Brocade ICX Series (cheap & powerful 10gbE/40gbE switching)

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  1. FRPII

    FRPII Member

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    Received my 6610-48p from eBay today. I'm a bit miffed that it arrived with damaged ports (not from shipping) without being disclosed before purchasing

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  2. fohdeesha

    fohdeesha Kaini Industries

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    oof, which seller?
     
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  3. mb300sd

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    I cut out some rack ears using the files posted, but they don't seem to match at all when I went to check. Will be a while before I can pull my switch off the rack if I need to measure it's ears.

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    Mine looks like this (found on google):
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  4. fohdeesha

    fohdeesha Kaini Industries

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    could be the alcohol, but I'm pretty sure he made ICX6450 ears and it looks like you have a 6610?
     
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  5. mb300sd

    mb300sd Active Member

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    Ah.

    Anyone that needs 6450 ears, let me know. I have 2 PMs for 6610 ears. If anyone wants to send me dimensional drawings, I can make those as well.
     
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  6. siliconnerd

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    Does anyone have experience with using TDR for cable debug? I have have setup a ICX6610-48P as a core switch for my new house. I have one cable run of ~150ft that is giving me problems. The TDR test looks like it is properly terminated, it is powering the AP at the end of the run, but it won't seem to link at any speed.

    Code:
    SSH@ICX6610-48P Router#show inline power 1/1/46
    
     Port   Admin   Oper    ---Power(mWatts)---  PD Type  PD Class  Pri  Fault/
            State   State   Consumed  Allocated                          Error
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
     1/1/46 On      On          7300      30000  802.3at  Class 4     1  n/a
    SSH@ICX6610-48P Router#show interfaces ethernet 1/1/46
    GigabitEthernet1/1/46 is down, line protocol is down
      Port down for 3 minute(s) 48 second(s)
      Hardware is GigabitEthernet, address is cc4e.243c.0d78 (bia cc4e.243c.0da5)
      Configured speed auto, actual unknown, configured duplex fdx, actual unknown
      Configured mdi mode AUTO, actual unknown
      Member of 3 L2 VLANs, port is dual mode in Vlan 2, port state is BLOCKING
      BPDU guard is Disabled, ROOT protect is Disabled, Designated protect is Disabled
      Link Error Dampening is Disabled
      STP configured to ON, priority is level0, mac-learning is enabled
      Openflow is Disabled, Openflow Hybrid mode is Disabled,  Flow Control is config enabled, oper enabled, negotiation disabled
      Mirror disabled, Monitor disabled
      Mac-notification is disabled
      Not member of any active trunks
      Not member of any configured trunks
      Port name is wifi-garage
      Inter-Packet Gap (IPG) is 96 bit times
      MTU 1500 bytes, encapsulation ethernet
      300 second input rate: 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec, 0.00% utilization
      300 second output rate: 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec, 0.00% utilization
      16107 packets input, 3723084 bytes, 0 no buffer
      Received 1044 broadcasts, 3847 multicasts, 11216 unicasts
      0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 ignored
      0 runts, 0 giants
      77585 packets output, 12908086 bytes, 0 underruns               
      Transmitted 4967 broadcasts, 59834 multicasts, 12784 unicasts
      0 output errors, 0 collisions
      Relay Agent Information option: Disabled
    SSH@ICX6610-48P Router#phy cable-diagnostics tdr 1/1/46
    SSH@ICX6610-48P Router#show cable-diagnostics tdr 1/1/46
    
    Port    Speed   Local pair      Pair Length     Remote pair     Pair status
    ----    -----   ----------      -----------     -----------     -----------
    1/1/46  UNKWN   Pair A          N/A    M        Pair B          Terminated
                    Pair B          N/A    M        Pair A          Terminated
                    Pair C          N/A    M        Pair D          Terminated
                    Pair D          N/A    M        Pair C          Terminated
    If I disconnect the AP, it shows the cable as being open.
    Code:
    SSH@ICX6610-48P Router#phy cable-diag tdr 1/1/46       
    SSH@ICX6610-48P Router#show cable-diagnostics tdr 1/1/46
    
    Port    Speed   Local pair      Pair Length     Remote pair     Pair status
    ----    -----   ----------      -----------     -----------     -----------
    1/1/46  UNKWN   Pair A          0000033M                        Open       
                    Pair B          0000035M                        Open       
                    Pair C          0000036M                        Open       
                    Pair D          0000033M                        Open
    Trying to see if there is any additional debugging available before I start looking at re-pulling the line or invest in a cable tester.
     
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  7. maes

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    Ah yeah, sorry, those were ICX6450 ears. Just realized nowhere in our exchanges did we discuss if we were even talking about ears for the same rack model.
     
