Appreciate it, I tried searching this thread but didn't come up with an answer to that or the other question. Either way I figure it's a good switch for a great deal, especially since I plan on doing more 10GB.
Brocade ICX Series (cheap & powerful 10gbE/40gbE switching)
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The previews within the top 10 hits make it easy to determine what @NablaSquaredG was referring to.
Hello, I found some ICX7750 and thinking about to buy some... They look pretty good with 48x SFP+ and 6x QSFP instead of usually 4x 
I have some VDX switches but no ICX so I have no experience with them... Will be nice to hear some impressions. Are they SFP capricious ? As I know ICX does not have locked ports right ? What is the normal power draw ?
BTW I already managed to download firmware from Ruckus site
Also I hope they can manage to handle like 7 Gbit multicast without problems... I am not so familiar with multicast and what I know from network admins who deal with it, not every switch is suitable for this purpose
Last but not least, what price to chase ?
Thank you
I have some VDX switches but no ICX so I have no experience with them... Will be nice to hear some impressions. Are they SFP capricious ? As I know ICX does not have locked ports right ? What is the normal power draw ?
BTW I already managed to download firmware from Ruckus site
Also I hope they can manage to handle like 7 Gbit multicast without problems... I am not so familiar with multicast and what I know from network admins who deal with it, not every switch is suitable for this purpose
Last but not least, what price to chase ?
Thank you
thanks for the heads up, fixed: remove spaces from tftp dir name · Fohdeesha/lab-docu@2d24adc
I know the ICX6450 has pretty limited IPv6 support, but is the DHCPv6 relay expected to work fully? I was wondering if I could use it to have a routed WAN -> ICX6450 -> Gateway by relaying the DHCP requests from the gateway to the WAN - but it looks like these packets are getting swallowed?
1/1/37 is the connection to the gateway, and 1/2/1 is the WAN. Would I need to add some additional route to make this work, or is the issue that PD requests are getting filtered? I see that 'Prefix Delegation Information' is included in 'show ipv6 dhcp-relay' - and I see a number of PD related DHCP relay commands in the command reference, however these commands don't actually appear to exist, for example 'ipv6 dhcp-relay maximum-delegated-prefixes'.
1/1/37 is the connection to the gateway, and 1/2/1 is the WAN. Would I need to add some additional route to make this work, or is the issue that PD requests are getting filtered? I see that 'Prefix Delegation Information' is included in 'show ipv6 dhcp-relay' - and I see a number of PD related DHCP relay commands in the command reference, however these commands don't actually appear to exist, for example 'ipv6 dhcp-relay maximum-delegated-prefixes'.
Code:
SSH@ICX6450-48P Router(config-if-e1000-1/1/37)#show ipv6 dhcp-relay
Current DHCPv6 Relay Agent State: Enabled
DHCPv6 enabled interface(s): e 1/1/37
DHCPv6 Relay Agent Statistics:
Total DHCPv6 Packets, Received:12, Transmitted:0
Received DHCPv6 Packets: RELEASE:0,RELAY_FORWARD:0,RELAY_REPLY:0
OtherServertoClient:0,OtherClinettoServer:12
DHCPv6 Relay Prefix Delegation Notification:
Maximum Delegated Prefixes Allowed:0 Current Delegated Prefixes:0
SSH@ICX6450-48P Router(config-if-e1000-1/1/37)#show ipv6 dhcp-relay interface ethernet 1/1/37
DHCPv6 Relay Information for interface e 1/1/37:
Destinations:
Destination OutgoingInterface
ff05::1:3 e 1/2/1
ff02::1:2 e 1/2/1
Options:
Interface-Id: No Remote-Id:No
Prefix Delegation Information:
Current:0 Maximum:0 AdminDistance:10Is there a reason you're doing it on raw l2 ports and not on an addressed VE? How have you specified the relay destination? can't help much unless you share the config. I've been using dhcpv6 relay on a 6 series for years (to redundant dhcpd servers as well) without issue, but I'm not doing prefix delegation:
