I didn't test it, but it definitely won't fit in a 1U, for that your only options are 40mm fans and the stock passive heatsink. I think my duct would need a 3U at least, because 80mm fans don't really fit above a motherboard in a 2U.
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No worries.
In reality MAYBE the Power Factor it's not *that* bad especially if it's a quality PSU, but it's still something you should check. At least that should be the way to do it: assume the Power Factor is not great as a starting point. Never assume otherwise
. Then if measurement prove that it's better than expected all the better of course.After all, since it's not required to be that good and every manufacturertries to save pennies on whatever they can when designing their PSU, I would NOT expect that they do significantly better than the minimum required.
EDIT 1: my comment was even more true and generic in regards to your statement about "SMPS" (not necessarily ATX for a PC). SMPS essentially just means that it's NOT a Linear Regulator but it's a Switching Converter instead. It does NOT make ANY claim about Power Factor, Efficiency, etc.
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I was thinking that might be the case. I've found some official 1u active heatsink/fan combos for the E3 1150 socket, I'm just concerned that the fan is going to be extremely loud, like the other fans are that I'm planning on swapping out by adding the 40mm fans to the other heatsinks using the 3D printed shrouds.
I suppose there is another option to make a custom centrifugal blower setup, if you're up for it, perhaps two of these each ducted to half of the heatsink (so they don't interfere with each other) could work: Dell Inspiron OptiPlex Vostro Cooling Fan AVC BASB1120R2U 3WY43 03WY43 | eBay
That's kind of what this is, no? Supermicro SNK-P0049A4 1U Active CPU Heat Sink For Intel Socket LGA 1156 | eBay
I mean you could place the blowers in the front of the chassis and duct them onto the included passive 1U heatsink, would probably be quieter since the individual blowers are larger and wouldn't have to spin as fast, plus that 1U heatsink has a lot more capacity than the little one stuck under the blower.
True. I'm not super keen on the official one, because I've had fans like that before and the point is to try and lower the sound levels, not raise them, which that would assuredly do. I might try a total jank method of attaching an 80mm fan to the heatsink directly, though there's no copper to help with the heat dissipation :/.
The stock 1U heatsinks have a spiral of heat pipes in the base, or at least the LGA2011 ones do, pretty sure they're constructed the same. Simply laying a fan on the heatsink doesn't get you great flow though because the fan doesn't move any air at the hub and most of the airflow from the perimeter just hits the outside edges of the heatsink fins and then exits.
I've definitely seen some, but I don't recall their model numbers. Sorry.
Tons of options out there with that, but you presumably want cheap. That's not happening currently. The motherboard discussed in this thread was a custom SKU built specifically for Softlayer. They likely realized that there were more economical options out there on newer generations of hardware that negated the need for the sizable capital expense of paying an OEM to design another motherboard.
If you can live with a 1U appliance that has no PCIe slots and limited room for disks, then there are options. I have some with a Xeon D-2187NT, 2 x Intel X710, 4 x Intel X722, 6 x Intel I350 (just 1GbE), and 2 x M.2 slots for example.
Better question is, why don't you just use a PCIe NIC?
If you can live with a 1U appliance that has no PCIe slots and limited room for disks, then there are options. I have some with a Xeon D-2187NT, 2 x Intel X710, 4 x Intel X722, 6 x Intel I350 (just 1GbE), and 2 x M.2 slots for example.
Better question is, why don't you just use a PCIe NIC?
Old Thread but I was wondering, given the high Power Consumption Figures ... Did anybody check to see if ASPM is enabled ?
My Experience on the X10SLL-F/X10SLM-F Series at least showed me that you need:
- ACPI Patching of FADT to allow ASPM: GitHub - luckylinux/acpi-linux-patching: Some Scripts to Patch ACPI Issues (mainly FADT for ASPM Support)
- ASPM Tweaking Script: GitHub - luckylinux/aspm-troubleshooting: aspm-troubleshooting (run
- BIOS: enable ASPM for both CPU and PCH Slots, you might need to Force L0L1 instead of Auto etc
Check Result with
It could still be a good small Router with those NICs, even though they only support 1gbps and 10gbps (2.5gbps and 5.0gbps are not supported) and SFP+ RJ45 Modules are both expensive and Power Hungry.
My Experience on the X10SLL-F/X10SLM-F Series at least showed me that you need:
- ACPI Patching of FADT to allow ASPM: GitHub - luckylinux/acpi-linux-patching: Some Scripts to Patch ACPI Issues (mainly FADT for ASPM Support)
- ASPM Tweaking Script: GitHub - luckylinux/aspm-troubleshooting: aspm-troubleshooting (run
python3 aspm.py --auto and, if there are stubborn Devices, force them to enable ASPM with python3 aspm.py -d 02:00.0 for Instance)- BIOS: enable ASPM for both CPU and PCH Slots, you might need to Force L0L1 instead of Auto etc
Check Result with
powertop / turbostat.It could still be a good small Router with those NICs, even though they only support 1gbps and 10gbps (2.5gbps and 5.0gbps are not supported) and SFP+ RJ45 Modules are both expensive and Power Hungry.
