Brocade ICX Series (cheap & powerful 10gbE/40gbE switching)

Discussion in 'Networking' started by fohdeesha, Jul 12, 2018.

  1. fohdeesha

    fohdeesha Kaini Industries

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    I'm going to have a big think about this

    I really don't want to stop helping people out with these because it will screw so many people over but at the same time the fact this keeps happening is mentally exhausting, those who have gotten licenses from me especially know why. I do not hand them out lightly
     
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  2. EngChiSTH

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    There are bad apples (or just stupid people) in any population sample - the engineers are not different. At least you do not have to deal with haters full of jealousy (why he has it and we don't).

    if you have it and able to give freely without any conditions - give freely
    if you have it but the only way it could be shared (liability, etc) is with conditions - share the rules
    if the person does not want to accept the conditions - it is their choice
    if the person someone thinks you are bad, evil ,etc - well , you have no control over it anyway.
     
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  3. Joao Paulo Mello

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    I bought my ICX6610 from an ebay longtime and trusted UK seller. It came all licensed reason why I paid a little more. @fohdeesha if you want I can pm the device info so you can check if the license came from you, but I believe that's not the case.
    Guys, someone has a spare ICX6610 exhaust fan module to sell? The one that came with the switch is fine but better safe than sorry so I want another one. I found some listed on ebay but too expensive for what it is.
    Thanks.
     
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  4. Skippy96

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    does anyone know where to buy blank covers for the power supply or what the part number is?

    thanks
     
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  5. klui

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    I feel these a-holes need to be exposed so everyone here knows who they are or @fohdeesha sends them to the admin so they'd be banned for breaking his conditions. I am surprised there are so many but my guess is it's less than 5 total and it's fewer who just created new accounts to take advantage of fohdeesha's kindness.

    Thank you fohdeesha for sharing your knowledge and genuinely helping others here--again not only with Brocade and Arista switches but in other areas such as the DFI DT122 ITX motherboard in Great Deals.

    Around 10 years ago, when I had no knowledge of networking but a good friend was he said something along the lines of "I would hesitate in building a network using Brocade switches," I didn't know what that meant. Maybe it was with older generations of switches but I feel the ICX 6000 series is very good and cost effective. Without his knowledge I would have kept that soundbite with me. Now I wouldn't hesitate to recommend these products.

    And another antidote I offer to fohdeesha, I hope your attitude don't change when it comes to helping others. My point is about the bigger picture and not the licenses--which only you should decide. I had a good friend, no longer among the living, who was what I consider a UNIX wizard. He would share a lot of information--information that was not publicly available except through reverse engineering and intimate knowledge of the system's history--with the community but when Usenet descended to a SPAM swamp he got discouraged and left altogether. It was sad to see him leave that community but he still shared his knowledge with his smaller circle of friends.
     
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  6. maes

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    Actually, does the ICX6610 use a 'standard' 3-pin fan header? If possible could you take a picture of the board so I have an idea if there are any clearance issues close to the header?

    I'm working on a 'rpm faker' circuit that would go in between a fan header and replacement fan, to mimic the rpm the switch is expecting while still keeping some monitoring of fan activity (mainly, it'd kill the fake rpm signal if the real fan stops spinning)
     
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  7. klui

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    The 6610 fans are mounted in a cage in the back not to the motherboard. The header on the cage has 10 pins, with only 9 connected. https://www.memory4less.com/images/products/img0922a/ICX6610-FAN-E-lg.jpg

    For the rear (E) output fans, they are an OEM-specific version of the Delta FFB0412UHN series but with 4 wires instead of 3. The specific model is FFB0412UHN-BR30 (12V 0.81A).
     
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    Not sure of the compatibility but some of the Dell Silkworm 4100 fan units are fairly inexpensive. For example eBay item# 202090072777
     
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  10. boghea

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    Hello all,

    Can anyone help out by recording and posting a video of ICX 7250 (24 port and/or 48 port) booting and running so I, and possibly many others, can have a sense of the noise?
    I know the fans can be replaced, but I am interested in the stock fan noise.

    I have an ICX 6610-24P and, although it's subjective, for my current home environment it creates "problems" especially since on occasion it ramps up to 100% fan speed.

    It would also be great if the same person can also record an ICX 6610 booting and running, with the same phone/video camera at the same recording distance.

    Thank you
     
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    Tip for anyone who intends to do this - you'll want to disable the microphone AGC and manually keep it at the same setting for both recordings. Otherwise overall volume will be identical...
     
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  12. boghea

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    Thank you for your idea. It's definitely something to have disabled.
     
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    If anyone is still looking for rack ears, I do have a water jet cutter and sheet metal brake. If someone feels like modeling them up in Fusion360, I can make a batch and sell for close to cost. Can't pull my switches off the rack to get measurements.
     
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  14. Zervun

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    I agree - what fohdeesha has done is totally kick ass and it's terrible that some people have to ruin it for others. I've noticed the ebay prices hiking up a bit as I was looking at getting a backup switch which I'm guessing is due to people buying them to resell maybe? I doubt though that a ban would do much for these people are working the system to make a buck. They probably care less about a ban would be my guess especially if they already got away with it. It is too bad that there isn't a way to report them so that ebay would take action on them.
     
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    If STH is the place where people who purchase the ICX6000 series go for tips, the parent article could ask buyers from eBay or elsewhere to check with fohdeesha to confirm the licenses aren't from him. If the licenses came from him, buyers can then contest the transaction with eBay and they will almost always side with the purchaser.
     
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  16. Juggie

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    @fohdeesha Could also ask for ebay profile of any person who want's a license. It would be easy to see the switch purchase in the users history and provide an 'identity'. It's reasonable to expect some history on the profile as well, buying a switch should not be your first trip to ebay :) nor should the account be brand new. Can also exchange a PM on ebay to confirm sth and ebay accounts are same person, and finally in the purchase feedback, one could add 'sth' :)
     
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    Just a few thoughts from me:

    Are you allowed to sell switches with licenses when you upgrade to (an)other switch(es)?
    What would brocade say that fodeesha is giving away licenses?
     
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  18. fohdeesha

    fohdeesha Kaini Industries

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    Licenses I gave you for free? No, I don't want people making money off of a favor I did them. Deleting the licenses so you can sell it is a simple command

    It's now Ruckus and they don't give a shit, their current line of switches did away with licenses entirely because they were so tired of dealing with them
     
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  19. fohdeesha

    fohdeesha Kaini Industries

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    I'm already collecting FB and linkedin accounts (with a PM first to said account for verification), that's how I've been able to track down every person that's done this. More than half of them haven't been ebay either, they've been reddit (homelab sales)

    I know I could do a million other things to help prevent this from happening, but I just don't care enough. I already spend 30 to 45 minutes every single day replying to PMs here, if the solution to this problem is spending even more time, I'd much rather stop giving them out entirely
     
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    @fohdeesha - I think you've been too generous.

    You've said enough times that these licenses are for "existing" STH users, but I think even that is being abused.

    1. Give a license to a user only if they have been an STH user for...let's say 1 year.
    2. Limit the license(s) for a single user to no more than 1 or 2. (I understand how this works and how even this can be abused, but not everyone will be able to abuse it).
     
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