Code:
interface ve 10
ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0
ip helper-address 1 172.16.110.2
ip helper-address 2 172.16.110.3
ipv6 address xxx:xxx/64
ipv6 enable
ipv6 dhcp-relay destination zzz:xxx::2
ipv6 dhcp-relay destination zzz:xxx::3
ipv6 dhcp-relay include-options interface-id remote-id
ipv6 nd managed-config-flag
Code:
telnet@ICX1(config-vif-10)#show ipv6 dhcp-rela
Current DHCPv6 Relay Agent State: Enabled
DHCPv6 enabled interface(s): ve 10
DHCPv6 Relay Agent Statistics:
Total DHCPv6 Packets, Received:23352, Transmitted:32847
Received DHCPv6 Packets: RELEASE:3,RELAY_FORWARD:0,RELAY_REPLY:11607
OtherServertoClient:0,OtherClinettoServer:11742
DHCPv6 Relay Prefix Delegation Notification:
Maximum Delegated Prefixes Allowed:512 Current Delegated Prefixes:0
Code:
telnet@ICX1(config)#ipv6 dhcp-relay maximum-delegated-prefixes 50
Invalid input -> dhcp-relay maximum-delegated-prefixes 50
Type ? for a listOK yeah, it's fastiron 6 series bug ****ery. The command exists and works on my lab FCX, which runs **the exact same bootloader and fw image as the 6610**:
On a 6610 next to it with the bit-identical fw image booted:
probably worth reporting to ruckus on their user forum at least so it's documented, but who knows if it'll ever be addressed (I think they have one more bug & security release in them before these are officially End-Of-Support in Nov 2023). At the very least their documentation should be updated to state the command only works on the FCX (I've ran into a couple other commands like this, that exist in the base firmware but only become active when booted on an FCX, namely "ip ssh key-exchange-method dh-group14-sha1", which is completely nonsensical to me as the FCX runs an identical management plane vs the 6610, exact PPC part number, although less RAM I suppose )
Code:
telnet@ORAN-FCX(config)#ipv6 dhcp-relay maximum-delegated-prefixes
DECIMAL Maximum delegated prefixes, <0-512>
telnet@ORAN-FCX(config)#ipv6 dhcp-relay maximum-delegated-prefixes 50
telnet@ORAN-FCX(config)#
Code:
telnet@ICX1(config)#ipv6 dhcp-relay maximum-delegated-prefixes 50
Invalid input -> dhcp-relay maximum-delegated-prefixes 50
Type ? for a listMy bad - relevant config:
No real reason I'm using the L2 interfaces...
Code:
vlan 1 name DEFAULT-VLAN by port
router-interface ve 1
!
vlan 100 name wan by port
untagged ethe 1/2/1
!
vlan 101 by port
untagged ethe 1/1/37
!
ipv6 unicast-routing
interface ethernet 1/1/1
inline power
!
interface ethernet 1/1/37
ipv6 enable
ipv6 dhcp-relay destination ff02::1:2 outgoing-interface ethernet 1/2/1
ipv6 dhcp-relay destination ff05::1:3 outgoing-interface ethernet 1/2/1
ipv6 dhcp-relay include-options interface-id remote-id
ipv6 nd managed-config-flag
!
interface ethernet 1/2/1
ipv6 enable
ipv6 nd suppress-ra
speed-duplex 1000-full-master
!
interface ve 1
ip address 192.168.1.10 255.255.255.0Does your icx6450 have an ipv6 address it can source traffic from to these ff02::1:2/3 destinations? eg can you run a v6 ping from the 6450 to those addresses and get a reply? guess in the dark here, but maybe because you're doing dhcpv6 relay on an interface with no IPv6 address? (well, other than the local link). maybe try assigning an ipv6 address to 1/1/37 just to test, then se if the delegation limit increases, if you're relying on link-local addresses for relay source and destination perhaps it doesn't like that (although technically in a perfect world it shouldn't matter)
I'll give that a try later today after work, I am thinking I should maybe try and find a 7250, or ideally a 7150 for the fanless mode but I don't see many. The 6450 was cheap and does do the basic stuff I need, and whilst I knew it didn't have full IPv6 support I missed that it didn't support PBR, which is more annoying...