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  8. nthu9280

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    I don't need alcohol. I ran my finger across Waterjet some 25+ years ago when I was young and stupid. That was an industrial one. Luckily it wasn't fully pressurized and was in the process of getting ready. Simple band-aid was enough and I still have all the fingers. :)
     
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  9. Octopuss

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    Hello.
    I have my eyes on 7150-C12P because it's fanless, and the house rack is directly next to my wife's (who sometimes works from home) desk, and if there was additional noise I would find myself in a world of pain soon.
    I originally wanted 6450-24P, and even though the fan can be swapped out for something more silent, every additional fan is a bad thing. The 3 HDDs in the server (which is in the opposite corner of the living room) are noisy enough (I'm sensitive to this sort of hum) alone.

    Anyway, the 7150 looks just like what I need, but the prices are killing me. The cheapest I ever found was $400, shipping excluded.
    Just how new are the 7000 series is? You can barely find this particular model at all, and typically way more expensive than $400.

    Is there possibly any other source than Ebay or something? The fact that I'm from Europe doesn't help either as some sellers refuse to ship stuff outside of U.S.
     
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  10. Stephan

    Stephan IT Professional

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    IMHO the only thing going for this switch is PoE+fanless. Do you need PoE? If not, you can go for a fanless and very cheap 1 Gbps Dell PowerConnect 2816 just as well, because while your server might be connected via 10 GBps, your PC will probably be on one of the 1 Gbps ports and that will limit your speed. The switch only has 2 10 GBps capable SFP+ ports. So you either need SFP+ in PC/server as well or some 30-meter-only SFP+ 10GBaseT module.

    Maybe there is a better option (also for Europe) if you can tell us if you want PoE and how many/which SFP+ ports.
     
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  11. Octopuss

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    I do not need PoE, but it's very useful because of rack spagetti. We're currently connected via wifi, and the damn AP on the roof needs a PoE injector. That's a box and extra network cable. Then there will be a wifi AP somewhere on the ceiling or a wall (whatever), which would be additional wire and socket plug to mess around with in the rack.
    So if I can help it, I do want PoE.

    I also don't need more than say two SFP+ ports, because I mainly need to connect the server (because of a NAS VM) via 10GBit for when more PCs access it at the same time, and I also want my own PC sped up (that's where most traffic comes from). The rest can be gigabit for all I care.
    I also like to have at least somewhat modern hardware in the house (silly reason...), so the 7150 looks like the best choice.
     
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  12. Superworms

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    Just received my 6610 about a week ago but its just been sitting in my rack. Besides updating the firmware to the latest available, anyone have any recommendations on how I can test out the switch to make sure everything is working fine? I belive I have an 10gb card I can stick into a test machine but currently looking for some guidance on what my next steps should be after the updates.
     
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  13. FRPII

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    townsenddeals on eBay

    They've offered a return or partial refund. Depending on how much they'd refund (assuming it's fully functional) I may keep it.
     
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  14. Dave Corder

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    Is the 40Gb module in the 6610 series something I can remove from one unit and transplant into another? Thinking about getting a cheap(-er) 6610-24 or something with a working 40Gb module and swapping it into my 6610-48p, instead of buying a whole 'nother 6610-48p, if it's possible to do that.
     
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  15. fohdeesha

    fohdeesha Kaini Industries

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    if you're careful yes, but it needs to be from the same port count switch (24 or 48). the 48 port models have the serial port and OOB mgmt port integrated into the stack card, while the 24 ports do not (theyre on the front)
     
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  16. FRPII

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    Seems the damage is only on the outside plate of the ports. No signs of stress internally. The port blocks are all straight.
     
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  17. FRPII

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    Ah, nevermind. Bunch of dead ports. First time I've been burned in eBay in a decade.

    Beware that seller I guess as they claim it was fully tested. Damage didn't happen in shipping. It was very well packaged and the box is intact.
     
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  18. b1g_bake

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    I snagged a 6450-48P off ebay and it should be here soon. I plan to read this whole thread before I start to ask any questions. I got the idea to look into these switches from Vicious Computers on YouTube. Glad to see a great community here as well.
     
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  19. microserf

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    I've purchased two used TurboIron 24X switches from different eBay sellers that stated they were tested and in working condition. One of them claimed to have certified technicians inspecting things. Both switches arrived with configurations from the rack they'd been pulled from - one from Verisign and one from Symantec - with VLANs, access lists, LAGs, disabled ports, TACACS+, et cetera. :)

    (I've also picked up a new ICX 7250-48P. @fohdeesha should not be permitted to create home budget destroying threads.)
     
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  20. FRPII

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    Yeah I've been trying to convince myself of a 7250-48p instead as the power usage is lower and I have no realistic need for 40gbe...

    The seller is currently trying to convince me that the non-functional ports just needs to be enabled in software... Yeah dude, the whole switch is enabled except the ports that are smashed...
     
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