12gen N-series Nas motherboard (topton, cwwk, ... )
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Hi,
I got a BKHD NAS N100 board and the HDD activity LED is always on. It's too bright. I remember this being an issue of using a SATA SSD rather than NVMe, but this one has an NVMe and I can't find the source of the issue. Did anyone else have this issue?
I got a BKHD NAS N100 board and the HDD activity LED is always on. It's too bright. I remember this being an issue of using a SATA SSD rather than NVMe, but this one has an NVMe and I can't find the source of the issue. Did anyone else have this issue?
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Just received manual for n150 motherboard from Topton, its about 50% chinease but still pretty good info in there.
Its for this motherboard n100/ n150/ n305:
![Screenshot 2025-03-23 at 22-15-18 1 10G 2 i226-V 2.5G I[...].png](https://forums.servethehome.com/data/attachments/42/42745-6c7d296f05f39af270a5e24a7297dd30.jpg "Screenshot 2025-03-23 at 22-15-18 1 10G 2 i226-V 2.5G I[...].png")
https://mega.nz/file/xrtyXJII#6LLwp0Ij8PdjtapVKVDxEG0gmeL1aiBJ44X9QizhObk
or
https://www.mediafire.com/file/e5gjws8rwg1r1nw/N18-N100-NAS%25E8%25AF%25B4%25E6%2598%258E%25E4%25B9%25A6.pdf/file
btw, im using this n150 mb with DDR5 32GB Transcend JetRam and everything good so far, only power usage seems kinda high to me, about 40w with BeQuiet ps and 20TB Toshiba hdd.
Its for this motherboard n100/ n150/ n305:
https://mega.nz/file/xrtyXJII#6LLwp0Ij8PdjtapVKVDxEG0gmeL1aiBJ44X9QizhObk
or
https://www.mediafire.com/file/e5gjws8rwg1r1nw/N18-N100-NAS%25E8%25AF%25B4%25E6%2598%258E%25E4%25B9%25A6.pdf/file
btw, im using this n150 mb with DDR5 32GB Transcend JetRam and everything good so far, only power usage seems kinda high to me, about 40w with BeQuiet ps and 20TB Toshiba hdd.
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Good evening everyone,
I've read a lot here and now I wanted to share my experiences with the CW-NAS-ADLN-K with the N100 and ASM1166.
Hardware:
With this fresh Unraid 7.1.0 Beta, I achieve C8 and Powertop – auto-tune works without any errors.
Since there are reports of people having issues with Powertop AutoTune, you need a kernel from 6.11 onward! Anything below causes problems when Powertop changes the Intel i226v from Bad to Good, which is what AutoTune does.
So, if you don't have a 6.11 kernel, you can set everything to Good manually, except for the Intel 226v!
And ACPI D3Cold Support must be disabled, otherwise Powertop won't work either.
According to the Nous A1T Tasmota outlet, the idle power consumption is about 6 watts +/-
This is my starting point from which I will continue.
Unfortunately, I also have the problem with the ASPM settings in the BIOS not being saved.
I solved it by simply saving the finished settings in the BIOS as a User Default. Then, when I enter the BIOS, I load my settings and ASPM is automatically restored to how I had set it. If you know of a better way, please let me know.
What still puzzles me is why my BIOS date is so recent. I haven't found any BIOS on the internet with that date.
I've read a lot here and now I wanted to share my experiences with the CW-NAS-ADLN-K with the N100 and ASM1166.
Hardware:
- CW-NAS-ADLN-K (Purple with N100 and ASM1166) / BIOS Date: 27 Nov 2024 (I haven't seen a BIOS with this date anywhere else so far)
- 8GB DDR5 5600 (4800)
- 1GB USB2 stick with Unraid
- PicoPSU 90 Watt
- Leicke 75 Watt
- No SSD or other storage – only a USB stick and one LAN cable
With this fresh Unraid 7.1.0 Beta, I achieve C8 and Powertop – auto-tune works without any errors.
Since there are reports of people having issues with Powertop AutoTune, you need a kernel from 6.11 onward! Anything below causes problems when Powertop changes the Intel i226v from Bad to Good, which is what AutoTune does.
