Xeon silver 4110 $395

[Evan]

stumbled on this just now...
Newegg has Xeon silver 4110 via anro line in the form of a HP spare part at $100 or more below intel cost.

HP 826846-B21 Dl380 Gen10 4110 Xeon-S Kit - Newegg.com

 

[nkw]

stumbled on this just now...
Newegg has Xeon silver 4110 via anro line in the form of a HP spare part at $100 or more below intel cost.

HP 826846-B21 Dl380 Gen10 4110 Xeon-S Kit - Newegg.com

Also on e-bay:

HP Intel Xeon 4110 Octa-core (8 Core) 2.10 GHz Processor Upgrade - Socket 3647 | eBay

 

[Evan]

Great price !!

Tempting...
I was only trying to figure out before I contemplated scalable 1P systems if there was an advantage in 8-core vs 10-core in any Microsoft license, but even the 16-cores license able in action pack is one for 1 system I assume and can't split between 2 hardware.

 

[Davewolfs]

Epyc

 

[Patrick]

Also on e-bay:

HP Intel Xeon 4110 Octa-core (8 Core) 2.10 GHz Processor Upgrade - Socket 3647 | eBay

You do not want to know how much I paid to get these early.

BTW if you wanted a bit of comparison data should be in most if not all of these charts Intel Xeon Silver 4112 Linux Benchmarks and Review

 

[Evan]

@Patrick i don't know if this is an error or what as it's very cheap, still I think it's an ok company to deal with. I wouldn't mind stepping up to 4114 though, kind a sweet spot for a 1P system I think and 192gb ram then works nicely.
If they had 4114's with that type of discount I would have pressed buy already !

Nothing I can think of I run will be better off license wise with 8 cores vs 10. Kind of a shame Microsoft does not allow a single CPU 8 core cheaper license.

Other issue is availability of desired board and suitable coolers so would end up with a CPU and no way to use it... (not that I don't already have some v3/v4's in that bucket right now)

 

[Evan]

Yep boards can easily cost more than the CPU ! Ouch, I know brand new but the supermicro board prices seem to be up considerably on the v3/v4 same versions.

 

[Davewolfs]

@Patrick are the 4110 and 1541 nearly equivalent?

 

[Patrick]

@Patrick are the 4110 and 1541 nearly equivalent?

Edge to 4110.

• 6 channel memory v 2
• Newer micro architecture with more effective eache
• More PCIe 3.0
• More SATA 3
• Higher single thread turbo clock speed

D-1541 better for power consumption and smaller footprint. I would not sell a D-1541 for the Silver 4110 just for the performance bump.

 

[Davewolfs]

Edge to 4110.

• 6 channel memory v 2
• Newer micro architecture with more effective eache
• More PCIe 3.0
• More SATA 3
• Higher single thread turbo clock speed

D-1541 better for power consumption and smaller footprint. I would not sell a D-1541 for the Silver 4110 just for the performance bump.

I have my 1541 mounted on the wall in my walk in closet - it's not going anywhere

It would be nice to see it included in some of these benchmarks as it seems to have similar clocks.

This silver line looks good for lighter workload style computing but also fully capable.

 

[Evan]

But I think we can read between the lines of the power figures @Patrick has included in his reviews that there is very little difference, there was also little difference to e5 v4, even looking at HP DL60 review idle figures compared to the Xeon-D figures.

 

[cactus]

Edge to 4110.

• 6 channel memory v 2
• Newer micro architecture with more effective eache
• More PCIe 3.0
• More SATA 3
• Higher single thread turbo clock speed

D-1541 better for power consumption and smaller footprint. I would not sell a D-1541 for the Silver 4110 just for the performance bump.

Would you build with a 1541 over a 4110 today?

 

[Evan]

Would you build with a 1541 over a 4110 today?

If you want mini-ITX form factor then yes !

Is the calculation much different that would you build a d-1541 over an E5-2620v4 ?? Maybe a little since more scalable boards have 10G onboard but so did a reasonable number of E5 boards.

