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Brocade ICX Series (cheap & powerful 10gbE/40gbE switching)

neonclash

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cheapest I see on ebay for 48Ps with dual PSUs is 190, I could do 160? Obviously no shipping fee with the local pickup, and they've been graced by the brocade loser himself
The US sellers for 24 and 48 port 7250s with POE were all asking stupidly high prices and didn't take any sane offers, but I did find a Canadian seller willing to send me two 7250-48Ps for $300CAD each, for a total of ~$550 USD shipped.
 
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fohdeesha

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You found switches for 2.5, 5, 10, 25, 50 & 100 gbit ethernet that are as awesome as the icx in the op? :D
damn now the surprise is going to seem really lame in comparison :p it's a form of info a lot of people in this thread already have, hint hint. also shit we're on 300 everyone uhh take a vacation real quick while I finish this guide
 

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I don't think you'd lose out on anything going with the 7250 over the 6610 - MACSEC and openflow don't really have real applications in a setup like that - plus with the 7 series you get newer software/features. Just looked and this is what I have that I'm willing to part with (no PoE 7250s left sadly):

ICX7250-48 X2
ICX7250-24 X1

ICX6610-48P X3
ICX6610-48 X2

ICX6450-24 X2
ICX6450-48P X1

FCX648S X4
FCX648S-HPOE X1

Juniper EX4300 X1
Dell S4810P X1
CES-2024C X1
Nice. Too bad I live to far away to pick one up. Need another POE switch to put in my pole barn once I get it built (who knows when that will be...depends on lumber prices) that I can uplink to my 6610 via the 40GbE optic SFP+'s I have. I know I can with the VDX, just doesn't have PoE. I'm sure these will sell out quick! :)
 
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I have been testing the 09000 release on my personal 7450s. Like @fohdeesha said, the new web GUI is the most visible change. Did not run into any noticeable bugs but I am planning to return my gear to the 0809x codetrain for now.

Earlier today, I stumbled across this notice regarding 08090m:

2 September 2021: RUCKUS has found a defect # FI-247944 due to which we have removed the software image for 08.0.90m from the Support Portal. For more information, please read TSB-2021-005.

I do not have access to the detailed TSB, but it is unusual for a vendor to completely pull a GA release before the patch is available. I would consider downgrading if you deployed the 'm' firmware.
 

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damn now the surprise is going to seem really lame in comparison :p it's a form of info a lot of people in this thread already have, hint hint. also shit we're on 300 everyone uhh take a vacation real quick while I finish this guide
I hope it's that now the ICX 7250 and ICX 7450 are the best value as I just picked them up for cheap NEW IN BOX on Ebay, after you change your OP to recommend those it will be months until they're cheap again (if ever). Currently flashing them with the help of your guides, keep up the awesome work :)
 

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damn now the surprise is going to seem really lame in comparison :p it's a form of info a lot of people in this thread already have, hint hint. also shit we're on 300 everyone uhh take a vacation real quick while I finish this guide
So what you're saying is all those recent commits on github were for a reason??;)
 

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Random question about using a QSFP-4xSFP+ breakout cable on a 6610: Are the SFP+ ends SFP+/10Gbps only, or could I run one of them into a SFP-only switch at 1Gbps? (My guess is "no".)

Background: I stupidly put my router and core network switch (an ICX6610-48P) in my main rack when I started running Cat6 in my house after we bought it a couple years ago. As I've added more and more drops, this means there's a bigger and bigger bundle of Cat6 coming from my patch panel on the wall over to the rack to get to the core switch (and did I mention the rack is on wheels for easier maintenance access?). I'm in the process of moving the router and core switch over to a 4U vertical wall-mount bracket right under the patch panel to clean up my cable management mess. I've decided to just go with a long (5M) QSFP-4xSFP breakout DAC (a Dell P8T4W) from the core switch on the wall to the two servers that will end up staying in the rack. But there are also a handful of management interfaces in the rack (a couple iDRACs, a networked PDU, APC SNMP card, etc). So it'd be super convenient if I could run one of the extra SFP+ breakouts into an older SFP/gigabit-only switch for those management connections. But I have a feeling that's not actually possible, but was hoping someone with some first-hand knowledge could chime in. If it turns out I have to run a single Cat6 cable over for a small management network switch (or heck, just get a MikroTik CSS610-8G-2S+IN for a benjamin...), no biggie.
 

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I have been testing the 09000 release on my personal 7450s. Like @fohdeesha said, the new web GUI is the most visible change. Did not run into any noticeable bugs but I am planning to return my gear to the 0809x codetrain for now.

Earlier today, I stumbled across this notice regarding 08090m:

2 September 2021: RUCKUS has found a defect # FI-247944 due to which we have removed the software image for 08.0.90m from the Support Portal. For more information, please read TSB-2021-005.