Not sure if anyone have tested noise levels before, but I got calibrated Audio Analyser and measured noise from my 6610 with B revision Power supplies.
With only one Power Supply connected to power noise measurement are:
56dB at 1 meter distance
50dB at 2 meter distance
This is too much noise for me to stay permanently in the same room with switch..
66dB at 1 meter distance - Boot noise
60dB at 2 meter distance - Boot noise
Also Power Consumption measured on my 6610-48P is between 100-116W with no PoE enabled ports.
With only one Power Supply connected to power noise measurement are:
56dB at 1 meter distance
50dB at 2 meter distance
This is too much noise for me to stay permanently in the same room with switch..
66dB at 1 meter distance - Boot noise
60dB at 2 meter distance - Boot noise
Also Power Consumption measured on my 6610-48P is between 100-116W with no PoE enabled ports.
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I meant to follow up on my attempts to stack with 10GBASE-T transceivers a while back but I've been busy.
To anyone else thinking of stacking with 10GBASE-T transceivers: It doesn't appear to be possible on the ICX 7250 switches (and likely all other ICX switches as well). I imagine the desire to stack over CAT6 is rather limited, but hopefully this saves someone a headache.
It isn't a design limitation with the switches, it's an issue with the transceivers. The 10GBASE-T transceivers can only send/receive ethernet data/frames (IEEE 802.3) whereas fiber transceivers and/or DACs are raw data connections that can be used for other, non-ethernet connections (Fiber Channel, for example). As far as I can tell, this is true of every current 10GBASE-T transceiver on the market (understandably; they're RJ45 adapters, after all).
The ICX switches appear to negotiate via ethernet and then switch to communicating between stack members via a raw connection. This is why the interfaces appear to flap when attempting to stack with 10GBASE-T transceivers. The switches bring the stacking interfaces up, figure out who's on the other end, and then switch to a raw data connection. Since the transceivers don't support non-802.3 operation, they promptly disconnect. The switch the resets the interfaces and the cycle repeats.
One of my searches while trying to figure this out rendered this internal Brocade slide-deck on stacking: stack-unit - Brocade Community Forums (edit: Despite the title, this isn't a link to the Brocade forums; it's to "studylib.net") -- Notable slides that support this theory are 30 & 31.
Does anyone know what the difference between these AWF-2DC-1000W-E part numbers is? I was thinking at first it might tie into the hardware revision, but that didn't pan out.
23-0000142-01
23-0000142-02
23-0000142-04
More or less I'm trying to find the best deal for a Rev B/C power supply for an ICX6610-48P-PE.
23-0000142-01
23-0000142-02
23-0000142-04
More or less I'm trying to find the best deal for a Rev B/C power supply for an ICX6610-48P-PE.
One more question. I am needing to pick up 2x ICX-FAN10-E for my ICX6610-48P-PE, and was hoping not to spend a fortune on fans.
Pretty much as cheap as I can find for an item actually tagged as ICX-FAN10-E is ~$49.50, some with a P/N of 80-1008308-02 on the factory box.
However, I did come across an item which looks physically identical with part number 60-1002274-03 (sticker on the bottom of the fans) at a much more reasonable ~$14.99, with bulk discounts (qty 2 at $13.49/ea).
Does anyone know if these two items are actually the same?
Pretty much as cheap as I can find for an item actually tagged as ICX-FAN10-E is ~$49.50, some with a P/N of 80-1008308-02 on the factory box.
However, I did come across an item which looks physically identical with part number 60-1002274-03 (sticker on the bottom of the fans) at a much more reasonable ~$14.99, with bulk discounts (qty 2 at $13.49/ea).
Does anyone know if these two items are actually the same?
I’ll be honest, I already bought two because I was afraid of missing out on the price. I’m just hoping they will work for the ICX6610.
If you could remember to ping, ping us (or me) when you get the fans and let us know. I am in need of 1 or 2 as well.
@Lone Wolf, plugging the switch directly into my desktop, instead of another switch on my network, and manually assigning a new IP to the desktop did the trick. Was able to run update_uboot with no issues and am now on my way through the rest of the guide! Thanks again for the help man!