Gigabit + 10Gb Switches under $550

[Thomas H]

realized I never posted this here

brocade ICX6450 - $100 on ebay

• 24/48 1gbE copper (PoE available)
• 4x 10gbE SFP+ (also work great with $50 Mikrotik S+RJ10 SFP+ modules for 10gbE over copper as well)
• full layer 3, IPV4 + IPV6 routing, VRRP, OSPF, everything you'd expect on an enterprise switch
• 22w power draw with a couple ports active
• 1 small fan, nearly silent

brocade ICX6610 ~$250 on ebay (sometimes much less with the best offer feature)

• 24/48 1gbE copper (PoE available)
• 16x 10gbE SFP+ (also work great with $50 Mikrotik S+RJ10 SFP+ modules for 10gbE over copper as well)
• 2x 40gbE
• full layer 3, IPV4 + IPV6 routing, VRRP, OSPF, BGP, VRFs, tunnels, everything
• 100w power draw with a couple ports active
• audible - about the same as an R710, little quieter than LB6M

The 10gbE ports require a license to unlock, but licenses are free for *existing* STH members (have some left over from work)

I have been eyeing for a 10GbE (and possibly 40GbE) setup for awhile. This will be for a homelab running Proxmox, pfSense, ZFS NAS, etc. and PoE ports for IP cameras and WAP. Read through most of this thread and followed your thread on Brocade ICX 6450/6610.

How would you compare used enterprise grade Brocades versus budget TP-Link T1700G-28TQ, Netgear GC728X, CRS-328-24P-4S+RM?

 

[fohdeesha]

How would you compare used enterprise grade Brocades versus budget TP-Link T1700G-28TQ, Netgear GC728X, CRS-328-24P-4S+RM?

See my post here for my general take - https://forums.servethehome.com/ind...icx6450-icx6610-etc.21107/page-15#post-198783

tldr - it's easy to forget because of how cheap they've gotten on ebay, but it's an entirely different league of product. It's kind like comparing a ferrari with a couple hundred miles on it to a new prius. If you HAVE to buy new for corporate/purchase order/etc reasons then go with the prius, but otherwise you can get something with an order of magnitude more engineering & design put into it, remember that those ICX switches were $3000 and $5000 new just a couple years ago, there's not really a comparison to be made to a little tp-link or netgear

 

[Stereodude]

I'm looking forward to the forthcoming Mikrotik CRS309-1G-8S+PC (8x SFP+ / 1x Gigabit Ethernet) and the CRS312-4C+8XG (8x 10G/5G/2.5G/1G Ethernet ports / 4x 10G Ethernet / 10G SFP+ combo ports).

 

[thedotlair]

Does anybody know of any "el-cheapo" SPF+ to RJ45 10gb GBICs? Been looking around to connect a 10gb RJ45 device to a Dell PowerConnect 7024P with the 10gb module in but everywhere I look I can't get a definitive answer if they'll work.

Edit:
Closest I've found:
Dell compatible -- SFP+ Copper SFP-10G-T 10G Base-T RJ45 | eBay
10G-T Copper SFP-10G-T 10G Base-T RJ45 ( Intel, Cisco, Dell, Fortinet undsw) | eBay
GP-10GSFP-T DELL Compatible 10GBASE-T SFP+ Copper RJ-45 30m Transceiver | eBay
Dell PGYJT SFP-10G-T 10G Copper SFP+ Base-T RJ45 Transceiver Module PGYJT 617949906715 | eBay

Not sure if Dell vendor lock their GBICs etc.

 

[fohdeesha]

the cheapest is the Mikrotik S+RJ10, everyone here that I know of has had good luck with it, including on dell switches

MikroTik S+RJ10 - SFP+ RJ45 10Gbps Copper Module

there's a thread about them on the forum here somewhere

 

[thedotlair]

the cheapest is the Mikrotik S+RJ10, everyone here that I know of has had good luck with it, including on dell switches

MikroTik S+RJ10 - SFP+ RJ45 10Gbps Copper Module

there's a thread about them on the forum here somewhere

Perfect, thank you! For the price of a couple of them, gives me a single Dell compatible from FS.com As always, servethehome delivers

 

[Evan]

About 500 posts later and rather an amount of time it’s still surprising there is still not any good fanless L3 switches with more than a couple of 10G ports.
I guess the power consumption for 10G really isn’t coming down, nobody is using the newer fan processes either as they are constrained for capacity... one day we can hope.

