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Brocade ICX Series (cheap & powerful 10gbE/40gbE switching)

RandellH

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I think I got a bum switch from eBay. I got the ICX7250-48P. I noticed when I first powered on, the lights (right one) on port 3 and 8 are on, even with no plugged in. I went ahead and did a factory reset, load the latest firmware 0809d and verified the flash took, reboot multiple times.

I noticed no matter what, those lights remain on, and, ports 1-24 do not work. Nothing lights up when I plug a cable in any of those ports (except 3 and 8, they are always lit). If I plug into 25 thru 48, I get a light and I can ssh into the switch.

When using the HTTP interface, the monitor/front panel does not show ports 3/8 lit up, but shows 25 (the one I have plugged in) working. It seems like something is broken with the first 24 ports?

Any ideas?

Edit: I think it is a hardware problem. I get this 24x while booting:
BCM_ERR: while 'bcm_port_mdix_set' is Feature unavailable

First google hit was someone that had the error with another switch and it was a bad switch.

Edit 2:
I contacted Brocade about the warrant because their website says it has a warranty, but since I wasn't the original purchaser, they won't honor it.

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Thank you for your response.

Yes, you are correct the unit has warranty. To avail the warranty, you should be a registered user.

If you have purchased the device from Ruckus Authorized Re-Seller, kindly contact them to register your company account with Ruckus.

If the unit is not purchased from Ruckus Authorized Re-Seller, kindly contact Ruckus Sales Team to purchase the contract for assistance. You can contact Ruckus Sales Team by following the below link.
 
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fohdeesha

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You need to resolve the issue with the eBay seller, not Ruckus. With very few exceptions you will not get the support you typically expect from a manufacturer when buying through eBay. This is the reason why they're so inexpensive.
indeed, Ebay is really good about this and sides with the buyer rather quickly 99% of the time, you should get your money back fairly easily
 
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virulent

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In my opinion, if you want something robust, but don't want to be bothered, go buy something from Ubiquiti.

This route was pretty good in that it was much cheaper and there's definitely satisfaction in getting it to all work! YMMV.
To be fair, if you want to do the VLANs you need either a USG/UDM gateway or a router that can handle the cam's VLAN traffic. The ubiquiti "Pro" L3 switches claim to support L3 in all of their marketing material but have never actually worked to this day and it's been on sale for months. You still need a USG for inter-VLAN routing.

For the upfront hassle, totally. Everything can be on-device with a Brocade and the WAN router (which could be something super basic for a 12/1 link) isn't potentially overloaded with NVR (totally depends on # of cams).

But I mean, if cost is no concern, then just pairing a UDM or UDM-Pro with whatever Unifi PoE switches for the cams and calling it a day is wise, plus you can have easy and safe remote access. I'm just disappointed with UBNT's actions in the last few years as I phase out my Unifi gear.
 

psc

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I've got a 6610 which is not stacked, and I've removed the stack commands from the config. However, with brocade-branded 40G optics plugged in, and after running 'optical-monitor', if I try to look at them I get:

icx6610(config)#show optic 1/2/1
port 1/2/1 is a stacking port and not capable of digital optical monitoring.

If I plug it into one of the breakout ports, I get no output at all; exactly the same as with a Mellanox-branded 10G optic at the front.

Is this normal with the rear ports, or is there something else going on? The modules do show up as Vendor BROCADE with "show media validation".
 

dswartz

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I have my 2 7250-24 switches stacked and working fine. No reason to upgrade firmware right now, but I'm curious how one does that given how tightly coupled they are when running stacked. Do you have to break the stack? Or do you just upgrade the secondary partition and boot from that via the console? Is it even possible to access the secondary/backup switch via IP? I'm not sure how you would even do that, given there is one management IP?
 

shattered

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But I mean, if cost is no concern, then just pairing a UDM or UDM-Pro with whatever Unifi PoE switches for the cams and calling it a day is wise, plus you can have easy and safe remote access. I'm just disappointed with UBNT's actions in the last few years as I phase out my Unifi gear.

Hello,
cost is definitely a consideration.
I looked at ubnt gear and a usw-pro-24-poe (the only think that has atleast 15W power budget at each port simultaneously and at least 16+ ports) is a bit out of my budget.
I understand that a bit of oversubscription is ok on POE but I would rather have the extra power budget in order to accommodate future upgrades
On the other hand I found the review here for the CRS328-24P-4S+RM (mikrotik)
I can have a used icx (or something similar) shipped at around 220-250eur and a new mikrotik is about 330.
As I understand it, it should be adequate for my current needs and at least I have warranty for a while

In any case thank you for the reply/recommendation
 

fphillipeck

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I bought a FCX648S roughly 6 months ago to do basic dot1q tagged vlans and regret every minute of it, havnt been able to make it do anything Ive wanted it to do yet... save yourself the hassle
 

dswartz

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Another 7250-24 question: in the fastiron stacking guide it says that for the 10g ports, set-2 (1/2/5-1/2/8) support passive or active twinax cables, but set-1 (1/2/1-1/2/4) only support active. Yet, I took a spare passive twinax cable and connected 1/2/1 to 2/2/2 and the link came up. Is the documentation wrong, or does that limitation (somehow) only apply to stacking?

