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Kubiekdriehoekje said:
I am going to be designing and printing my casing for 2x 3.5" HDD's and a 120mm fan, to do just that.
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That would be awesome, I imagine. Though 120mm fan perhaps an overkill, but I find the idea very interesting.

Does your casing design allow mounting-on-the-device as well? Or you plan the rig to just sit on the table / shelf? In my case, I plan to mount the device on a wall.

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The cables do not allow you to hang a 2.5" ssd from them; the boardside connector is way to fragile as is the cable if you ask me...
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That was a figure of speech, of course. I am trying to avoid exactly that :)
 
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Ordered directly from CWWK's website on the 19th, delivered today (30th) in the UK.

F2Speed(??) M.2, and single Indilinx 32G SODIMM which I'm a bit disappointed that it's not 2x16's. Is there a list of known compatible memory? I know Samsung is recommended but seems hard to come by from a quick search of my usual online stores.
 

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For me, I would totally want dual-rank memory (and then two modules for dual-channel on top of that). This is why I like the G.Skill Ripjaws SKHynix kits I mentioned earlier. Is this memory they are populating dual-rank?
 
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fway said:
For me, I would totally want dual-rank memory (and then two modules for dual-channel on top of that). This is why I like the G.Skill Ripjaws SKHynix kits I mentioned earlier. Is this memory they are populating dual-rank?
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I don't think so.

I'll take a look for some G.Skill stuff.
 
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I'm using this RAM kit:

TEAMGROUP Elite DDR4 32GB Kit (2 x 16GB) 3200MHz PC4-25600 CL22 Unbuffered Non-ECC 1.2V SODIMM 260-Pin Laptop Notebook PC Computer Memory Module Ram Upgrade - TED432G3200C22DC-S01.
 
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fway said:
CWWK i3-1215U on sale at Amazon now (5% coupon): $350.97 USD (barebones)
CWWK i5-1235U on sale at Amazon now (5% coupon): $444.31 USD (barebones)
CWWK i7-1265U on sale at Amazon now (5% coupon): $590.14 USD (barebones)
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It looks like it's even cheaper on the cwwk website. It also doesn't seem to charge sales tax when bought from there. Ends up being $434.81 for the i5 in total.

Of course you lose out on using Amazon's refund policies, which is probably worth something.
Amazon link for anyone who's interested. I hadn't realized this was sold on Amazon, and between CWWK website and Amazon, not sure I'd buy from AliExpress if you're located in the US.
 
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MichaelW said:
Ordered directly from CWWK's website on the 19th, delivered today (30th) in the UK.

F2Speed(??) M.2, and single Indilinx 32G SODIMM which I'm a bit disappointed that it's not 2x16's. Is there a list of known compatible memory? I know Samsung is recommended but seems hard to come by from a quick search of my usual online stores.
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the brand of the ssd manufacturer is faspeed.
you can find their ssds on aliexpress.
 
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I installed the unlocked BIOS, and installed Proxmox today. I haven't tweaked any of the settings yet, but thought I'd run a quick passmark test... erm, I appear to have an i5-1240P!

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12th Gen Intel Core i5-1240P (x86_64)
12 cores @ 4400 MHz  |  31.1 GiB RAM
Number of Processes: 16  |  Test Iterations: 1  |  Test Duration: Medium
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CPU Mark:                          14050
  Integer Math                     74295 Million Operations/s
  Floating Point Math              47130 Million Operations/s
  Prime Numbers                    27.4 Million Primes/s
  Sorting                          18771 Thousand Strings/s
  Encryption                       10415 MB/s
  Compression                      150099 KB/s
  CPU Single Threaded              3647 Million Operations/s
  Physics                          562 Frames/s
  Extended Instructions (SSE)      7607 Million Matrices/s

Memory Mark:                       2523
  Database Operations              4488 Thousand Operations/s
  Memory Read Cached               32241 MB/s
  Memory Read Uncached             14193 MB/s
  Memory Write                     8387 MB/s
  Available RAM                    28151 Megabytes
  Memory Latency                   46 Nanoseconds
  Memory Threaded                  18821 MB/s
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OK so I've had a bit more time this morning. In the BIOS I've set...

