AMD EPYC Rome CPU via HPE 'upgrade' very cheap

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DL325 GEN10 AMD Epyc 7262 Upgkit (8 core) $417.74

DL325 GEN10 AMD Epyc 7302P Upgkit (16 core) $607.74

DL325 GEN10 AMD Epyc 7402P Upgkit (24 core) $1033.07

I bought the 7302P for $607.74, and a supermicro motherboard H11SSLI v2 for $347.57 (both from Provantage).

My motherboard has arrived, and my 7302P will be shipping tomorrow.
The 7302P costs $923.44 from newegg, so this deal is $300 cheaper.
The upgrade kit warranty is through HPE. I called HPE and verified it comes with the T20 torque wrench.

Update: There is no torque wrench, but there is a 1U Epyc heatsink.
 
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Where is the H11SSL v2? The only one I can see for that price doesn’t mention it being v2 or 7002 compatibility.
 
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Where is the H11SSL v2? The only one I can see for that price doesn’t mention it being v2 or 7002 compatibility.
They don't call out the v2 specifically. I spoke to them on the phone, and told them I needed a v2 to work with the Rome CPU. They assured me the mb was v2. I examined the mb, and it says version 2.0 on it. Pretty sure all currently made H11SSL mb being made are v2.
 
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Really then CPU comes with the T20 ??
HPE don’t ship the T30 torque screwdriver for intel scalable CPU, not to mention a quality torque driver is not cheap.
If they do ship with this I wonder why these and not intel cpu.
 

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Really then CPU comes with the T20 ??
HPE don’t ship the T30 torque screwdriver for intel scalable CPU, not to mention a quality torque driver is not cheap.
If they do ship with this I wonder why these and not intel cpu.
HPE said it came with the wrench. The wrench is an AMD product that ships with all retail Epyc CPUs and is likely not very expensive. It just has one setting. I will be sure as soon as I get my CPU.
 

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Weird. I bought 2 retail ("boxed") Epyc CPUs, and there was no screwdriver included. Never had any trouble tightening the screws with a regular old screwdriver though. Beginning to wonder what the fuss is about o_O
 

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I would have guessed none of the DL series CPU could be considered shall we say ‘retail’ but I guess maybe the cheap low end AMD servers they do.
And sure if you make masses of torque wrench then they won’t be that expensive but if you buy a good brand name they are certainly not ‘cheap’ and should be calibrated every 500 use or whatever ( calibration is probably well overkill for a IT environment fighting CPU’s but in some fields would be needed)
 

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I haven't seen retail Epyc CPUs. I have seen reviews that show an orange handled wrench that clicks at exactly one, fixed torque setting. This is not a general purpose adjustable torque wrench or screwdriver. I will know for sure when my CPU arrives. Personally, I will use a torque wrench to tighten the socket, because I want to be sure the CPU is well seated.

According to AMD's Ryzen Threadripper 1920X and Ryzen Threadripper 1950X CPUs reviewed - The Tech Report AMD included a torque wrench for their Threadripper. There is a photo of the ornage handled wrench. I do have access to one of these, in case my Epyc doesn't cone with a wrench...
 
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They don't call out the v2 specifically. I spoke to them on the phone, and told them I needed a v2 to work with the Rome CPU. They assured me the mb was v2. I examined the mb, and it says version 2.0 on it. Pretty sure all currently made H11SSL mb being made are v2.
Where did you order the H11SSL from?
 

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Thoughts on running the 7302P and H11SSL board with just 4x 32GB DDR4 3200mhz RDIMM’s for a workstation setup?

Any benchmarks that show the real world performance impact on 4 vs 8 channels populated on Epyc 7002?

I’d like to eventually bump up to 256GB, but really just need 128GB ram for a workstation right now, but want upgradability in the future.
 
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Supermicro says using 4 or 8 ram slots is a recommended configuration. I don't have mine put together yet, but I suspect 4 channels will be find for all of my needs. If you find benchmarks showing a difference between 4 and 8 channels, I would like to see them. I bought four 32gb RDIMMS for mine.

Supermicro also says: "The motherboard will support odd-numbered modules (1 or 3 modules installed). However, to achieve the best memory performance, a balanced memory population is recommended."
So I would guess 4 or 8 sticks is not necessary.
 

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Thoughts on running the 7302P and H11SSL board with just 4x 32GB DDR4 3200mhz RDIMM’s for a workstation setup?

Any benchmarks that show the real world performance impact on 4 vs 8 channels populated on Epyc 7002?

I’d like to eventually bump up to 256GB, but really just need 128GB ram for a workstation right now, but want upgradability in the future.
7302P replaces 2 x E5-2670 v1 with lower power consumption and a bit less performance when comparing linux compiles per hour.

For memory performance, depends on your workload. Simplify it to considering latency vs bandwidth.

Single threaded items like gaming benefit from latency:

Single Channel vs. Dual Channel vs. Quad Channel Memory
Single Channel vs Dual Channel Memory: Which Is Better? | Beebom

These are single, dual and quad channel comparisons. EPYC is not a radically new memory architecture => quad vs octa channel memory performance likely follows the same principles.
 

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These are single, dual and quad channel comparisons
Not really: "NOTE: In our test, we originally made the error of thinking that we were running our 4x8GB configuration in quad-channel configuration. However, as pointed out by Xenotester in the comment section, the Intel Core i7-8700K does not support quad-channel memory, but, rather, is limited to dual channel configurations."
Consequently, I would not take any advice from a source like that :rolleyes:
 

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Has anyone received shipment notification for the HPE 7302p/7402p processors from Provantage?
 

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Has anyone received shipment notification for the HPE 7302p/7402p processors from Provantage?
I ordered a 7402p a few days ago but the special order time said 12 days so I don't expect an invoice for a while.
 

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Not really: "NOTE: In our test, we originally made the error of thinking that we were running our 4x8GB configuration in quad-channel configuration. However, as pointed out by Xenotester in the comment section, the Intel Core i7-8700K does not support quad-channel memory, but, rather, is limited to dual channel configurations."
Consequently, I would not take any advice from a source like that :rolleyes:
Like everything (on the internet), its a data point, not gospel =)

If multiple sources show similar data, the theory may hold water.

HardOCP, Overclockers, et. al have technical articles but I can't find them since Google search promotes these newer articles ..

The trend holds on my X79 / C602 and X99 / C612 platforms for single, dual and quad channel with the same CPU and RAM.

The gold standard is sampling the specific hardware and benchmark-ing the workload. Vendors will happily oblige if it means a sale. With the caveat in cases of high demand, low supply, like EPYC 7002. It wont be as easy as asking for a sample.

Found out about the ASRock Rack ROMED8-2T, EPYC 7002 + 7 x PCI-E 4.0 x16 slots !



Though there is the strange decision to multiplex PCIe 2 and NVMe/SATA/OCUlink ports