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Balteck

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Or, You can build a cable with USB/RS232 converter embedded:

USB to Serial FTDI on Amazon UK
USB Cable on Amazon UK

Now, follow these steps:
1) Cut the USB Type A connector of USB Cable (Pic) and you will find inside the cable, 4 little wires: Red, White, Green and Black (Pic)
2) link the white wire of the USB Cable to the orange wire of the FTDI Cable
3) link the green wire of the USB Cable to the yellow wire of the FTDI Cable
4) link the black wire of the USB Cable to the black wire of the FTDI Cable

And connect directly the USB Type-A of FTDI Cable on your PC. You need to install the DRIVERS to get a Virtual COM Port
 
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Damo

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Didn't work @Balteck probably me never cut wires before they where so small.

Right now I will just buy the cable to go with adapter. Will this work?


or should I just get what @fohdeesha suggested

 

kpfleming

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It is *possible* that the first cable listed there will work, but the listing does not include any information about pinouts on the DB-9 and USB-Mini-B ends, so it's impossible to know for sure.
 

danringer

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First, thank you. Amazing info and great howtos at FCX / ICX6610 - Fohdeesha Docs

I'm hell bent on using the rear qsfp 4x10gbe to "stack" a 6610 to a 6450. I'd like to save the front 8x10gbe for lan use.

I can make it work by LAGP dynamic with 1/2/2-5 and since their mixed stacking really only extends the ports and doesn't do anything but aid in configuration, is there any harm in doing it this way over mixed stacking them properly?

Apologies if I botched any nomenclature, I'm rather new to managed switches.

Thank you,
-Dan
 

snausages

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It's amateur hour at my place again...

So I picked up a 2nd power supply for the 7450 I'm using, but failed to notice the minor details of AC vs DC versions. When putting in the new (DC) psu, it seems to work fine and shows as healthy, but the syslog shows that mismatched power supplies are not supported (one AC and one DC).

Anyone know if it's "ok" and just not supported or are there other limitations with a DC vs AC? I can always just use it as a cold spare, but would rather have both in use if possible.

The interesting thing is the switch shows them both as AC units, but #1 is the DC model.

Code:
Power supply 1 (AC - PoE) present, status ok
        Model Number:   23-0000142-04
        Serial Number:  BLD2M49PJDT
        Firmware Ver:   32.65
Power supply 1 Fan Air Flow Direction:  Front to Back
Power supply 2 (AC - PoE) present, status ok
        Model Number:   23-0000142-02
        Serial Number:  BLD2M04MX87
        Firmware Ver:   32.67
Power supply 2 Fan Air Flow Direction:  Front to Back


Oct 05 18:55:34:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE  Power supply 1  with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
Oct 05 15:07:02:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE  Power supply 2  with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
Oct 05 15:07:01:I:System: Stack unit 1 have AC and DC PSUs, this is not supported
 

EK701

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Does the ICX6610 support MPLS/VPLS? I’m not seeing anything that indicates that it does, but I’m just trying to confirm.

Thanks!
 

fohdeesha

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It's amateur hour at my place again...

So I picked up a 2nd power supply for the 7450 I'm using, but failed to notice the minor details of AC vs DC versions. When putting in the new (DC) psu, it seems to work fine and shows as healthy, but the syslog shows that mismatched power supplies are not supported (one AC and one DC).

Anyone know if it's "ok" and just not supported or are there other limitations with a DC vs AC? I can always just use it as a cold spare, but would rather have both in use if possible.

The interesting thing is the switch shows them both as AC units, but #1 is the DC model.

Code:
Power supply 1 (AC - PoE) present, status ok
        Model Number:   23-0000142-04
        Serial Number:  BLD2M49PJDT
        Firmware Ver:   32.65
Power supply 1 Fan Air Flow Direction:  Front to Back
Power supply 2 (AC - PoE) present, status ok
        Model Number:   23-0000142-02
        Serial Number:  BLD2M04MX87
        Firmware Ver:   32.67
Power supply 2 Fan Air Flow Direction:  Front to Back


Oct 05 18:55:34:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE  Power supply 1  with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
Oct 05 15:07:02:I:System: Stack unit 1 POE  Power supply 2  with 748000 mwatts capacity is up
Oct 05 15:07:01:I:System: Stack unit 1 have AC and DC PSUs, this is not supported
well DC versus AC isn't a minor detail lol, the DC version only takes hardwired 48v DC input. If you've plugged it into the wall with a regular power cable it's not a DC supply
 

snausages

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well DC versus AC isn't a minor detail lol, the DC version only takes hardwired 48v DC input. If you've plugged it into the wall with a regular power cable it's not a DC supply
Yeah, that's why I'm confused...unless the switch log reporting it is not supported is just a bug. Physically they are AC units.
 

