SUPERMICRO MBD-X12SPO-F-B ATX

[jolness]

If anyone is looking for a single socket Xeon Scalable 3rd gen board, this appears to be much cheaper than I could find anywhere else. I am tempted to move from my Broadwell dual socket board to one of these (especially since I only have used one of the sockets) but I am not limited at this point by my server. Figured I would pass this on here.

SUPERMICRO MBD-X12SPO-F-B ATX Server Mot - $341.55 - Free shipping for Prime members

 

[RolloZ170]

nice price, you need the saved money for the CPU.

 

[jolness]

nice price, you need the saved money for the CPU.

Yeah they are definitely not cheap, even for the lower core count models.But figured this might be helpful for someone who has access to retired parts at a cheap cost or who needs a newer CPU and can stomach the cost of them. Sadly, a combination of cost and my lack of need prevent me from buying them haha.

 

[RolloZ170]

checked the ES with production stepping D0...
QWAT becomes cheap.
edit: try make offer $160usd

Intel Xeon Platinum 8368 ES QWAT 2.2GHz 38C/76T 57MB 270W LGA4189 CPU Processor | eBay

L3 cache 57MB. Thermal design power consumption (TDP) 270W. Our CPUs have been tested to ensure that Its work properly. The CPU is 2.4GHz. 64-bit processor support. CPU series Core i5 8 generation series.

www.ebay.com

runs fine with latest BIOS...

 

[jolness]

checked the ES with production stepping D0...
QWAT becomes cheap.

Intel Xeon Platinum 8368 ES QWAT 2.2GHz 38C/76T 57MB 270W LGA4189 CPU Processor | eBay

L3 cache 57MB. Thermal design power consumption (TDP) 270W. Our CPUs have been tested to ensure that Its work properly. The CPU is 2.4GHz. 64-bit processor support. CPU series Core i5 8 generation series.

www.ebay.com

Wow that is super cheap for a 38C CPU like that. From a quick look I see a D1 and D2 stepping after. Curious what changes there are and if they matter to me. That's pretty tempting

 

[RolloZ170]

From a quick look I see a D1 and D2 stepping after

D0/D1/D2 = same cpuid ( same microcode )
606A6 - Ice Lake-SP M0/M1 D0/D1/D2 (LGA4189)

 

[Bjorn Smith]

Single pcie slot that seems silly

 

[RolloZ170]

Single pcie slot that seems silly

• 1 PCIe 4.0 x16,
• 2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe x8 Internal Port(s)
• M.2 Interface: 2x SATA/PCIe 3.0 x4
• M.2 Form Factor: 2280/22110
• M.2 Key: M-Key

 

[Auggie]

Single pcie slot with only GigE ports and no on-board SAS controller, that seems silly.

 

[Jorge Perez]

Yup, thats what felt off for me.

 

[RolloZ170]

Single pcie slot with only GigE ports and no on-board SAS controller, that seems silly.

silly is if you buy this board if you need 10G and onboard SAS.

 

[Cruzader]

If only this deal was on ebay.

Tens of dollars to split the x16 to x8/x8 or just connect 2nd card onto a x8 port meant for nvme.

 

[Bert]

checked the ES with production stepping D0...
QWAT becomes cheap.
edit: try make offer $160usd

Intel Xeon Platinum 8368 ES QWAT 2.2GHz 38C/76T 57MB 270W LGA4189 CPU Processor | eBay

L3 cache 57MB. Thermal design power consumption (TDP) 270W. Our CPUs have been tested to ensure that Its work properly. The CPU is 2.4GHz. 64-bit processor support. CPU series Core i5 8 generation series.

www.ebay.com

Would this cpu/chip work for any supermicro X12 series motherboard? this is crazy price.

 

[DanP]

yeah that is a really WTF, bought a ton of crap off woot over the years but something like this is new to me

 

[RolloZ170]

Would this cpu/chip work for any supermicro X12 series motherboard? this is crazy price.

yes. tested QWAS/QWAQ(same stepping D0 than QWAT) on X12SPM BIOS 1.4

 

[Bert]

I feel STH effect is coming this way

 

[Cruzader]

Would this cpu/chip work for any supermicro X12 series motherboard? this is crazy price.

Its a ES chip, you are not guaranteed that all cores are stable, all functionality available, getting the clockrates it normaly has etc

They are always cheap if you are ok with going that route.

 

[RolloZ170]

Its a ES chip, you are not guaranteed that all cores are stable, all functionality available, getting the clockrates it normaly has etc

Spoiler

realy ? one hour cbr23 and prime95 with no issues.

maybe ES is not ES. there are good and bad ones, early and pre final.
Intel gives ES to motherboard engineers to buil mobo not to annoy them.
QWAT is ES2 cpuid 606A6 - shares microcode with ALL production Ice Lake
lower clock rates is well known at ES, intel don't want to compete to itself.

 

[Cruzader]

maybe ES is not ES. there are good and bad ones, early and pre final.
Intel gives ES to motherboard engineers to buil mobo not to annoy them.

Yeah they get loads of them and each tray tend to be marked with what those chips can be used to test.
ES is the units made during development/engineering of both board and the cpus.

So you dont know what stage of the chip you get or if it was made to test a specific thing.
Or if some functionality was just disabled on that batch as not working.

As revisions are done from the early ES chips they will make a QS that is the proposed design, then those go out for final testing.
The QS chips are usualy very close to (if not same as) the final design going out.

 

[RolloZ170]

ES is the units made during development/engineering of both board and the cpus.

very early never leeve intel labs. intel makes motherboards but do not sale them anymore.

So you dont know what stage of the chip you get or if it was made to test a specific thing.

sure we know, ES0,ES1,ES2. cpuid - it is easy.

As revisions are done from the early ES chips they will make a QS that is the proposed design, then those go out for final testing.

a ES which shares microcode with all production processors can not be much buggy at all.

The QS chips are usualy very close to (if not same as) the final design going out.

same as(intel not AMD) only difference is the ES bit is set in the cpuid registers.