Help me find ITX Board Intel or AMD.... :D

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  1. T_Minus

    T_Minus Moderator

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    Trying to find ITX Motherboards with these requirements, higher priority lower #\more toward top of list.

    1. ITX Size
    2. Intel XEON V3 or XEON V2
    3. Allows full-size DIMMs (2 or 4 would be fine)
    4. 4-6 SATA3\6Gb\s
    5. IPMI
    6. Intel NIC(s)
    Not interested in E5 ITX, the idea is low power, and tiny.

    I'm 100% new again to AMD, building two this weekend the first time in nearly 20 years and I haven't looked into their lower\smaller stuff... possibly an ITX option for AMD ??? I'm not sure how the software (pfsense, proxmox, freenas) work with AMD though?
     
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  3. Marsh

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    Reasonable price ITX Intel xeon v3 or I5 v3 boards became unicorn, rare item.

    My goto ITX Intel xeon or I5 v3 board is Tyan s5533gm2nr-le
    https://www.tyan.com/Motherboards_S5533_S5533GM2NR-LE
    6 x SATA ports , full IPMI , no M2 support , no 10gbe
    Pair the board with Lian Li Q25 type of small chassis, it is just perfect.
    I brought 8 boards at $50 each few years ago, 1 board died prematurely , the other 7 are working as low power NAS server quiet well.

    Since finding any recent ITX board at reason price is very difficult.
    I switch to buying Shuttle bardbone
    Shuttle XPC Cube SZ270R8, Intel Kabylake/Skylake Z270 LGA1151 i3/i5/i7/Pentium, Triple Display Output, PCI-E x16, PCI-e x4
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075BCJHVR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    Pro
    4 drives bays
    Dual M2 slots
    Dual Intel network
    1 pcie x16
    1 pcie x4
    Small footprint
    easy to build out, just add CPU , ram , disks
    4 x ram slots

    Con:
    No 10gbe build-in

    I brought 6 units from Amazon at $184 each , it will be my next generation of small low power NAS home server.
    Amazon does not have stock now, check back later.
    They will re-stock again based on my experience last 6 months.
     
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  4. Markess

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    Do you need ECC?

    Some vendors, Supermicro and Asrock come to mind maybe others, added Xeon E3 support to their Haswell boards for Core processors (Q87, H97, etc.) but none had ECC support or IPMI. If you didn't need ECC though, that would at least expand the pool of candidates.

    I've got a couple such boards myself, but my specific model (Asrock Industrial IMB-181L) probably wouldn't do for your needs, as it only checks off 1,2,4 & 6.
     
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  5. T_Minus

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    Looks nearly perfect.
    Any idea on longevity? Can I get 2-3 years more?
    edit: doesn't really matter, no one sales these, ebay $500, ha.
     
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    Would prefer ECC, but I'd take one to try non-ecc :)
     
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    That shuttle looks nice! I'll have to snag one when they go down on price and experiment thanks!
     
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  8. Marsh

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    Power consumption:
    Shuttle sz270R8 , I7-6700 , 2 x 16gb ram , 2 x M2 nvme SSD , no HD , Win10 idle between 16w to 18w

    My Plex / Emby LXC play / testing server
    Shuttle SH110R4 , I3-6100T , 2 x 16 gb ram , M2 nvme boot disk ,2 x 4TB sata disk
    Proxmox with Plex container, idle at 20w with hard disk spinning
    Transcoding using iGPU, brings power to 40w-45w .
    Plex / Emby LXC serving direct stream to client runs about 20-25w
    I am very surprise with how little this server sipping power.
     
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  9. zer0sum

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    I can 2nd the AsRock Rack E3C224D2I recommendation.
    I'm using it as an ESXi host running firewall/honeypot/sandbox vm's, and it's been flawless so far for me.
    I wish it would take a bit more ram though :(

    1. Mini ITX 6.7" x 6.7"
    2. Single socket H3 (LGA 1150)
    3. Supports New 4th and 5th Generation Intel XeonE3-1200 v3/ Coreā„¢ i3/Pentium/Celeron Processors (Socket 1150)
    4. 2 x DIMM DDR3 1600/1333, Max. 16GB
    5. 1 x PCIe 3.0 x16
    6. 4 x SATA3, 2 SATA2 by Intel C224 support RAID 0,1,5,10
    7. 2 x Intel i210, support Dual GLAN with teaming function
    8. ASPEED 2300 for BMC controller, Realtek RTL8211E for dedicated IPMI GLAN
    9. 4 x USB 3.0 ports (2 rear + 2 via header )
    10. 5 x USB 2.0 ports (2 rear + 2 via header + 1 Type A)
     
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    Would an E3c236d2i work? I have one sitting here in the box. While not an v3 it may be a more viable option.
     
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    I lookup Asrock E3c236d2i CPU support list, board support E3 , I3 , Celeron , Pentium CPU
    no mention of I5 CPU .support

    Is it true that the board does not support I5?
    Just curious.
     
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    Disclaimer: I don't have this board, so this is purely anecdotal based on my experience with Supermicro and other ASrock products.

    Normally at the cheaper end of the spectrum, where I reside most of the time ;), the C2xx chipsets only supported CPUs compatible with ECC memory. So, for a long time, you could use an i3, Pentium or Celeron (that could do ECC) in place of an E3. But, you couldn't use i5 or i7, which cant use ECC. Not sure about current generation, but it still held true for Sky/Kaby Lake (v5/v6).

    There were a few generations, like Ivy Bridge, that Intel "withdrew official" ECC support for the low end consumer chips, But they still worked and Supermicro and ASRock both kept them on their CPU support lists because of it....and lots of folks used them, with and without ECC, just fine.

    The odd thing is, you could still use non-Ecc memory with a lot of these motherboards, including it seems the E3c236d2i, but you still had to use a CPU that had ECC-compatability.
     
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  13. T_Minus

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    I don't have any of those CPUs or RAM, so while it would work it would cost me a boatload to switch sadly :(

    This may be the route in the future though.

    Shoot me a PM with price or trade interest.
     
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