So, if you don't have a 6.11 kernel, you can set everything to Good manually, except for the Intel 226v!
And ACPI D3Cold Support must be disabled, otherwise Powertop won't work either.
According to the Nous A1T Tasmota outlet, the idle power consumption is about 6 watts +/-
This is my starting point from which I will continue.
Unfortunately, I also have the problem with the ASPM settings in the BIOS not being saved.
I solved it by simply saving the finished settings in the BIOS as a User Default. Then, when I enter the BIOS, I load my settings and ASPM is automatically restored to how I had set it. If you know of a better way, please let me know.
What still puzzles me is why my BIOS date is so recent. I haven't found any BIOS on the internet with that date.
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Perhaps you got your purple board from a supplier with a different batch and a different bios. It's good that the ASPM is accessible, even if it doesn't want to stick! (I'm assuming you did an explicit save settings). Do the settings stick through a normal reboot amd only get cleared on entering the bios?
As long as I don't re-enter the BIOS, the settings remain unchanged.
I've noticed that when I shut down the PC, it still consumes 2 watts, and the LAN port continues to blink. A proper shutdown should look different. I also want to minimize the power consumption of the iGPU as much as possible without disabling it—just configuring it to be as energy-efficient as possible. Let's see what's achievable in that regard.
I've noticed that when I shut down the PC, it still consumes 2 watts, and the LAN port continues to blink. A proper shutdown should look different. I also want to minimize the power consumption of the iGPU as much as possible without disabling it—just configuring it to be as energy-efficient as possible. Let's see what's achievable in that regard.
I think the power draw at "off" is due to the Intel Management Engine still being powered up, which also keeps the network ports active as you see. This is by design in order to allow remote management, however I think due to poor design it draws more power than it should.
What I also found out is that kernel 6.11+ alone is not enough for Powertop Autotune to function on the Intel 226v.
ACPI D3Cold Support must be disabled in the BIOS; otherwise, you cannot use Powertop on the Intel 226v.
The BIOS is really weird and crazy. The PC even starts as soon as it gets power, and Restore AC Power Loss is set to Power Off. So that doesn't work either.
These boards are really not for beginners who want everything simple and fast—you're going to have to invest time to get them running. The boards aren’t bad, but you can tell there isn’t much love put into these products.
@phil-2024
It's not important to me right now since the PC will run as a server 24/7 anyway. Still, it can't be configured, which I don't like—just like with Restore AC Power Loss. I don't need it, but it's not good that it doesn't work.
ACPI D3Cold Support must be disabled in the BIOS; otherwise, you cannot use Powertop on the Intel 226v.
The BIOS is really weird and crazy. The PC even starts as soon as it gets power, and Restore AC Power Loss is set to Power Off. So that doesn't work either.
These boards are really not for beginners who want everything simple and fast—you're going to have to invest time to get them running. The boards aren’t bad, but you can tell there isn’t much love put into these products.
@phil-2024
It's not important to me right now since the PC will run as a server 24/7 anyway. Still, it can't be configured, which I don't like—just like with Restore AC Power Loss. I don't need it, but it's not good that it doesn't work.
I don't think these types of boards from China get much testing, and hardly ever get new BIOS's.
Intel ME is seen as a security risk in any sort of router/firewall application, and its had a few vulnerabilities over the years. Protectli for example have modified their firmware to allow it to be disabled.
@phil-2024
Ok, that's interesting. Maybe it's possible to mod the BIOS to disable Intel ME.
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I have now disabled Intel ME in the BIOS, but unfortunately, the LAN port is still blinking. Perhaps it is not properly disabled, or it has nothing to do with it. In any case, I will now keep Intel ME disabled and test whether Unraid also runs without Intel ME.
Ok, that's interesting. Maybe it's possible to mod the BIOS to disable Intel ME.
EDIT:
I have now disabled Intel ME in the BIOS, but unfortunately, the LAN port is still blinking. Perhaps it is not properly disabled, or it has nothing to do with it. In any case, I will now keep Intel ME disabled and test whether Unraid also runs without Intel ME.
