I get my paper towels and those kind of things at the Staples and I Had 30 Dollars in Rwards so i checked the hard drive aisle the External USB Seagte 4tb drives with the USB Hub were on sal efor $99.99 DOWN FROM 109.99. I grabbe one just because i had the 30 bucks in rewards. So it's a good deal if you have some rewards at staples. Anyway thought i'd pass it on. I know some of you all don't like seagates but it might be a good deal for some.