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Brocade ICX Series (cheap & powerful 10gbE/40gbE switching)

dewframing

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Good afternoon group this is my first dip into the 10gig pool and wanted to know how to get started with the brocades. Looking for at least 16 ports 10 gig, quiet and cheap if I could get a wish list.
 

LodeRunner

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Sorry newbie again, but how do I add a VE on the 7150?
You need to add a 'router interface ve<x>' statement to the VLAN in question, where x is an unused integer number.
Then you configure the VE like any other interface by 'int ve <x>' in configuration mode.

Here are snippets from the 7150-C12P in my office:
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vlan 4 name LAN by port
tagged ethe 1/3/1
untagged ethe 1/1/1 to 1/1/12 ethe 1/2/2 ethe 1/3/2            
router-interface ve 4
spanning-tree
!
...
interface ve 4
port-name VLAN4 IP Interface
ip address 192.168.0.249 255.255.255.0
!
 
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LodeRunner

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Good afternoon group this is my first dip into the 10gig pool and wanted to know how to get started with the brocades. Looking for at least 16 ports 10 gig, quiet and cheap if I could get a wish list.
Most of the ICX switches with 16+ 10G ports are not what I would classify as quiet. A 6610 will have 16 total 10G ports, using the front 8 SFP+ and the 2x breakouts on the back. Other than that, you're looking at an ICX-6650, or the 76/77/7850 series. There's also the VDX family, but I'm not really familiar with those, but I believe they also fall in the "not quiet" category. Most of these switches are datacenter or aggregation use where quiet is not a consideration.

Cheap depends entirely on what you classify as cheap.
 

snausages

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Hi all...I've read through several discussions regarding the ICX7000-1x40GQ and splitting it off to 10Gb, but it was mainly for connecting to a server or workstation. I'd like to get the following working:

ICX7540 40Gb (slot 3) to uplink to another switch (Ubiquiti w/ 10Gb SFP+). I have QSFP+ to SFP+ adapters, but the twinax I've tried so far do not work (shown as unsupported). Is a QSFP+ breakout cable the only way to do this or is there a QSFP+ to single SFP+ cable available? I haven't had luck finding such a thing and don't need the extra cable mess of the breakout unless it's the only option.

Thanks!
 

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Hi all...I've read through several discussions regarding the ICX7000-1x40GQ and splitting it off to 10Gb, but it was mainly for connecting to a server or workstation. I'd like to get the following working:

ICX7540 40Gb (slot 3) to uplink to another switch (Ubiquiti w/ 10Gb SFP+). I have QSFP+ to SFP+ adapters, but the twinax I've tried so far do not work (shown as unsupported). Is a QSFP+ breakout cable the only way to do this or is there a QSFP+ to single SFP+ cable available? I haven't had luck finding such a thing and don't need the extra cable mess of the breakout unless it's the only option.

Thanks!
Where do you see it showing unsupported? Did you set the port to 4x10g breakout? You'll need to do that. iirc a qsfp to sfp adapter in a breakout port is the first 10g channel of the breakout group
 

LodeRunner

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Does the ICX7450 even support 40G to 4x10G breakout? I think you'd need a QSA module (QSFP to SFP+) but I don't know if the 7450 would support that, never had one to try with (or a reason). You can put the 4x10G module in bays 2 and 3; I did that for a while until I got a switch with more ports, then swapped it back to 40G modules as uplinks to the new core.
 

snausages

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Where do you see it showing unsupported? Did you set the port to 4x10g breakout? You'll need to do that. iirc a qsfp to sfp adapter in a breakout port is the first 10g channel of the breakout group
I see the following with the QSFP+ to SFP+ adapter with a Ubiquiti twinax connected:



Code:
SW2>show media validation

Port Supported Vendor Type
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1/3/1 No OTHER Sti Inc. Type : 10GE Passive Twinax 1m (SFP+)

SW2>show media eth 1/3/1

Port 1/3/1: Type : 10GE Passive Twinax 1m (SFP+)
Vendor: OTHERSti Inc. Version: A2
Part# : UC-DAC-SFP+ Serial#: AH21108001599

How would I go about setting the port to breakout mode? I saw in one Brocade doc (that I can't find at the moment...) that it could be converted to data port instead of stacking, but the commands are not available. ?


@LodeRunner I hope it supports breakout, but I couldn't find anything in the documentation either way. :(

Edit...just found this: Commscope Technical Content Portal

If that's true, then only 7750/7850's support breakout? ugh I've looked for 4x10G modules but they cost as much as what I paid for the switch...or more.
 
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LodeRunner

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Good gravy, prices on those have gotten ridiculous. I bought mine for $29/each in 2020. Supply has been obliterated.

What QSFP+ to SFP+ adapter are you using?
 

snausages

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Good gravy, prices on those have gotten ridiculous. I bought mine for $29/each in 2020. Supply has been obliterated.

What QSFP+ to SFP+ adapter are you using?
It's a HP 40G adapter, part # 746962-001

It seems to "work" since the switch can read the SFP+ module details that I posted above, unless there is more to it than that. I suspect it's that the 7450 simply cannot do this. I have a 7150 that I can use in its place, but I really wanted the redundant power supplies.
 

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It's a HP 40G adapter, part # 746962-001

It seems to "work" since the switch can read the SFP+ module details that I posted above, unless there is more to it than that. I suspect it's that the 7450 simply cannot do this. I have a 7150 that I can use in its place, but I really wanted the redundant power supplies.
The ICX7450 hardware guide shows it as supporting 4x10g:

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It might be configured under the port level with a speed xxx command, when you go to interface eth 1/2/1 (for example) and type speed and hit tab a bunch what are the options? You can ignore the supported: no under media validation, that's just telling you it's not an official optic/DAC
 

LodeRunner

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Breakout is not an available command at global or interface level. I wonder if it auto-configures if you plugin a 4x10G breakout DAC.

Edit: right below where it says 4x10G, it says no. Is that row indicating the support in a given slot?
 
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snausages

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Breakout is not an available command at global or interface level. I wonder if it auto-configures if you plugin a 4x10G breakout DAC.

Edit: right below where it says 4x10G, it says no. Is that row indicating the support in a given slot?
Confirmed here as well..commands not an option. :(

Thank you for all of the information and help, everyone. Maybe I'll get lucky and find a 4x10GF module for less than $300-800 that they are all priced at now! :eek:
 

tommykmusic

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I just got the Brocade ICX 6450-48p from eBay. I am able to log in but can't seem to erase the username and password and factory set-default command does nothing, I cannot confirm it with the command Y. I followed the setup guide and all worked well in the beginning until I went to type Enable and it asked me for a username and password.
 

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I just got the Brocade ICX 6450-48p from eBay. I am able to log in but can't seem to erase the username and password and factory set-default command does nothing, I cannot confirm it with the command Y. I followed the setup guide and all worked well in the beginning until I went to type Enable and it asked me for a username and password.
did you follow the instructions in the very first post of this thread and specifically for the 6450? Including "Brocade Overview" and then "Setting up Brocade ICX6450" ?
There's a factory reset in that process that happens before the switch is booted up into its OS...
 

tommykmusic

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did you follow the instructions in the very first post of this thread and specifically for the 6450? Including "Brocade Overview" and then "Setting up Brocade ICX6450" ?
There's a factory reset in that process that happens before the switch is booted up into its OS...
That's exactly what I'm talking about. I followed it but when I type in the command factory set-default I get a blank response.