The C2558 for 1GbE serves most well.Thanks, Patrick.
Between the C2558 and C2758, you think I'm fine with the C2558?
The C2558 for 1GbE serves most well.Thanks, Patrick.
Between the C2558 and C2758, you think I'm fine with the C2558?
Thanks.The C2558 for 1GbE serves most well.
I'm amazed that so many people are advising buying into a relatively obsolete and overpriced solution like the 2558. I've got an avoton, it's worked well for me over the years, but there's no way I'd buy a new one today without some really specialized requirements you don't have. For 150mbps home internet I'd look at an APU2 for a small all in one solution, or a kaby lake Celeron or i3 for a build it yourself.Thanks.
And compared to a i3-7700 build, do you think the C2558 comes out on top, other than the IPMI?
I like the IPMI feature, as well, but I want to know if there's more about the C2558 that makes it the winner compared to the i3.
I think I've got it narrowed down to these two finally, thanks to all of you at this forum.
This is the most promising mitx board I've seen, but I haven't tried it: ASRock > H270M-ITX/ac Has m.2 (sata or nvme), pcie3 x16 slot, i219 + i211 nics, and 6x sata3 for about $100.This makes sense. Plus, once I added up all the parts for the C2558, it was quite expensive.
I think I want to do an i3 pfSense build, starting with the i3-7700 I was looking at.
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Can someone please make recommendations for a good mITX motherboard to support this that either has integrated Intel gigabit lan, or has the right PCIe slot(s) to accommodate a quad port Intel NIC? I think I'd like to be a leader to put in a m.2 as well or something to that effect.
Thank you, once again.
Because power consumption. That's what OP was asking for. The C2550 will cost around $250 which can definitely be more expensive but only if you go desktop grade hardware for a C/P/i3 build. Personally I'd still want ECC RAM and IPMI so it's going to cost the same in the end. The C2550 will idle about 10w lower than a C/P/i3 build and about 30w lower at capacity.I'm amazed that so many people are advising buying into a relatively obsolete and overpriced solution like the 2558. I've got an avoton, it's worked well for me over the years, but there's no way I'd buy a new one today without some really specialized requirements you don't have. For 150mbps home internet I'd look at an APU2 for a small all in one solution, or a kaby lake Celeron or i3 for a build it yourself.
ECC. For a firewall. On a home network. All I can say is, "isn't it great that everyone can make their own choices". I guess if your requirement is "ECC and exactly X watts" then you'd be in that narrow set of requirements that justifies buying into rangely at this late date. If low power consumption were the primary requirement for a network at this scale, I'd be looking at an APU2--which draws less than the c2558 and a much lower price point. But kaby lake has pretty low power consumption at idle, and I don't think you're really using that much more (in the context of a single residential device) going with that--especially since the other listed requirement was enough horsepower to do whatever now and in the future. If you actually start pushing up the power consumption on the kaby lake it's because you're doing computation at a level that the c2558 couldn't do in the first place. Apart from that, the newer platform has pcie v3 instead of v2, has m2 for nvme ssd, has 6 sata3 instead of 2 sata3, etc. If that all cost more I'd say skip it because it's uneccessary for a firewall--but to get so much functionality which could give the box significantly more utility and a longer life going forward and to pay less? Seems like a better choice.Because power consumption. That's what OP was asking for. The C2550 will cost around $250 which can definitely be more expensive but only if you go desktop grade hardware for a C/P/i3 build. Personally I'd still want ECC RAM and IPMI so it's going to cost the same in the end. The C2550 will idle about 10w lower than a C/P/i3 build and about 30w lower at capacity.
I definitely wouldn't call the 2550/2558 overpriced or obsolete when it's still quite capable and barely sips any power.
Yeah. Having non-garbage RAM is important to me. All the real low wattage 6th and 7th gen CPUs are either much more expensive than Avoton, don't perform as well or consume 3x+ more power. Every APU2 + pfSense search result yields nothing but people complaining about performance and configuration issues.ECC. For a firewall. On a home network. All I can say is, "isn't it great that everyone can make their own choices". I guess if your requirement is "ECC and exactly X watts" then you'd be in that narrow set of requirements that justifies buying into rangely at this late date. If low power consumption were the primary requirement for a network at this scale, I'd be looking at an APU2--which draws less than the c2558 and a much lower price point. But kaby lake has pretty low power consumption at idle, and I don't think you're really using that much more (in the context of a single residential device) going with that--especially since the other listed requirement was enough horsepower to do whatever now and in the future. If you actually start pushing up the power consumption on the kaby lake it's because you're doing computation at a level that the c2558 couldn't do in the first place. Apart from that, the newer platform has pcie v3 instead of v2, has m2 for nvme ssd, has 6 sata3 instead of 2 sata3, etc. If that all cost more I'd say skip it because it's uneccessary for a firewall--but to get so much functionality which could give the box significantly more utility and a longer life going forward and to pay less? Seems like a better choice.
Then be happy you get to pay for it. Other people can make perfectly reasonable assessments that the error rates in current memory are low enough that it's a waste of money (even if some guy on the internet will say your memory is garbage). I remember back when it normal for systems to have correctable memory errors scrolling past--and these days I just don't see that anymore.Yeah. Having non-garbage RAM is important to me.
You keep saying 7700 and it is i3-7100. The 7700 is an i7 and cost +$300.Thanks guys. This has been great for giving me ideas.
I'm still leaning towards the i3-7700 self build. It makes the most sense to me, given my needs.
High binned non-ECC memory is the same price as ECC memory... So if you're saying buy non-ECC memory to save money then you're buying low bin value sticks that I wouldn't trust for any job.Then be happy you get to pay for it. Other people can make perfectly reasonable assessments that the error rates in current memory are low enough that it's a waste of money (even if some guy on the internet will say your memory is garbage). I remember back when it normal for systems to have correctable memory errors scrolling past--and these days I just don't see that anymore.
You don't have to keep trying to convince me, I'm sure you have the most reliable home router in the entire world.High binned non-ECC memory is the same price as ECC memory... So if you're saying buy non-ECC memory to save money then you're buying low bin value sticks that I wouldn't trust for any job.
You're the one who said it was a waste of money. It can't be a waste of money if its more reliable and costs the same...You don't have to keep trying to convince me, I'm sure you have the most reliable home router in the entire world.