I have an H11SSL-i with EPYC 7232p, 128GB of DDR4 ECC DRAM, 2 1TB NVMe drives, 3 3.84TB SATA SSDs, 1 6TB SATA EXOS spinner, and various other minor things. Idle consumption for the entire system is under 80W.
Xeon Scalable vs EPYC idle power consumption
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h12ssl, 7443p, 128gb ram, 17x 16tb hdds in a sm 846 with sas expander backplane and raid controller: idle ~190 watt* (windows server 2022 login screen, large movie file being read from the array)
*measured via ups: system under load - system was powerded off
@graczunia how do you define "idle"?
*measured via ups: system under load - system was powerded off
@graczunia how do you define "idle"?
I don't think the OP, @graczunia, is specifically sweating 100w. That came into the discussion later. Reading their post, I think their main question was, could they replace a dual E5 v2 system with something newer and get both more compute and more efficiency? They specifically mention Scalable and Epyc but mention they are open to other ideas.
Since Sandy/Ivy Bridge are a dead end upgrade wise, a system upgrade is going to require replacing motherbaord, CPU, and RAM. @graczunia , I'm not sure if your main criteria is reducing consumption or replacing a system that's on an almost 10 year old platform?
Reading everyone's replies, the consensus (which I agree with) is that it's going to be the disks, HBA(s) , 10G networking, maybe PSUs if they are innefficient, and everyting else that's attached, that drive the higher consumption. If you replace a dual E5-26xx V2 motherboard and CPUs with a single early generation Scalable or EPYC, but transfer over/reuse your other components with the same general configuration, you may get more compute/easier management, but it won't save you much powerwise.
There also seems to be a consensus that, for the early generations, EPYC drew more power. I don't have either one, so can't comment on that.
Since you'll need Motherboard, CPU and RAM as a minimum, the 500 euro budget for the base components is going to be tight. You'll get newer, but not much better in the efficiency area.
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Saw another post of yours in another thread and remembered that I wanted to treply to a certain post
In my case even when nothing was read from the array the differences were between 5-10watt (usually closer to 5 watt)
they are very good at default settings, only all flash(faster flash, not sata) ZFS and ceph requires the bios tuning imho, but for most stuck stuff default is plenty good.
its quite easy to get it to use 270w vs the 200w you were at and marginal performance... and across servers and time this is $$$. I've been tuning 100G and ceph stuff for hours today... an excersise in futility, I'm now back at what the previous baseline we use for ZFS systems... (and really all performance systems)
its quite easy to get it to use 270w vs the 200w you were at and marginal performance... and across servers and time this is $$$. I've been tuning 100G and ceph stuff for hours today... an excersise in futility, I'm now back at what the previous baseline we use for ZFS systems... (and really all performance systems)
I do have a spare ASUS Z10PE-D16 WS, might play around with it and see how it goes - would fit perfectly in my Supermicro chassis.
For the sake of the argument let's assume system is booted into Proxmox with a TrueNAS VM running, no reads/writes on the disks/network activity.
Spot on - I'm looking for a replacement for the powerhog that the dual E5 v2 system is; not really considering how to reduce it's power draw as it doesn't seem to be worth the effort. Something that is more 'worthy' to run 24/7 on a student budget for a lack of better word
Not really sweating the 100w indeed, just trying to find something that would give me better performance per watt, although I am trying to reduce my lab's overall power consumption - and replacing this system would be a huge step towards that. One way or another, the system has to go and if I'm going to shell out some money I'd rather do it right and pick up something that would last me a couple good years - and while LGA2011-3 might be the way to go, I figured I'd might as well look into something newer as I'm rather unfamiliar with anything beyond E5 V4's.
Maybe I should specify more, here are the current system specs:
2x E5-2630L v2
Supermicro X9DRH-7F
12x8GB DDR3 ECC
2x Supermicro 750W Platinum
Intel 82599 (x520) NIC
2x 120GB SATA SSD
2x Samsung PM983 0.96TB
8x HGST 2TB
According to IPMI, it seems to idle in the neighborhood of 150W, with a very light load putting it up to over 200W. If I could come up with something that gives me say, twice the performance while cutting the idle power in half I'd see that as a win. I might stretch out the budget a little by selling off the CPU/MB/RAM combo, but the rest would ideally stay. There are for sure some further optimizations to be made (drive spindown, bigger but less drives etc), but the E5 v2 system doesn't seem to be a good base for it as the hardware itself is simply inefficient compared to modern offerings.