Port 1/2/1: Type : 10G Passive Twinax 1m (SFP+)
Port 2/2/2: Type : 10G Passive Twinax 1m (SFP+)

I'm planning on using the 4 remaining ports for LAGGs to the storage subnet on the 2 vsphere hosts in my lab, and I'd obviously rather not shell out $$$ for active cables, if I don't need to.
 
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ICXGURU

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I bought a FCX648S roughly 6 months ago to do basic dot1q tagged vlans and regret every minute of it, havnt been able to make it do anything Ive wanted it to do yet... save yourself the hassle
Why don't you tell us what the problem is and we can help you. It's really not that hard: create the vlan and tag or untag the ports. You could even do it from the web gui if CLI is really that hard.
 

ICXGURU

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Another 7250-24 question: in the fastiron stacking guide it says that for the 10g ports, set-2 (1/2/5-1/2/8) support passive or active twinax cables, but set-1 (1/2/1-1/2/4) only support active. Yet, I took a spare passive twinax cable and connected 1/2/1 to 2/2/2 and the link came up. Is the documentation wrong, or does that limitation (somehow) only apply to stacking?

Port 1/2/1: Type : 10G Passive Twinax 1m (SFP+)
Port 2/2/2: Type : 10G Passive Twinax 1m (SFP+)

I'm planning on using the 4 remaining ports for LAGGs to the storage subnet on the 2 vsphere hosts in my lab, and I'd obviously rather not shell out $$$ for active cables, if I don't need to.
Passive should work fine. It is recommended to stay with 1 or 3 meter but 5 should be ok. Anything longer will be a problem.
 

dswartz

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A brief rant about idiotic reviews on Amazon. My workspace at home has an unmanaged netgear 8-port switch. Vanilla PoE, so the yealink IP phone works fine, but the new ruckus r710 next to it steps down power unless I use a DC adapter. I decided to upgrade the switch, and the ICX7150-C12P seemed perfect. Except out of 8 ratings on Amazon, it had 3.5 stars. I looked at them. 3 1-star reviews, one of which the switch supposedly died after a year, and the other 2? Non-techies frustrated they couldn't figure out how to configure it. The worst I have seen? Someone ordered a brand-new ubiquiti switch and left a 1-star review because the seller shipped them a used d-link switch! WTF???
 
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nerdalertdk

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Hi guys

just joined the club with my icx7150-48zp. But it’s missing it’s ears,

where can I find rack mount cheap, I’m not giving 50$ bucks for two pieces of bent metal
 

ICXGURU

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A brief rant about idiotic reviews on Amazon. My workspace at home has an unmanaged netgear 8-port switch. Vanilla PoE, so the yealink IP phone works fine, but the new ruckus r710 next to it steps down power unless I use a DC adapter. I decided to upgrade the switch, and the ICX7150-C12P seemed perfect. Except out of 8 ratings on Amazon, it had 3.5 stars. I looked at them. 3 1-star reviews, one of which the switch supposedly died after a year, and the other 2? Non-techies frustrated they couldn't figure out how to configure it. The worst I have seen? Someone ordered a brand-new ubiquiti switch and left a 1-star review because the seller shipped them a used d-link switch! WTF???
Maybe that's ok since they are not authorized resellers so folks who buy these are not going to get a warranty. Not Amazon or Ruckus's fault but may still lead to angry customers after the fact.
 

RandellH

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So, the eBay seller was good, got my refund, and since they were quick about things, I went ahead and ordered the last one....and same problems. This time, it is only the POE led for port 21 that is stuck on, but same, 24 of those "BCM_ERR: while 'bcm_port_mdix_set' is Feature unavailable" errors on boot and plugging anything into ports 1 thru 24 does not activate a link, but plugging in ports 25 thru 48 will bring up a link.

This, after he said they tested all the ports.

I loaded SPR08080f firmware and factory set-default, just to be sure and that didn't change anything.

Am I doing something wrong, or is this just another bad switch that failed the same exact way? I figured I'd check here before I send yet another one back. I am now hesitant to get another 7250.

ICX7250-48P