Suggestions for best 1080 TI for ML

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  1. T_Minus

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    IT's been a few months, ok maybe a year since I've looked into this, and discussed with @Patrick briefly based on his frontpage articles...

    I currently have an EVGA Founders card, and want to purchase a couple more 1080 TI for ML.

    These are going in SUperMicro 4U chassis, so 'top power' is acceptable.

    Should I stick with Founders Edition cards for the improved blower\configuration?

    Any specific Brand to avoid?

    I'm planning on running 2 cards per-chassis total, so would a 3-fan version work too or smart to avoid these in sealed\one way air server chassis? I never considered them before, but maybe they're OK ?

    If anyone has any they're selling\trading too feel free to message me.

    Thanks
     
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    Which chassis are you using? How many per?
     
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    I'll have to digup the part #... it's SuperMicro 4U \ similar to CSE-743TQ but with GPU power.

    Only want to run 2x GPU in the chassis.

     
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    Probably a version of the 745 chassis :D

    I would use the founders edition or other cards where the heatsink fins are aligned with the airflow so that the chassis AND the gpu fans can provide cooling.
     
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    As far as I'm aware the Founders cards should be physically identical, and will perform very close to each other.

    I have MSI, EVGA, Gigabyte etc. and there's absolutely no way I've found to tell them apart except for the serial numbers.
    There might be a way using GPU-Z, or some sort of Vendor ID codes, but I haven't worked that out yet.

    I've run up to 7 x next to each other in a Rosewill 4U chassis with good cooling in a data center with low ambient temps and they worked fine and stayed at decent temps even working hard :D
     
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    Awesome! Good to know.

    I have one of those chassis too may have to use it ;) These GPU chassis are hard to come by used :D for a deal.
     
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    Buying a ton of 1080ti's, I found the EVGA cards to be slightly better than other brands. I particularly like their water cooled cards, but I doubt those will play well with your rackmount chassis.

    For your application, blower fans are a big plus over triple fan arrangements.
     
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  8. zer0sum

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    I'm actually thinking of selling 6 of mine if anyone's interested :D

    I'd consider swaps for larger NVME or SSD drives, or 16G/32G DDR3/4 ram sticks, because I need some of those for my lab systems.

    I'll put up a for sale post soon
     
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    I may be interested in one.
     
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    PM me when you're ready, I may have RAM and Large NVME :D available :D
     
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    Why not 2080ti? They have much improved machine learning capabilities over the 10xx series
     
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  13. funkywizard

    funkywizard mmm.... bandwidth.

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    For 2080ti, blower fan models are few and far between, and the cost is dramatically higher. A used 1080ti is around $550, even for closed loop water cooled ones, which are nice as they're super easy to keep cool.

    But yes, the tensor cores are a big improvement, so if cost and cooling are not major concerns, the 2080ti is the better card.
     
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    This.

    In addition there’s a lot of speculation they will drop price a good bit here soon. I’ve seen them already drop in the last week on some sales.
     
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    I would have liked to get 1080ti's as they are in my budget and I don't need the absolute fastest. But the problem is the RAM. The 2080ti's can work with fp16 effectively doubling to 22gb RAM. That's the bigger bottleneck.

    I hope you're right @T_Minus, they are expensive

    fwiw I am looking at Zotac blowers since they will be packed in 4U case
    Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Blower Video Card (ZT-T20810A-10P) - PCPartPicker
     
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    I was able to get antoher 1080 TI Founders, and almost another for $400!! Those Super releases helped drop price at least some :)
    Thanks to @Patrick and @William article here I also ordered a 2060 Super :) to try out.

    The next couple months we'll see how they all work :)
     
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