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Hi guys
I just got a CWWK CW-ADLN-NAS board with 6 SATA ports, 2 M.2 slots and 4 network connectors.
The issue is that I cannot get it to detect a known working M.2 Transcend 128Gb SATA SSD. I tried to change different BIOS settings with no success.
Also, cannot access the CWWK BIOS download page to try and update it. I get a "failed to list objs: AccountProblem" error.
Thanks for any help you can offer
I just got a CWWK CW-ADLN-NAS board with 6 SATA ports, 2 M.2 slots and 4 network connectors.
The issue is that I cannot get it to detect a known working M.2 Transcend 128Gb SATA SSD. I tried to change different BIOS settings with no success.
Also, cannot access the CWWK BIOS download page to try and update it. I get a "failed to list objs: AccountProblem" error.
Thanks for any help you can offer
I don't think these boards work with SATA SSDs that utilise the M.2 connector, they will only work with SATA via the traditional SATA ports. Some boards will work and support SATA via M.2, but a lot of these direct from China boards don't.
I just ordered the purple CW-NAS-ADLN-K N150 version. Has anyone tried a Noctua NH-L9i with it? I haven't decided on a cooler but would like a quite one. Or would a stock Intel cooler suffice?
Edit: Looks like it should fit: https://forums.servethehome.com/ind...nas-motherboard-topton-cwwk.42432/post-405645
Edit: Looks like it should fit: https://forums.servethehome.com/ind...nas-motherboard-topton-cwwk.42432/post-405645
I have the purple N305 board with the Noctua NH-L9i ... It's overkill for sure, but I had it laying around. The boards should be identical. Check the copper heatsink, if it touches die CPU die ... Few people including me had issues with large gaps. I personally used thermal pads (around 20C difference).
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FYI. Topton N17 7840HS, excellent performance and low power consumption but crashed/failed to boot regardless of PSU/OS randomly and often. Returned for refund, but i'm left with 32GB of DDR5 UDIMMs with no purpose.
The CWWK 8845 8 bay is tempting, but i think i've seen similar issues reported. If i did pull the trigger it would have to be via the next aliexpress sale where refunds are relatively painless. Does feel a bit like the definition of insanity though...
The CWWK 8845 8 bay is tempting, but i think i've seen similar issues reported. If i did pull the trigger it would have to be via the next aliexpress sale where refunds are relatively painless. Does feel a bit like the definition of insanity though...
Is the newer purple board really that much better than this older green one? Specially for TrueNas Scale use, with an N305.
The main difference being ASMedia ASM1166 vs JMicron JMB585 as far as I know.
The green one is unfortunately the only one available on Prime in the UK. I could order from China but it'll be very difficult to return should there be any problems. Also Aliexpress don't always side with the customer, unlike Amazon.
The main difference being ASMedia ASM1166 vs JMicron JMB585 as far as I know.
The green one is unfortunately the only one available on Prime in the UK. I could order from China but it'll be very difficult to return should there be any problems. Also Aliexpress don't always side with the customer, unlike Amazon.
Aliexpress is fine, they have a UK returns warehouse in Bracknell. Up to 5 free returns per month. I've had no problems returning the Topton N17. Took a about a week to process due to the value. I've returned other items that have been refunded immediately once posted via Royal Mail. I would make sure the board is working as required before installing in a case. I'm pretty sure that not removing the accessories (backplate etc) from their packaging aided my return. I also took a lot of pictures of my packing of the return and a video of the error.
The purple board direct from CWWK's aliexpress store would be the safest bet. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007160028086.html I would strongly advise against Topton based on my recent interaction with them, not helpful at all. I would also wait for the next up to 60% off sale in a few weeks, make sure to use the GB coupon codes. AliExpress Sale Dates 2025
The purple board direct from CWWK's aliexpress store would be the safest bet. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007160028086.html I would strongly advise against Topton based on my recent interaction with them, not helpful at all. I would also wait for the next up to 60% off sale in a few weeks, make sure to use the GB coupon codes. AliExpress Sale Dates 2025