I do not have access to the detailed TSB, but it is unusual for a vendor to completely pull a GA release before the patch is available. I would consider downgrading if you deployed the 'm' firmware.
It's just a management access issue in the layer 2 only images, the layer3 images that everyone here should be running are unaffected:

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Random question about using a QSFP-4xSFP+ breakout cable on a 6610: Are the SFP+ ends SFP+/10Gbps only, or could I run one of them into a SFP-only switch at 1Gbps? (My guess is "no".)

Background: I stupidly put my router and core network switch (an ICX6610-48P) in my main rack when I started running Cat6 in my house after we bought it a couple years ago. As I've added more and more drops, this means there's a bigger and bigger bundle of Cat6 coming from my patch panel on the wall over to the rack to get to the core switch (and did I mention the rack is on wheels for easier maintenance access?). I'm in the process of moving the router and core switch over to a 4U vertical wall-mount bracket right under the patch panel to clean up my cable management mess. I've decided to just go with a long (5M) QSFP-4xSFP breakout DAC (a Dell P8T4W) from the core switch on the wall to the two servers that will end up staying in the rack. But there are also a handful of management interfaces in the rack (a couple iDRACs, a networked PDU, APC SNMP card, etc). So it'd be super convenient if I could run one of the extra SFP+ breakouts into an older SFP/gigabit-only switch for those management connections. But I have a feeling that's not actually possible, but was hoping someone with some first-hand knowledge could chime in. If it turns out I have to run a single Cat6 cable over for a small management network switch (or heck, just get a MikroTik CSS610-8G-2S+IN for a benjamin...), no biggie.
nope, sadly 10gbe lanes only
 

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So searching old posts brought me a lot of references for old posts about the 6xxx series, but what are my fan swap/removal options for an icx7250? It's considerably louder than I expected after spindown, I was hoping for it to be comparable to say a Cisco 3750X, or would like to get it as close to that as possible
 

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So searching old posts brought me a lot of references for old posts about the 6xxx series, but what are my fan swap/removal options for an icx7250? It's considerably louder than I expected after spindown, I was hoping for it to be comparable to say a Cisco 3750X, or would like to get it as close to that as possible
on the one I sold you, you can remove/unplug 2 of the 3 fans to start with, since it's no longer a PoE model (atleast, I think I pulled the PoE board)
 

Dave Corder

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nope, sadly 10gbe lanes only
Thanks. An extra Cat6 cable it is! And maybe an older 10/100 PoE switch, since I forgot I have a couple of home automation bridges in that rack using PoE to 5V/USB splitters that I'll need to connect as well.
 

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I am moving from a 6450 to the 7250 (need more 10gb ports) - is there an easy way to transfer the configuration I have on the 6450?
 

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I am moving from a 6450 to the 7250 (need more 10gb ports) - is there an easy way to transfer the configuration I have on the 6450?
Not sure if this is what you're asking or if it helps but I'll take a stab at it. You can copy the config to a tftp server and then back off of it, of course I have no idea if the config is interchangeable between those two switches:

 

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Unless you auto save your config to a TFTP server, it's easier to copy the config and paste to your target device. This is where having an actual lab helps so you can test whether if all commands work.

The only thing off the top of my head is dual mode is no longer available for untagging non-VLAN 1 if one is running at 8.0.80 or newer. Going over Terry Henry's videos the others are
  • spanning tree is enabled by default for 8.0.92
  • LACP syntax is different for 8.0.61+.
 

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Before I start bricking stuff, I'm looking to upgrade my 7150-C12 to 8090k from the fohdeesha default 8080. Guides/videos talk about usb upgrade, but before I brick it, they mention the security of NOT having a cfg installed when going to upgrade.

So... how do you do that? I have the ICX7150 and manifest files on my usb, but how else do I prepare the switch for the upgrade? Is there a doc that I didn't see about "simple" upgrade paths?
 

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Before I start bricking stuff, I'm looking to upgrade my 7150-C12 to 8090k from the fohdeesha default 8080. Guides/videos talk about usb upgrade, but before I brick it, they mention the security of NOT having a cfg installed when going to upgrade.

So... how do you do that? I have the ICX7150 and manifest files on my usb, but how else do I prepare the switch for the upgrade? Is there a doc that I didn't see about "simple" upgrade paths?
I'll pm you the beta version of my new guide
 

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Does anyone know if the Brocade ICX 6650-32-E-ADV ICX6650-32-E-ADV switches that are sold as 32 "active" ports are software locked in the firmware... and is it possible to remove this restriction with an update etc?
 

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Just as a PSA:
If you have some 7450s or other 7xxx switches in a stack running 8070 or newer in production, update to 8080(e or newer) before moving to 809x.

We updated a few stacks from 8070 to 8090 and all stack members except the primary failed the upgrade and had to be manually updated.
 

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