Different E5-2600 v1 CPUs on the same dual Xeon motherboard?

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  1. Bill1950

    Bill1950 Member

    Aug 12, 2016
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    Is it possible to run two different E5-2600 family CPUs on the same C602 chipset motherboard? For example, would it be possible to run an E5-2670 in CPU1 and an E5-2780 in CPU2? Same memory for both CPUs.
  2. nk215

    nk215 Active Member

    Oct 6, 2015
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    Back in the old 5500 series processors, Intel was a lot more specific when it comes to running two different CPUs. In the end, don't try it since Intel only validate very similar CPUs on dual CPU configuration.

    Here's the exact quote:
    While Intel does nothing to prevent processors from operating together, some
    combinations] may not be supported due to limited validation, which may result in
    uncharacterized errata. Coupling this fact with the large number of Intel Xeon
    processor 5500 series attributes, the following population rules and stepping matrix
    have been developed to clearly define supported configurations.

    1. Processors must be of the same power—optimization segment. This insures
    processors include the same maximum Intel QuickPath Interconnect and DDR3
    operating speeds and cache sizes.

    2. Processors must operate at the same core frequency. Note, processors within the
    same power-optimization segment supporting different maximum core frequencies
    (for example, a 2.93 GHZ / 95 W and 2.66 GHZ/ 95 W) can be operated within a
    system. However, both must operate at the highest frequency rating commonly
    supported. Mixing components operating at different internal clock frequencies is
    not supported and will not be validated by Intel.

    3. Processors must share symmetry across physical packages with respect to the
    number of logical processors per package, number of cores per package {but not
    necessarily the same subset of cores within the packages), number of Intel
    QuickPath Interconnect interfaces, and cache topology.

    4. Mixing dissimilar steppings is only supported with processors that have identical
    Extended Family, Extended Model, Processor Type, Family Code and Model Number
    as indicated by the function 1 of the CPUID instruction. Mixing processors of
    different steppings but the same model (as per CPUID instruction) is supported.
    Details regarding the CPUID instruction are provided in the AP—485,
    Intei® Processor Identi?cation and the CPUID Instruction application note and the
    Intei® 64 and I/4-32 Architectures Software Developers Manual, Volume 2A.

    5. After AND’ing the feature flag and extended feature flags from the installed
    processors, any processor whose set of feature flags exactly matches the AND'ed
    feature flags can be selected by the BIOS as the BSP. If no processor exactly
    matches the AND’ed feature flag values, then the processor with the numerically
    lower CPUID should be selected as the BSP.

    6. Intel requires that the proper microcode update be loaded on each processor
    operating within the system. Any processor that does not have the proper
    microcode update loaded is considered by Intel to be operating out of specification

    7. Customers are fully responsible for the validation of their system configuration.

    When it comes to E5-2600, Intel speaks in more general terms:
    Intel supports and validates two and four-processor configurations only in which all
    processors operate with the same Intel® Quick-(Path Interconnect frequency, core
    frequency, power segment, and have the same internal cache sizes. Mixing
    components operating at different internal clock frequencies is not supported and
    will not be validated by Intel. Combining processors from different power segments
    is also not supported.

    Processors within a system must operate at the same frequency per bits [15:81 of the
    FLEX_RATIO MSR (Address: 194h); however, this does not apply to frequency
    transitions initiated due to thermal events, Extended HALT, Enhanced Intel SpeedStep
    Technology transitions signal. Please refer to the Intei® Xeon Processor E5 v2
    Product Family Processor Datasheet, Volume Two: Registers for details on the
    FLEX_RATIO MSR and setting the processor core frequency.

    Not all operating systems can support dual processors with mixed frequencies. Mixing
    processors of different steppings but the same model (as per CPUID instruction) is
    supported provided there is no more than one stepping delta between the processors,
    for example, S and 5+1.

    S and S+1 is defined as mixing of two CPU steppings in the same platform where one
    CPU is S (stepping) = CPUID.(EAX=01h):EAX[3:0], and the other is S+1 =
    CPUID.(EAX=01h):EAX[3:0]+1. The stepping ID is found in EAX[3:0] after executing
    the CPUID instruction with Function 01h.

    Details regarding the CPUID instruction are provided in the AP-485, Intel® Processor
    Identification and the CPUID Instruction application note, also refer to the Intel®
    Xeon® Processor E5 V2 Product Family Speci?cation Update.
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