AC Loadline = 100
TDC Current Limit = 680 (ICCMax for the i5-1240P is a bit higher at 85A)
TCC Activation Offset = 20
TCC Offset Time Window = 3 Sec

And then I've used @fta 's script, but set the PL1/PL2 values to 64000000 to match the higher limit for the i5-1240P.

Anything else I should be setting? I've 2x32GB DIMM's of the G.Skill Ripjaw memory mentioned in the thread on the way, and also a 120mm fan to mount on the top. Not sure how well the i5-1240P will cope under load without one! Haven't done any stress testing yet.


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                          PassMark PerformanceTest Linux


12th Gen Intel Core i5-1240P (x86_64)
12 cores @ 4400 MHz  |  31.1 GiB RAM
Number of Processes: 16  |  Test Iterations: 1  |  Test Duration: Medium
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CPU Mark:                          18643
  Integer Math                     74106 Million Operations/s
  Floating Point Math              49874 Million Operations/s
  Prime Numbers                    28.3 Million Primes/s
  Sorting                          27881 Thousand Strings/s
  Encryption                       17985 MB/s
  Compression                      268920 KB/s
  CPU Single Threaded              3646 Million Operations/s
  Physics                          550 Frames/s
  Extended Instructions (SSE)      14062 Million Matrices/s

Memory Mark:                       2556
  Database Operations              5041 Thousand Operations/s
  Memory Read Cached               32846 MB/s
  Memory Read Uncached             14192 MB/s
  Memory Write                     8392 MB/s
  Available RAM                    29914 Megabytes
  Memory Latency                   46 Nanoseconds
  Memory Threaded                  18860 MB/s
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Idle temps, nothing running in Proxmox yet (21 degrees C ambient room temp).

Code: 
nvme-pci-0100
Adapter: PCI adapter
Composite:    +58.9°C  (low  =  -0.1°C, high = +82.8°C)
                       (crit = +83.8°C)
Sensor 1:     +51.9°C  (low  = -273.1°C, high = +65261.8°C)
Sensor 2:     +56.9°C  (low  = -273.1°C, high = +65261.8°C)

acpitz-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
temp1:        +27.8°C  (crit = +105.0°C)

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0:  +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:        +39.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 4:        +42.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 8:        +40.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 12:       +40.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 16:       +40.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 17:       +41.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 18:       +41.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 19:       +41.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 20:       +39.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 21:       +39.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 22:       +39.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 23:       +39.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

nvme-pci-0200
Adapter: PCI adapter
Composite:    +47.9°C  (low  = -273.1°C, high = +82.8°C)
                       (crit = +84.8°C)
 
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MichaelW said:
OK so I've had a bit more time this morning. In the BIOS I've set...

AC Loadline = 100
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I run with it at 180 now. 100 was affecting my single core scores. You might be ok with 100, though. Your single core score looks good.

and also a 120mm fan to mount on the top. Not sure how well the i5-1240P will cope under load without one! Haven't done any stress testing yet.
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Good idea. I don't think you'll be able to take advantage of your good luck (2 extra performance cores!) without the fan. In my testing it looks like the case can dissipate about 47W indefinitely with a 140mm fan on top. Only about 27W with no fan.

One thing I would check is to make sure your CPU is not an engineering sample. It's probably not, but good idea to check when you seem to have a one-off.
 
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Ran a stress test in s-tui, but I didn't see the CPU frequency go above 3200Mhz? It lasted about 90 seconds before it started throttling that frequency down.

edit: running... watch -n1 "grep Hz /proc/cpuinfo" while running stress in another ssh session I did see CPU freq hit ~4200. Never used s-tui before so probably just don't know what I'm doing.
 
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fta said:
I run with it at 180 now. 100 was affecting my single core scores. You might be ok with 100, though. Your single core score looks good.
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I don't really understand what AC Loadline is. Am I safe trying 180 then?

I've noticed looking at my passmark results, the "Prime Numbers" and "Physics" figures seem much lower for mine than other people. Edit: ahh they're both dependent on memory bandwidth apparently, so no doubt affected by the single SODIMM.
 
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Hi! I got the i3 version. It's running Proxmox. So far I have reapplied the thermal paste like Nutella and added a usb pwm 120mm fan. I'm seeing at least 10 deg C lower idle temps (~40 vs ~30) with the fan, before and after thermal paste.

I'd like to ask - anybody have an Aliexpress link for the IDE connector on the motherboard? I'd like to add a second HDD. Thanks in advance.
 