Dell/EMC Edge 3800.
Since you are using these as routers, many more options out there. Feel free to start another thread on the topic and I can provide some recommendations.
I don't want to derail this thread, but this Edge 3800 box seems interesting - is there any information out there on storage options, OOB management, power consumption, noise, etc for this platform?
I have one a few feet away from me with pfSense installed. What do you want to know?
I can create a thread on these detailing all the hardware, but it might take me a few days.
Does somebody know of a "Successor" to this Board though ?
Like a Xeon E3 v5/v6 or E-21xx/E-22xx, possibly using a X550 instead of a X540 NIC ?
Like a Xeon E3 v5/v6 or E-21xx/E-22xx, possibly using a X550 instead of a X540 NIC ?
Sure thing. I still need to play with the IPMI on it a bit. At least it doesn't appear to be locked down in any way.Please do, I'm not in a hurry
I Looked quickly on eBay and it seems to be > 700 USD so WAY more expensive than I would like.
As for pricing, I have access to them for less than that.
TL
R the board is probably going to be an idle hog no matter what.I don't have mine anymore, I replaced mine with a cwwk fanless mini pc with 2.5gbe ports. (works great).
Previously, I ran it and I tried enabling "all" the power save features in bios. No i don't recall exactly how they were set because I don't have the board anymore. I never got it under 50W idle even when jumpering the x540 NICs off.
I was using opnsense (freebsd) so no linux kernel patching anyway.
My pet theory is it's the PLX switch that's sucking up the juice, or that even jumpering off the nics doesn't really cut off their power.
edit: ah our fellow eduncan here measured 13w even when powered off, just for the aspeed IPMI:
Probably some of these, but I see 4x10gbe as the Maximum and they are mostly Xeon-D or Atom based for that Configuration.
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I'm not sure if the BIOS I flashed has NVMe support for add on cards. I have tried using a SuperMicro AOC-SLG3-2M2 which plugs in two m.2 SSDs. I'm only seeing one SSD within the OS (Linux). I also tried using a Highpoint card that supports 4 m.2 SSDs, and has native boot and RAID support and I'm getting zero visible drives.
@BlueFox any ideas or other ROMs?
@EasyRhino any other modded BIOS images hanging around?
@BlueFox any ideas or other ROMs?
@EasyRhino any other modded BIOS images hanging around?
Always. Good, Cheap. Pick one
.And the Supermicro X10SLL-F/X10SLM-F was one of my main favorite Platform (technically still is) so the X10SLH-LN6TF is from the same "Family".
That's why I'm surprised at the HUGE Idle Power Consumption of this X10SLH-LN6TF.
I suspect nobody checked ASPM support being Enabled and supported by all the Hardware, at least there was not mention of ASPM at all in this Thread.
That's why I believe that the Power Consumption is so high. The X10SLL-F eats I think around 25W at almost Idle. And the X10SLL-F had a finicky BIOS Bug with FADT Tables, so you need to patch those in a custom initramfs (or a pre-initramfs so to speak) to force ASPM on.
Apparently each X540-T2 can use up to 17W when both ports are in 10gbps mode
. Even when not doing anything ??? Holy ****.What's the Part Number for those ?
Right now I am using the X10SLM-F/X10SLL-F for one Virtualized (Proxmox VE) OPNsense Router, the X11SSL-F for the other Virtualized (Proxmox VE) OPNSense Router
.In Terms of NIC, the Intel X710-DA2 seems to be the best. The Intel XXV710-DA2 is another Option.
The Mellanox ConnectX-4 LX ONLY if in PCH connected Slot (NOT CPU connected PCIe Slot) for ASPM to work correctly, otherwise no
.I was just wondering if it was worth to grab one of these from the US since I am already ordering some stuff from there shipped to Europe via Jetcarrier, so they could come along as well
.But I could also grab some X710-DA2, XXV710-DA2 or Mellanox ConnectX-4 LX if I really wanted, like I have been doing for some other Builds (X10SLL-F, X11SSL-F, Fujitsu TX1320 M3, etc).
I prefer SFP+ since the Switches are so much cheaper (and less Power hungry) though.
oh I dunno man I retired my board maybe two years ago. Got a little cwwk mini pc I can leave in the living room.
In that case, a modification of the eeprom for the PLX8747 might be in order.
See here: PCIE switch, oculink, nvme and sata
and here: PEX 8747 | 48-Lane, 5-Port PCI Express (8 GT/s) Switch