Are all i9-9900t Engineering Samples or is it me?

[Alfa147x]

Hi - I am in the market for an i9-9900T for my HTPC to replace the existing high clock rate i3. But for my life, I can't find a non-Intel ES variation of this chip for sale.

Does anyone have any suggestions or explanations for why the market is flooded with these cheap ES chips?



My alternative is to go with an i9-9900K and downclock the CPU if heat is an issue.

 

[BlueFox]

Set your results to "US only" and you'll see retail ones.

 

[zac1]

You can also disclude terms by prefixing a hyphen, e.g. "i9-9900t -es -qs"

This also comes in handy when looking for non-non-ECC RAM. "ECC -non"

 

[RolloZ170]

i9-9900T only tray and discontinued

 

[Alfa147x]

Set your results to "US only" and you'll see retail ones.

Idk why but I totally missed this. Seems like a $100 premium for non-ES and domestic. Honestly that sounds fair

 

[Wasmachineman_NL]

Just get a 9900K and limit it to 65W in BIOS.

 

[Alfa147x]

Just get a 9900K and limit it to 65W in BIOS.

That's kinda what I'm leaning towards. Is there a disadvantage to having it bounce off the rev limiter (thermal throttle) vs using the power limiter in the bios?

 

[RolloZ170]

Is there a disadvantage to having it bounce off the rev limiter (thermal throttle) vs using the power limiter in the bios?

thermal throttle will not safe the system, its 90 degree or something.
and most tiny units do not start > TDP 35W. M720q will do but not 95W thought.
the problem is the CPU runs first at Baseclock without EIST, the TDP limit comes later.

 

[Alfa147x]

thermal throttle will not safe the system, its 90 degree or something.
and most tiny units do not start > TDP 35W. M720q will do but not 95W thought.
the problem is the CPU runs first at Baseclock without EIST, the TDP limit comes later.

Noted. I've got an i3 on a Gigabyte Z390 I AORUS PRO WIFI ITX board that I'm looking to upgrade. It's in a small ITX HTPC case

 

[RolloZ170]

Noted. I've got an i3 on a Gigabyte Z390 I AORUS PRO WIFI ITX board that I'm looking to upgrade. It's in a small ITX HTPC case

get any 8 core and disable turbo boost. then EIST will do the job to safe power, cores idle @800mhz.

 

[Wasmachineman_NL]

get any 8 core and disable turbo boost. then EIST will do the job to safe power, cores idle @800mhz.

This! Also, undervolting.

 

[Alfa147x]

get any 8 core and disable turbo boost. then EIST will do the job to safe power, cores idle @800mhz.

Sorry for continuing this thread but is there better "binning" on the T version of the CPU or any of these other 8 core options?

 

[RolloZ170]

Sorry for continuing this thread but is there better "binning" on the T version of the CPU

NO
bad( left from binning) silicon is used for 'T' models. they draw to much power at higher clocks.
'K' have better results in silicon lottery.

 

[Alfa147x]

NO
bad( left from binning) silicon is used for 'T' models. they draw to much power at higher clocks.
'K' have better results in silicon lottery.

That’s info I’m looking for! Thanks!