just between the switch and Windows machine but I don't know if I am looking at this the wrong way.

Thanks in advance!
Plug a computer directly into the management port (not any of the main switch ports,) set a static ip on that computer (192.168.1.2, mask /24 aka 255.255.255.0) set the switch to 192.168.1.1 (same mask) and try again.
 

kpfleming

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I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around getting my VLAN config to work.

I have two kinds of ports I want on this switch.
  • Regular Device Ports that are untagged on VLAN 5 only
  • "Super" Ports that are on multiple additional VLANs (10,20,30,40,50,90) and who's devices will ONLY use VLAN tagged traffic (but will also send tagged traffic to VLAN 5)
For the 'super' ports, create an additional VLAN and assign that to all of them in 'untagged' mode; any packets they send to the switch which don't include VLAN tags will go into this VLAN. The result will be that the all the devices on that VLAN can talk to each other (but nothing else) over that VLAN; if you don't want that to be possible, then create a VLAN for each of those ports, assign them to the ports in 'untagged' mode, and any untagged packets received on those ports will be effectively dropped.
 

synxb

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I recently acquired an ICX 7250 as an upgrade over my ICX 6450 mainly for the extra SFP+ ports but it appears my Mikrotik SFP+ 10G Copper optics no longer work.

The switch detects the optic and it does appear in the interfaces list but the link is never changed from DOWN to UP.

I have confirmed my 7250 works with generic fibre optics but the issues with the Copper ones persists? Does anyone have a 7250 who can confirm this behaviour/know of a 10G coppper optic I can replace it with? (that is ideally cheaper than the brocade ones from fs.com at ~£80)
 

kpfleming

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I recently acquired an ICX 7250 as an upgrade over my ICX 6450 mainly for the extra SFP+ ports but it appears my Mikrotik SFP+ 10G Copper optics no longer work.

The switch detects the optic and it does appear in the interfaces list but the link is never changed from DOWN to UP.

I have confirmed my 7250 works with generic fibre optics but the issues with the Copper ones persists? Does anyone have a 7250 who can confirm this behaviour/know of a 10G coppper optic I can replace it with? (that is ideally cheaper than the brocade ones from fs.com at ~£80)
Have you enabled 10G licenses on the SFP+ ports? They default to 1G mode.
 

synxb

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Have you enabled 10G licenses on the SFP+ ports? They default to 1G mode.
Yes all licences have been applied and they are running at 10G, as shown below for my 2 fibre optics

Code:
1/2/1      Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24e1.70ee
1/2/2      Up      Forward Full 10G   None  No  1    0   cc4e.24e1.70ee
1/2/3      Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24e1.70ee
1/2/4      Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24e1.70ee
1/2/5      Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24e1.70ee
1/2/6      Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24e1.70ee
1/2/7      Down    None    None None  None  No  1    0   cc4e.24e1.70ee
1/2/8      Up      Forward Full 10G   None  No  1    0   cc4e.24e1.70ee
The issue is the Mikrotik optics don't make a link at all. Not at 10G or 1G.

I will add I do get some activity on the client side, my 10G NIC lights up indiciting a link but no activity happens and the link is never made on the switch side. Any ideas?
 
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CIR-Engineering

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I was one of the other winners on those ICX7450-32ZPs. Currently running the Diags just to make sure I don't run into any of the issues described by CIR-Engineering. I also ordered some extra SFP+ modules to replace the QSFP modules on the rear, hoping to replace my ICX6610-48P.
I replaced one of the 40GbE modules today with an ICX7400-4X10GF 4-port 10-Gigabit SFP+ module. Man that was easy, it was plug and play! I expected to have to do some CLI voodoo but it just worked. So this 7450 can support 12x 10GbE ports if you don’t need any 40GbE ports which I do not think I ever will. I suppose maybe if I add another switch down the road maybe I’ll use 40GbE between them, but then 8x 10GbE should be enough on this switch.

The ICX7450-32ZPs with cooling mods is just amazing. I was also able to remove the PS fan so it’s about as quiet as my modded 6450 now.

Bought a nonfunctional 7450 for $60 shipped and the seller was really accommodating. I asked specifically for a clean top cover, a power supply (so I could strip it and use as a vent if necessary), a fan assembly, a power supply blank, a fan blank, and two SFP+ blanks. Brocade ICX7450-48P 48 Port Gigabit Ethernet PoE+ Switch **As-Is** for PARTS | eBay

But now here is a functional clean 7450 for $75 with a darn ICX7400-4X10GF 4-port 10-Gigabit SFP+ module in it! I just paid $50 for one of those on its own. Please somebody buy this before I can't help myself! Brocade ICX7450-24 24 X 10/100/1000 L3 Managed Switch | eBay
 
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