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OK, I have confirmed a full set of BIOS-only settings that do it all with no need for a script to set anything (for us freeBSD/pfSense bare metal people). This is the list, locations, and values that work great on my CWWK i7-1265U box and results in a regular 20,300 CPUMark score for me:

Advanced->Power & Performance->CPU - Power Management Control->CPU VR Settings->Core/IA VR Settings->TDC Current Limit = 640 (Fix the VR TDC Limit problem. The value 640 is 80A)
Advanced->Power & Performance->CPU - Power Management Control->CPU VR Settings->Core/IA VR Settings->AC Loadline = 180 (tried 100 but fta says 180 is better and makes single core scores higher)
Advanced->Power & Performance->CPU - Power Management Control->HwP Lock = Disabled (but not necessary since not changing anything at runtime)
Advanced->Thermal Configuration->CPU Thermal Configuration->Tcc Activation Offset = 15 (100-15 = 85C temp limit for throttling)
Advanced->Thermal Configuration->CPU Thermal Configuration->Tcc Offset Time Window = 3 sec.
Advanced->Thermal Configuration->Intel(R) Dynamic Tuning Technology Configuration->Intel(R) Dynamic Tuning Technology = Enabled
Advanced->Power & Performance->CPU - Power Management Control->Config TDP Configurations->Custom Settings Nominal - Power Limit 1 = 55000, Power Limit 2 = 55000, Power Limit 1 Time Window = 28

Save, exit, reboot and watch it fly. :)

Note: This is with fta's "HwP On" BIOS.

Code: 
PassMark PerformanceTest Linux (Kali 2023.2 LiveBoot USB Stick)


12th Gen Intel Core i7-1265U (x86_64)
10 cores @ 4800 MHz  |  62.5 GiB RAM
Number of Processes: 12  |  Test Iterations: 1  |  Test Duration: Very Long
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CPU Mark:                          20251
  Integer Math                     65588 Million Operations/s
  Floating Point Math              41231 Million Operations/s
  Prime Numbers                    52.3 Million Primes/s
  Sorting                          32743 Thousand Strings/s
  Encryption                       16075 MB/s
  Compression                      235371 KB/s
  CPU Single Threaded              3994 Million Operations/s
  Physics                          1188 Frames/s
  Extended Instructions (SSE)      12154 Million Matrices/s

Memory Mark:                       3287
  Database Operations              6852 Thousand Operations/s
  Memory Read Cached               36059 MB/s
  Memory Read Uncached             22023 MB/s
  Memory Write                     15749 MB/s
  Available RAM                    60229 Megabytes
  Memory Latency                   48 Nanoseconds
  Memory Threaded                  40928 MB/s
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Results submitted: https://www.passmark.com/baselines/V11/display.php?id=503956248207

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                          PassMark PerformanceTest Linux (Linux Mint 21.1 "Vera" Cinnamon/Ubuntu)


12th Gen Intel Core i7-1265U (x86_64)
10 cores @ 4800 MHz  |  62.6 GiB RAM
Number of Processes: 12  |  Test Iterations: 1  |  Test Duration: Very Long
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CPU Mark:                          20291
  Integer Math                     65801 Million Operations/s
  Floating Point Math              41419 Million Operations/s
  Prime Numbers                    50.8 Million Primes/s
  Sorting                          32469 Thousand Strings/s
  Encryption                       16102 MB/s
  Compression                      241696 KB/s
  CPU Single Threaded              3510 Million Operations/s
  Physics                          1250 Frames/s
  Extended Instructions (SSE)      12710 Million Matrices/s

Memory Mark:                       3314
  Database Operations              6640 Thousand Operations/s
  Memory Read Cached               31442 MB/s
  Memory Read Uncached             19808 MB/s
  Memory Write                     15879 MB/s
  Available RAM                    61064 Megabytes
  Memory Latency                   44 Nanoseconds
  Memory Threaded                  42344 MB/s
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Results submitted: https://www.passmark.com/baselines/V11/display.php?id=503956417699
 

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fway said:
OK, I have confirmed a full set of BIOS-only settings that do it all with no need for a script to set anything (for us freeBSD/pfSense bare metal people). This is the list, locations, and values that work great on my CWWK i7-1265U box and results in a regular 20,300 CPUMark score for me:
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Awesome! I added a link to your post to the first post.
 
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