 

[Craash]

Thanks to this thread and @BLinux , I've had my pair of T1700G-28TQ's since May 1 of 2017 (got in just under $300). I have all eight SFP+ in use (one each switch to bridge, so 6 clients). I know some have had issues with memory load, but I've been most happy with mine. Performance is rock solid and no noise at all.

Actually, made me curious so I had to go check out the uptime. 126 day - 21 hour - 42 min - 19 sec. (firmware 2.0.1 Build 20171218 Rel.64382(Beta)) I know the last power off time was a several hour power loss in the neighborhood that outlasted my battery back up.

Do I hope for a better solution down the road? Sure. Would I buy these switches again? In a second.

 

[Takrbark3]

Hi!

-HP 5406zl: (modular, L3+)
-CISCO 4948E-F: (48xgigabit , 4xSFP+, 2xPSU, L3++ )
-CISCO Nexus 3k series
-Alcatel-Lucent 6850: ( 24/48 port gigabit + 2XFP )
-TP-LINK: never again :)
-Mikrotik: Not bad, but basic features missing ( Port Security; DHCP Snooping; IP Source Guard)

So I would go some enterprise switches - if you need POE/POE+ power, use POE panel with separate PSU, example:

 https://www.cyberteam.pl/produkt/3920_adapter-poe-24p-rack-19-gigabit-adag-24p-1u-v2

 

[Craash]

And were can we get these for under $550 (other than an outlier here or there)?

Hi!

-HP 5406zl: (modular, L3+)
-CISCO 4948E-F: (48xgigabit , 4xSFP+, 2xPSU, L3++ )
-CISCO Nexus 3k series
-Alcatel-Lucent 6850: ( 24/48 port gigabit + 2XFP )
-TP-LINK: never again :)
-Mikrotik: Not bad, but basic features missing ( Port Security; DHCP Snooping; IP Source Guard)

So I would go some enterprise switches - if you need POE/POE+ power, use POE panel with separate PSU, example:

 https://www.cyberteam.pl/produkt/3920_adapter-poe-24p-rack-19-gigabit-adag-24p-1u-v2

 

[Takrbark3]

And were can we get these for under $550 (other than an outlier here or there)?

Ebay - refurbished.
Those are "old" enterprise switches with mature software (CISCO/HP/Alcatel).

 

[Craash]

I suppose I spoke a bit soon. But, I'll still stick with my silent T1700G-28TQ for my home lab.

 

[Nom]

I haven't used one, but QNap now have a passive 10Gb switch with Copper and SFP+ ports - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07CRTJ223/ - unmanaged.

 

[SGN]

Have you seen this new 48x1Gb +4xSFP+ FANLESS managed switch from fs.com for 400$?
S3900-24F4S 24-Port Gigabit Stackable SFP Managed Switch with 4 Combo SFP and 4 10GE SFP+ Uplinks, 4-Year Warranty | FS.COM
Sounds nice. There is also 24p version with 4 SFP+ below 300 bucks!

Anyone used fs.com switches? How about managment and stability?

 

[Dev_Mgr]

This isn't new as such, but I picked up a Force10 S4810 from Ebay on auction for less than $350 (buy-it-now typically is around US$ 600).

On top of that, I got lucky and it even came with 40 SFP+ transceivers.

It's nowhere near silent, but where I plan to put it, the noise factor doesn't impact me much.

 

[fohdeesha]

these lowkey FS sales rep accounts pretending to be real people are making sure I never order from them again

 

[Patrick]

these lowkey FS sales rep accounts pretending to be real people are making sure I never order from them again

Banned 6-7 accounts for them today and removed all of their posts.

 

[Occamsrazor]

these lowkey FS sales rep accounts pretending to be real people are making sure I never order from them again

Likewise. I was actually considering them until I saw all the fake "real user" posts made. I certainly wouldn't buy from such a company.

 

[koisama]

I wonder if there exists another switch like the well known Brocade ICX6610, something with every possible option - 1G copper, 10G SFP+, and 40G QSFP+ in one device, and reasonably priced.

Juniper EX4300 comes close, but it's twice as expensive, has less SFP+ and they require a fairly expensive extension card.

 

[redeamon]

Hey folks,

Check out -> MikroTik CRS305-1G-4S+IN | CRS | Mikrotik | EuroDK

I see some references to this switch in this thread when it was much more expensive... but at $117 that's a hard price to beat for a silent home-lab switch. Anyone have any experience with it?