fohdeesha

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Yeah, that's why I'm confused...unless the switch log reporting it is not supported is just a bug. Physically they are AC units.
sounds like the eeprom data inside the PSU is corrupted, that's how the switch identifies them. if you're curious you can dump and paste here the eeprom data from each psu, when the switch is running and booted fully, over the serial port, press ctrl+y, let go, then press m, then enter. you should get an OS> console. run the following two commands

i2c read 32 0 256
i2c read 33 0 256

edit: jk, you're on a 7450 not a 6610. Dunno the i2c addresses for the 7450, they run full linux so the OS console is gunna be totally different. In the os console you can try "i2c dev" but I don't think it has any i2c commands
 
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iamwardicus

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fohdeesha - Thank you for the guide and all the help you provide for everyone! Got my 6610 switch up and running from a testing perspective. I LOVE the License ID you've setup for us to use XD. Once I get to modding fans so it's at an acceptable volume to have in my living room I'll work on setting up my opnSense PC with a 10g card and finishing up the homelab upgrade.
 
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kuleinc

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Alright. Its been a hella long time since I took cisco classes in college. I did however manage to follow and get through the setup guide, very well done, thank you so much. This 24Port POE 6610 switch would have been a $160 brick without your help.

That being said I have an edge router mikrotik 305 upstairs for 10G connectivity and breakout for another 1G POE switch for cameras and a pc with a DAC cable. I am using mikrotik S+Rj10 SFP+ adapters to connect the cat 5e run in my wall from the brocade in my garage to my mikrotik upstairs. No dice unless I use a 1G port on the brocade, then it links up likity split at 1G speeds. I cannot get any auto negotiation when I plug the cable from the 1G port on brocade to a sfp+ port with an S+RJ10 adapter. These SFP+ adapters can only use auto negotiate according to their wiki. Am I missing something dumb on the brocade? Do I need to turn on auto negotiate speed for the front SFP+ ports? I do have my unraid server down there in the same rack plugged into one of the front brocade SFP+ ports with a 2 meter DAC cable and it just works at 10G speed when I plug it in automagically...

I cannot run a DAC or fiber cable from my garage where the rack and brocade and server are up to the third floor. I only have the CAT 5e cable in the wall. Its not an easy pull, the previous owner cut a lot of sheetrock holes to wire up the house. I wish I could just use a fiber cable, seems like they give better signal?

Also I may be doing something wrong on the mikrotik switch, in order to get it to link up to the 1G port on the brocade I have to first plug the FSP+ adapter into the 1G dumb switch that is next to it, and get it to link to that. then if I swap wires to the wire going down to the brocade they will connect at 1G speed. If I don't do the cable switcheroo they wont link up, and according to the wiki for these FSP+ adapters you can't just force set them to a lower speed like say 5G or 2.5G, in case they wont talk at 10G speeds. I would hope they just auto negotiate down, but I've waited for minutes with no link up. I also can't deffinitively find out the maximum distance for these FSP+ adapters but if they are 30 meters I should be ok, as its only 40-50 foot distance of cat 5e cable...
I was able to fix my problem with some SFP+ adapters for RJ45 that are rated at 80 meters, the ones I had were 30 meter units, which should work for the distance, but didn't.
 

jei

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I was able to fix my problem with some SFP+ adapters for RJ45 that are rated at 80 meters, the ones I had were 30 meter units, which should work for the distance, but didn't.
Same story. 30m adapters did not work between floors, got 2x 80m ones from fs.com and now it's full 10Gb over CAT6 (not CAT6A).
 

mach3.2

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Same story. 30m adapters did not work between floors, got 2x 80m ones from fs.com and now it's full 10Gb over CAT6 (not CAT6A).
Does the fs.com 80m SFP+ modules do NBASE-T?

I got a 10GTek 80m module that only support 1Gbps and 10Gbps, no in between.
 

kuleinc

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I was able to get the 80meter adapters to work over cat 5e at 10gb speed. I just got the cheapest 80 meter modules for sfp rj45 I could find on amazon that listed multiple speed auto negotiation, worked right away at 10gb when I plugged them into the brocade and a mikrotik 305. The mikrotik 30meter modules wouldn’t work.

Heres a link to the cheap adapters I bought on amazon that did work:
cheap SFP 80m adapter on amazon
 
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Craig Curtin

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Guys - anyone had issues with the 1/3 SFP+ ports on the front and Intel 540T (10G - 10BaseT) adapter ?

I am using a Dell SFP+ adapter in the Brocade and it is recognized and works on one of units - but on the other unit i have 3 of the SFP+ adapter going into the Intel 540Ts and they will not come online in ESXi 7 - just shows disconnected



Craig