I am really trying to get my head around this exact question, my d-1540 has served good duty so far... but I have some other systems to consolidate, I originally thought no way I would use a c3000 systems but just maybe it makes sense for a firewall and always on minimal cluster then use E5/scalable as the pure lab environment.

Power,heat,noise,size are the things to minimize while still providing a decent performing environment.
To that end I was thinking to colo a system for backup and redundancy but seems pretty pricy to do it right.

 

[Patrick]

Would you build with a 1541 over a 4110 today?

Yikes. Loaded question.

The other side is the EPYC 7000P series CPUs. $2100 for the 7551P, $1100 for the 7401P, $750 for the 7351P.

Motherboards cost more but the 7551P essentially puts four D-1541 in a single socket (8 cores / 2x DDR4 channels per socket.)

The Xeon D is nice for low power scale-out web and storage nodes. Xeon Silver is nice if you need more RAM and I/O. The hard part with the Silver is that there are a lot of upgrade options.

 

[nkw]

So I jumped on two of these from the eBay listing. One arrived today, the other tomorrow. If it was a pricing error (the kit is now listed at $668), kudos to antonline for actually shipping them out. I'm sure some vendors would have tried to weasel out.

Now it occurs to me these don't do me a lot of good without a LGA 3647 motherboard. Ultimately it seems like the thing to do with these would be something with lots of NVMe, along these lines, but with more SFP+/QSFP+ and less copper.

What is the deal with "[d]ue to the complexity of integration, this product is sold as completely assembled systems only (with minimum 2 CPU, 4 DIMMs and 4 NVMe drives)"? Is that really a thing with Supermicro now? At least if you shell out for the actual HPE DL380 Gen10s this kit was supposed to go in you get those cool green spinny disk LEDs.

 

[Marsh]

antonline

Take screen shot now with the correct price.

This Ebay seller pull a fast one on us before.
They even changed the EBAY listing , description , pictures , making it more difficult to get our refund from Paypal.

 

[nkw]

Take screen shot now with the correct price.

One of the first things I did. I was half expecting the order to be canceled, but was pleasantly surprised it was not. The processors shipped from D&H, so maybe they had a pricing issue and antonline just passed it on in an automated fashion.

 

[Evan]

Even though it's not great for the seller I am glad I helped somebody with a good deal.

 

[K D]

Edge to 4110.

• 6 channel memory v 2
• Newer micro architecture with more effective eache
• More PCIe 3.0
• More SATA 3
• Higher single thread turbo clock speed

D-1541 better for power consumption and smaller footprint. I would not sell a D-1541 for the Silver 4110 just for the performance bump.

@Patrick I agree with the smaller footprint but power consumption is not that different once you take everything else into account.

Right now I have a xeon D 1518 idling at 67w and X11SPL-F + Silver 4110 idling at 73w.

Both are in an SC826 chassis with identical 500w PSUs.

Both have 4 16GB Sticks and a 256GB Sata M.2

The Xeon silver has 3 LSI 9341-8i and a mellanox connextx3 card.

The numbers are what IPMI reports. I see around 65-70 watts with a Xeon D 1528 as well

I built my new lab cluster with 2 1528 and 2 1541 nodes and 2 storage nodes with 1518. But with all the parts from the FS/FT and Great deals sections, I feel hobbled with the current setup and decided to replace all the Xeon D compute nodes with silver 4114s.

It is probably an overkill but going by the past, Supermicro boards usually support atleast 2 generations of processors so atleast it will last atleast 3-5 years for me. I like to tinker with hardware and the Xeon D's are not very tinker friendly with the smaller footprint and limited pcie.

 

[Evan]

@K D what was in the d-1518 system that made it idle that high ?
The idle on the silver with the 4 cards is really good. The extra memory possibilities in the silver system I think are nice. 192gb or 256gb over 128gb all using 32gb rdimm is a decent bump and practically unlimited CPU increases if the $$ and need exists.