Uses around 17W+ in idle (there are some laptop reviews of the same chipset) ... aka twice the power draw as the AD650I as its really a desktop AMD 7700 (chiplet) that has been put in a laptop format. It kind of defeat the purpose to buy a ITX with a desktop CPU, ... For laptops they have a use as workstation laptop where you do not care about the battery life but need a mobile workstation with a lot of horsepower.
The problem with erying their boards, is they do not support proper 4x/4x/4x/4x bifurication. So your stuck with 1 or 2 m.2 slots and a X16 PCIe slot (what can be NVME 3 drive).but definitely good place we're in these days (Also, erying has ITX i7 12700H boards check them out as well)
TB4 with 10Gbe adaptor ... Or you take one of the M.2 for 10Gbe ... or you add a 2.5gbe in the empty wifi slot and double link them on your router, gives you a cheap 5gbit solution.Only thing I'd like is if they put in 10gbe instead of the 2.5gbe.
Ordered one, we shall see. Still no shipping confirmation but its been national holiday in China...
Well ... Alder Lake has bifurication, its just only at 8/8 ... so never say never.That's because Intel simply never will put in bifurcation into their consumer hardware.
What this has is a pcie switch.
Alder lake bifurcation is actually done outside the CPU not by itself. It has to be specifically enabled by the board design (using bifurcation chips) x4 is also possible if designed but it's cheaper to use a pcie switch but that would depend on how many upstream lanes they have that determine whether it's any good at total bandwidthWell ... Alder Lake has bifurication, its just only at 8/8 ... so never say never.
Yea, this board had a asm2824 controller for the MXM card 3 m.2 slots.
Does not negate my point, about erying, as these boards simply do not offer the same functionality as this one. Aka, limited to max 3 m.2 slots, as i pointed out.
The only way your getting max 5 m.2 on a board, is buying a AMD ITX board and using a 8/4/4 splitter. And that is the max your getting on anything power efficient (as 4000/5000g only split into 8/4/4). And then your looking at best ~ 18W idle. Ask me how i know Sure, you can go 4/4/4/4 on a desktop, but then your looking at 40W+ idle already.
We are talking about a 7W idle 6 m.2 itx solution, out of the door. That combination is kind of unique.
Nah, don't need an atx power supply, website is confusing. The motherboard has a 4pin header and comes with a 4pin to sata cable to power two drives. That review linked above talks about itDo I understand that page right? You need both a DC 19V input and a ATX power supply to power this if using SATA drives with this?
If I’m using a NAS with more than two 3.5 disks (I’m thinking 4-5), I’d be wondering if i this would be able to power the additional drives (given a powerful enough input power source)Q: What power supply should I use?
A: The motherboard uses a DC adapter (19V); if you are connecting a SATA hard drive, you will need an additional desktop ATX power supply. (The product does not come with a power adapter.)
I think you have multiple issues at the same time.I just got this board to try and set up a low power SSD based NAS. So far I've been pretty disappointed with the idle power consumption I can get from this setup. I am using 32GB of ram, 3X Teamgroup 4TB MP34 NVME, and one 256GB Samsung NVME drive I had leftover from a laptop upgrade for an OS drive.
Idle power consumption with the 3 4TB drives on the back M.2 slots and the 256GB OS drive on the MXM card is about 24W on a fresh install of truenas scale with nothing running.
After seeing this I checked powertop which showed the system not getting lower than a package C state of C3. I then went through testing various hardware configurations while running a live usb of ubuntu and installing powertop and running auto tune. I wasn't able to get lower than C3 in any configuration though. Below you can see my result for ubuntu desktop idle power consumption after running powertop auto tune.
No NVME drives and no MXM card installed - 7.5w
MXM board installed, no drives - 14w
1x 256GB Samsung on back side, no MXM - 9.5w
1x 4TB MP34 on back side, no MXM - 10.5w
2x 4TB MP34 on back side, no MXM - 14w
3x 4TB MP34 on back side, no MXM - 15.5w
3x 4TB MP34 on back side, MXM without drives - 23w
3x 4TB MP34 on back side, MXM with 256GB Samsung - 25.5w
All of these measurements were just taken by waiting for a low idle value to stabilize on the ubuntu desktop while visually reading the power draw from a P3 kill a watt meter so take them for what they are.
Even a basic ITX build does better then that. I ran a Gigabyte B550 + 4650G, with bifurcation (5 NVME slots) and that was down to 18~20W (3 NVME + 3 HDD sleep).If anyone has any ideas to get improved package C state performance or lower idle power consumption please let me know. I was really hoping I would end up with a decently powerful NAS with idle power consumption at least in the low teens of watts or less. I'm kind of wishing I had gone with one of the N5105 based solutions even though it would be less powerful.