- Apr 18, 2011
Yes, I noticed. I was hoping more people would come back to this discussion... now that we have something to actually discuss.
gotta allocate them limited wafers alright :^)
So long as we can steer clear of delusions of personal persecution ... sighYes, I noticed. I was hoping more people would come back to this discussion... now that we have something to actually discuss.
I really expected a 3dcache version of threadripper after all the delays. I guess frontier is eating up a lot of wafers.gotta allocate them limited wafers alright :^)
Zen 3 on X370 boards is a interesting one, I still have a C6H monoblock spare... *looks up if it's compatible with the C6E*So long as we can steer clear of delusions of personal persecution ... sigh
I really expected a 3dcache version of threadripper after all the delays. I guess frontier is eating up a lot of wafers.
There is no telling if they will stay true and release a zen3 threadripper, it's just a matter of if/when they do, will it matter anymore.
Given they are releasing Zen2 chips for AM4 this month....and unlocking all AM4 for Zen3.
Using server as workstation is kinda rough. Lack the IO options.This might come off as seriously uninformed, but aside from using non-ECC RAM what's the big selling point of threadripper vs epyc? Easier overclocking, higher core clock speeds, lower price, and (maybe) cheaper motherboards also seem to be the selling points. But by that token, with a little bit of tinkering couldn't you build a dual-CPU epyc system using last gen processors, overclock them, and use low-density / high speed 3200MHz ECC RAM? Then RAM costs aren't obscenely different, processors are actually cheaper, overclocking becomes more difficult but still possible, and although you might spend a little more on a motherboard you also get two chips instead of one and all the extra features of a server board. What are these workstation workloads, do they require high core speed primarily while core count is useful but not as important? I dunno, I just look at threadripper and although it offers a price savings compared to high-end, brand new EPYC builds it doesn't seem anywhere near as affordable as tweaking some older epycs, especially if power efficiency isn't as large of a concern.
Wait, threadripper pro isn't overclockable? That's pretty bad. What are the IO limitations though? I thought they both had 8+ lanes of memory, 128 pcie lanes, etc. Some of it seemed kind of overkill for threadripper but I guess a carryover from re-badging server parts.Using server as workstation is kinda rough. Lack the IO options.
Threadripper pro is non overclockable, Threadripper is, and has much higher non-ecc clocked ram options for lower latency application requirements.
The problem isn't a change of priorities or a limitation of resources it is communication and clarity. Right now we don't know if there will ever be Zen3 on TRX40. There could be, it could be canceled, impossible to know without AMD's word.
It's much cheaper.but aside from using non-ECC RAM what's the big selling point of threadripper vs epyc
Is it though?It's much cheaper.
I wonder if TR Pro is part of the reason why we still have no workstation boards for Epyc. In my headcanon, that's one more reason why TR Pro sucksMotherboard lineup for TR PRO is different, there are no real workstation motherboards for EPYC, it's very server focused